Trip2018 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) I'm thinking of making a better bB music tracker, one that gives the 2600 4 voice channels (I already know how to make that possible ) but I don't know what software I could use to make a tracker (I google it and found nothing). Edited February 11, 2018 by Trip2018 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/275403-better-bb-music-tracker/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Why stop at 4? Why not go for 8 or 16? Whip something up with JavaScript or Just BASIC. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/275403-better-bb-music-tracker/#findComment-3958884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip2018 Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) Why stop at 4? Why not go for 8 or 16? Because if I try to add any extra channels with my method it would sound choppy Edited February 11, 2018 by Trip2018 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/275403-better-bb-music-tracker/#findComment-3958906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Stereo? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/275403-better-bb-music-tracker/#findComment-3958962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip2018 Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 Stereo? Every frame the 2600 will alternate between playing AUDF0+AUDF1 and AUDF2+AUDF3 etc. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/275403-better-bb-music-tracker/#findComment-3958982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Author Share Posted February 12, 2018 Does anyone know where I could get the audio? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/275403-better-bb-music-tracker/#findComment-3960289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Does anyone know where I could get the audio? This page uses real sounds from an Atari 2600, but it's just plain sounds, not the same as what you can do with a program running on an Atari 2600: randomterrain.com/atari-2600-memories-batari-basic-music-toy.html Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/275403-better-bb-music-tracker/#findComment-3960612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip2018 Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 (edited) This page uses real sounds from an Atari 2600, but it's just plain sounds, not the same as what you can do with a program running on an Atari 2600: randomterrain.com/atari-2600-memories-batari-basic-music-toy.html Thank you for the link but I changed my mind. I think i'll just wait till I get my harmony cart (I can't do Stella because my olds pc sound card might be fried). Sorry. Edited February 13, 2018 by Trip2018 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/275403-better-bb-music-tracker/#findComment-3961435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Your project and your needs. That being said, I'd rather have a "mario paint" interface that produces the same batari BASIC music code as what VisualbB does right now. Editing music in VisualbB is horrible (and yet the very best available.) No need to reinvent the wheel when you can build upon what everyone uses already. More features that use more precious CPU time don't really get me excited. Easy composition rocks my world. My opinion Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/275403-better-bb-music-tracker/#findComment-3963433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip2018 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) Your project and your needs. That being said, I'd rather have a "mario paint" interface that produces the same batari BASIC music code as what VisualbB does right now. Editing music in VisualbB is horrible (and yet the very best available.) No need to reinvent the wheel when you can build upon what everyone uses already. More features that use more precious CPU time don't really get me excited. Easy composition rocks my world. My opinion Mario piant style is a great idea, but if I did try somthing like that I would probably have to switch from just basic to something better (Not java). Edited February 16, 2018 by Trip2018 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/275403-better-bb-music-tracker/#findComment-3963980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip2018 Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) This software is still in development but has moved to visual basic. Edited November 14, 2018 by Trip2018 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/275403-better-bb-music-tracker/#findComment-3982206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip2018 Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) Getting some progress Edited November 19, 2018 by Trip2018 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/275403-better-bb-music-tracker/#findComment-4157163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillapojkenpåön Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Awesome, I want to try it! 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/275403-better-bb-music-tracker/#findComment-4157646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip2018 Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) Awesome, I want to try it! Well release date might be comming up soon, I just need to try to make bB a built in software for those who just want it for it's four channel stereo, and make a basic mode for those who like the to stick with two channel limitations. Edited November 16, 2018 by Trip2018 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/275403-better-bb-music-tracker/#findComment-4157663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iesposta Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Well release date might be comming up soon, I just need to try make bB a built in software for those who just want it for it's four channel stereo, and make a basic mode for those who like the to stick with two channel limitations. Can you post any music binary using your 4 channel technique? Will it play 4 sounds at the same time, or is the 2 extra channels for doing percussion and effects fitting in between notes? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/275403-better-bb-music-tracker/#findComment-4158552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip2018 Posted November 16, 2018 Author Share Posted November 16, 2018 Can you post any music binary using your 4 channel technique? Will it play 4 sounds at the same time, or is the 2 extra channels for doing percussion and effects fitting in between notes? Yeah I'm going to try to get a demo rom out soon. It will play 4 notes (sort of) at the same time (Two sounds every other frame). There is a catch though, it take about 14 to 18 variables (18 only if used with sdata). Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/275403-better-bb-music-tracker/#findComment-4158632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Yeah I'm going to try to get a demo rom out soon. It will play 4 notes (sort of) at the same time (Two sounds every other frame). There is a catch though, it take about 14 to 18 variables (18 only if used with sdata). Sounds good for a title screen. I'm not sure if it will butt heads with space needed for playfield data and sprites. bB programmers will have to find out A single channel low CPU usage version would be amazing for in-game background music. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/275403-better-bb-music-tracker/#findComment-4159321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip2018 Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share Posted November 17, 2018 Sounds good for a title screen. I'm not sure if it will butt heads with space needed for playfield data and sprites. bB programmers will have to find out A single channel low CPU usage version would be amazing for in-game background music. You mean almost like how the multisprite kernel does it (using one channel to simulate two)? If that's the case it'll probably cost 8 (9 on sdata) variables. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/275403-better-bb-music-tracker/#findComment-4159366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 You mean almost like how the multisprite kernel does it (using one channel to simulate two)? If that's the case it'll probably cost 8 (9 on sdata) variables. Ideally something that uses one hardware channel for one tone. The DATA statement could just hold the frequency of a single note. Bonus points if the music engine is smart enough to pick the closest tone that 2600 can actually generate Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/275403-better-bb-music-tracker/#findComment-4161228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip2018 Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share Posted November 27, 2018 Ideally something that uses one hardware channel for one tone. The DATA statement could just hold the frequency of a single note. Bonus points if the music engine is smart enough to pick the closest tone that 2600 can actually generate It's accually based of randomterains bB music engine. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/275403-better-bb-music-tracker/#findComment-4165071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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