+-^CrossBow^- Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I'm impressed with the results on my model 2 Genesis. Better than the s-video modded system I used to have. Anybody have any experience using these with the non tmss model 1? Are jailbars still an issue? Yes jailbars are present on both a JPN va3 and a US va2 model 1 units. I ended up cutting the trace off the subcarrier to reduce them by quite a bit and then installed a button on the back to turn the subcarrier on and off as needed. S-video and composite still need the subcarrier. But to answer the question, yes. In fact the jail bars were more pronounced when I went with these cables. My s-video had them, but they were much more faint and not noticeable except on certain backgrounds etc. With these HDretrovision cables, you could see them practically all the the time hence my cutting of the subcarrier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Ragan Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 How would you mod a Sega Genesis for component, anyway? I know it outputs an RGB signal but I'm not sure how you would convert that to component. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaserCat Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 https://wavebeam.blogspot.com/2016/09/hardware-review-shinybow-sb-2840-rgb-to.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzie.P Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I picked up cables for Genesis and SNES and having some issues. For clarity, they look amazing. However, they both shift the screen to the left quite a bit, cutting off a bit of signal. Tried on multiple tvs (CRT and HD) all with the same result. Other devices with Component do not have this issue (PS2, DVD Player, Wii, XBox) Any suggestions for a fix? Bad cables? Just out of luck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepdreamin Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I know it outputs an RGB signal but I'm not sure how you would convert that to component. You use the HD retro vision cables, that's how. All they are is a well designed external RGB to Component converter. In the past, people put larger converter boards inside consoles. Something like the JROK, which has been around forever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepthaw Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 How well do these work on CRTs? Picked up a circa 2003 Trinitron with component inputs, and I'm looking at whether it's worth the extra cost vs. going for s-video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeeperofLindblum Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 (edited) How well do these work on CRTs? Picked up a circa 2003 Trinitron with component inputs, and I'm looking at whether it's worth the extra cost vs. going for s-video. Looks like they work great, but I'm unsure how large a difference you'll see. I took the following question and answer from their FAQ. My TV has component video inputs, but it's not an HDTV. Will the cables still work? Absolutely. An HDTV is not required to experience the clarity provided by our cables. In fact, many users are thrilled with the quality experienced on their standard definition CRT TVs which have YPbPr inputs. I've added the link to this as well! https://www.hdretrovision.com/faq/ Also happy to report that they are still very much in stock! Edited April 6, 2018 by KeeperofLindblum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj_convoy Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I've bought them exclusively for use on my early 2000s crt. SNES, Master System and Genesis really benefit from them. Saturn less so compared to S video, but still really nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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