dj_convoy Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Not a huge deal, but just a brief question... is there an upgrade path for those of us who already have the SGM? Like I say, not a huge deal... I'm not interested enough to buy a whole new version of the SGM, but if there's a cheap way to add the Pro functionality to my already existing unit, I'd be okay with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ten-four Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Not a huge deal, but just a brief question... is there an upgrade path for those of us who already have the SGM? Like I say, not a huge deal... I'm not interested enough to buy a whole new version of the SGM, but if there's a cheap way to add the Pro functionality to my already existing unit, I'd be okay with that. Hi dj_convoy. As I understand can you not upgrade the Opcode Games Super Game Module. SGM Pro is a whole new design, and there will be added a custom sound chip that can produce any sound you like to a given ColecoVision game. So if there is a digital speech or sound in a converted game, SGM Pro can reproduce this sound. As I understand will a large part of the new upcoming ColecoVision premium games have this function. DKA, PMC DX, Gradius DX and so on. So If you want this feature in you further ColecoVision game, will you have to invest in this SGM Pro. If you don't want this extra sound feature, will these new ColecoVision DX games still work with your ordinary SGM module. Your sound experience will be bigger with the new SGM Pro. Just hope this will be added for CollectorVision Phoenix Video Game System. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opcode Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Yeah, it's definetely been a trying couple years for you especially considering the whole Cardillo hoopla. No one needs to deal with the BS, any of it, when this is a hobby and an investment of ones own time and money. Re. the SGM Pro boxes that have the Coleco logo on it... couldn't you just add a non-removable sticker to it. I know it wouldn't bother me and i'm sure most would be agreeable to this in order to save further expense and time in your part Anyway, glad to hear (pun) the SGM Pro is back on and a decisiin re. the prometheus Lite was made for you due to the Phoenix without further expense to you. I had the cv logo on the front, size and back of the boxes, so patching it with sticker would look terrible. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcade124 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Ok, here is something. Hope it is a reasonable solution for everybody. Let’s wait another 6 months and if things with the Pro aren’t clearly sorted out by then (I.e. we have a clear timeline for the OMNIvox sound chip) then I will go ahead and release DKA as it is. Does that sound reasonable? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Certainly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I had the cv logo on the front, size and back of the boxes, so patching it with sticker would look terrible. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I don't think it would look bad at all. Lots of company's did exactly this back in the day. No point in wasting what you already have invested in the project. If anyone doesn't like the patch over on the boxes they don't have to buy one. I personally look at it as a nice "screw you" to the Cadeleco\RWBing jerks showing that the community will keep on going with or without the name they are only sitting on to exploit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q*bertkid Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Ok, here is something. Hope it is a reasonable solution for everybody. Let’s wait another 6 months and if things with the Pro aren’t clearly sorted out by then (I.e. we have a clear timeline for the OMNIvox sound chip) then I will go ahead and release DKA as it is. Does that sound reasonable? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk a few questions here 1. You said you were going to implement some coding and graphic changes to DKA does that mean you will do the same thing to Pac-Man as well? ( not that there is anything wrong with it, in my opinion its still the best colecovision homebrew ever made) 2. If everything goes well with the Pro how long before we can buy one? 3. How many games do you plan to make for the Pro in the next 5 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opcode Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 a few questions here 1. You said you were going to implement some coding and graphic changes to DKA does that mean you will do the same thing to Pac-Man as well? ( not that there is anything wrong with it, in my opinion its still the best colecovision homebrew ever made) 2. If everything goes well with the Pro how long before we can buy one? 3. How many games do you plan to make for the Pro in the next 5 years? Hi! 1. Pac-Man already got its graphic improvements last year. New sprite mode, improved Ms Pac Man mazes mostly. Minor stuff. 2. I was told February for the new sound chip. After that we need to test the chip and PCB. Good news is that we have packaging templates and other stuff that are usually time consuming. 3. That is hard to answer. Next year plans are for DKA, Pac-Man DX and Gradius DX. They are all mostly done gameplay wise, needing the new sound stuff (which was done at a point but for the old SGM Pro chip). Gradius DX should be the showcaser, with much improved soundtrack, sound effects and voices ("destroy them all!", power up names, etc). They will all work with the regular SGM. Perhaps next would be Castlevania... