+jedimatt42 Posted May 11 Author Share Posted May 11 I rummaged around in the xc3sprog code last night a bit. It looks like the prog_freq is set via -J for all cable types, but I couldn't see evidence that the sysfs gpio creator used the value. ( I was looking at : https://github.com/matrix-io/xc3sprog ) It has been years now, but I feel like the wires I used from the PI were about 20cm long. The fact that you cannot read consistently speaks to that. I know you've tested for continuity, but I have experienced a failure there that passes continuity checking, as the act of probing the CPLD pin would cause contact with the board. If you don't have a microscope, you can probably take a closeup with a modern phone and then zoom in to observe if contact is solid and clean. For this reason, I usually clean off the no-clean flux, so it is easier to see the solder joints. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/277635-tipi-usage-and-support/page/104/#findComment-5464636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabrizio Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 On 8/21/2022 at 1:19 AM, InsaneMultitasker said: I finally got around to installing the JTAG header on my 2nd TIPI card so that I could update its CPLD. @jedimatt42 when I enter the 'curl' command from the wiki, the response is 'no valid openPGP data found. (I used my RPI to update the first card's CPLD in 2020, however, I reformatted the SD card back then and didn't reinstall xc3sprog at that time.) How should I move forward and are there any wiki steps in need of any refreshing