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIAD Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 I had the cv logo on the front, size and back of the boxes, so patching it with sticker would look terrible. The community knows all too well that you are a perfectionist and we appreciate the heck out of that! Why not start a new poll thread to see what everyone's opinion is on the matter of adding stickers to the boxes you have already had made? I think you know most would be agreeable to the addition of stickers to the boxes so that they don't go to waste and then if there are further runs made, there will be a redesigned box style which means another variation for collectors to purchase. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chart45 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 put 1 2 3 4 5 stickers on the box i dont care i want dk... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 put 1 2 3 4 5 stickers on the box i dont care i want dk... I like this set, I use them for all my Atari boxes, which I think are woefully lacking in sticker bling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 I like this set, I use them for all my Atari boxes, which I think are woefully lacking in sticker bling ??? Sticker bling! Nice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Those are nice stickers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Phruby Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Put stickers on the boxes. Then I can take them off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLic0ne t0aD Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 I don't mind stickers at all. I'd love to play DK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
128Kgames Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Btw, DK status has been discussed some other thread. Waiting for our new custom sound chip to get ready so we can release the SGM Pro. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Let me explain why things are the way they are: Back in late 2015, I was back, I shipped the SGM 2nd run, and I planned for 2016. We planned something like this: First half 2016: Penguin, Gradius and SGM 3rd run Second half: DK, Pac-Man and SGM Pro In fact, boxes for DK and PM DX were printed with the SGM PRO support logo on it. We felt behind schedule with everything during the year, so we decided not to release Pro in 2016. Around the end of that year the idea for the new console come back, but we were still going to release the Pro later in 2017, so I had time to finish DKA and PM DX to release with it. Then Cardillo struck. In the process I lost a lot of investment, including 300 Pro boxes that had been printed with the CV logo. I will be honest with you, the whole Cardillo thing took a toll on me. Really lost the drive for anything for a while. So we floated between an Intellivision module, a new Coleco compatible console. With the new console and considering the Pro high costs because of the way we were doing it, it seemed logical to cancel the pro and go with the console. Until we got into a race. In the meantime I am delaying and delaying DKA and PM DX, waiting for the sound solution. Then, earlier this year, the exact week we had the Intellivision module up and running, Intellivision announces they were planning a new console. So now we had two active trademark owners on both CV and Intellivision fronts and that is when I took the courage to make the decision to go with my own console. And just recently the Phoenix made it clear there is no space for two CV compatible consoles (considering the costs and investment involved), so I don’t regret the decision. DKA and PM DX are still on hold waiting though, so we resumed work on the Pro, the old original Pro, until something happened after RWX in September. The interest for OMNI was clearly there, and well, it isn’t everyday you get to work with Ted Mayer, Ed Averett, Rob Fulop and others, so we thought that OMNI deserved more. Gone was the off the shelf chipset, replaced by a custom chipset. It happens that the OMNI sound chip, the omnivox, is perfect for the Pro, and less expensive than the off the shelf solution we had before. So we now can have the Pro at about the same price as the regular SGM. There you have it, the full story. And yes, DKA and PM DX and Gradius DX will all work just fine with the regular SGM but will offer much improved sound with the Pro. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk So I'm not subscribed to this thread as it was just a poll so I missed these posts, not even sure how I stumbled upon it today but I've been spending time with my Arcade1Up machines lately so maybe I'm out of the loop. Anyway so I'm at the latest post and going "is this April Fools?" 'cause this has to be some kind of joke, right? SGM Pro again? Really? I'm sorry man, and you know I've been a supporter since Space Invaders Collection and sure as hell am not a troll, but I think its time for me to tap out on this one. I've gotten the first run SGM, rode along waiting for DKA and any other SGM games, stuck with this when you were going to make a clear shell for the SGM the said "no" then released some protos years later for crazy $$$ on eBay to raise funds for another project. Then you were making a Pro at some point, then cancelled it, said you weren't going to make it, moved on, came out with some more runs with the new packaging and the "smoked" shell and like an idiot I picked one up and got rid of one of my first run SGM's cause who needs three of them, am I right? All the while waiting and waiting and waiting for DKA, not giving up when you said we'd need the SGM Pro to play it, then we wouldn't when you cancelled it, then you moved onto an entirely new retro console that wouldn't play ColecoVision games then yet another that would, and DKA was going to be out by Christmas cause you said it would. Now we're back to the SGM being back on, DKA needed it again for whatever reason, and you're going to do this along with two other consoles and develop games all the while? I'm sorry man but its all been just a little too much for me at this point. I wish you the best I really do but I'm gonna stick with my 3/4 arcade games for now and leave this one by the side of the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opcode Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 You don't need the SGM Pro to play DKA. I never ever said you needed. It will run just fine (as in fact it already does) on a regular SGM. And there is no "two other consoles", there is just one, OMNI. But OMNI is being done on a very different level, where possibly I won't be the main programmer and will only coordinate things. And since we are talking DKA, I am glad to announce Grazi is back and will be taking care again of most Opcode related stuff while I use some of my time to put together the OMNi team and brand. I am sure she will come here to announce some exciting stuff soon. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
128Kgames Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 You don't need the SGM Pro to play DKA. I never ever said you needed. It will run just fine (as in fact it already does) on a regular SGM. There you have it, the full story. And yes, DKA and PM DX and Gradius DX will all work just fine with the regular SGM but will offer much improved sound with the Pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opcode Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 What exactly you don’t understand about the two statements above? You seem to imply they are somehow conflicting. On both I am saying games will run just fine no matter what version of the sgm you have, but you get improved, closer to arcade sound with the Pro. Those who have been around since before the sgm was released, circa 2010, know that I looked for pcm/adpcm sound solution for a couple of years. Unfortunately I couldn’t find one back then. I eventually found something in 2016, but it wasn’t cheap. Now with OMNI I have the chance to use a custom solution that is everything I have always wished, for about the same price. Again, you don’t have to buy it. And you don’t have to like it either. And in fact as I indicated above it could never happen if the timing isn’t right, or could happen after DKA. We will know soon. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
128Kgames Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 What exactly you don’t understand about the two statements above? You seem to imply they are somehow conflicting. On both I am saying games will run just fine no matter what version of the sgm you have, but you get improved, closer to arcade sound with the Pro. Those who have been around since before the sgm was released, circa 2010, know that I looked for pcm/adpcm sound solution for a couple of years. Unfortunately I couldn’t find one back then. I eventually found something in 2016, but it wasn’t cheap. Now with OMNI I have the chance to use a custom solution that is everything I have always wished, for about the same price. Again, you don’t have to buy it. And you don’t have to like it either. And in fact as I indicated above it could never happen if the timing isn’t right, or could happen after DKA. We will know soon. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Eduardo I understand the two statement perfectly. And I've been around here since 2004, and I remember it all. And like I said, I wish you luck, I really do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraziGamer Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 ... And since we are talking DKA, I am glad to announce Grazi is back and will be taking care again of most Opcode related stuff while I use some of my time to put together the OMNi team and brand. I am sure she will come here to announce some exciting stuff soon. http://atariage.com/forums/topic/248924-opcode-general-announcements/?p=4181798 Please check this link out and I hope you guys enjoy the news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLogname Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Ok, here is something. Hope it is a reasonable solution for everybody. Let’s wait another 6 months and if things with the Pro aren’t clearly sorted out by then (I.e. we have a clear timeline for the OMNIvox sound chip) then I will go ahead and release DKA as it is. Does that sound reasonable? Obviously that's not a binding commitment or anything, but... six months have come and gone now. Is everything sorted? And if not, dare we dream...? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusFrom1982 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Obviously that's not a binding commitment or anything, but... six months have come and gone now. Is everything sorted? And if not, dare we dream...? You can always dream lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymiester Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I started waiting for DKA to come out when # still ment pound. Now it's hashtag and I'm still waiting...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoonman Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Bump..Any news on Opcode's DK release? I haven't seen an announcement on their forum in nearly an entire year. My guess is that it can't be released due to Nintendo's strict policy's on their first party IPs. They are very protective of them, especially Donkey Kong, which just celebrated it's 25th Anniversary of the DK Country series. The Switch also saw an ACA release of Donkey Kong from Hamster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opcode Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Bump..Any news on Opcode's DK release? I haven't seen an announcement on their forum in nearly an entire year. My guess is that it can't be released due to Nintendo's strict policy's on their first party IPs. They are very protective of them, especially Donkey Kong, which just celebrated it's 25th Anniversary of the DK Country series. The Switch also saw an ACA release of Donkey Kong from Hamster. You are correct. Now working on Crazy Monkey. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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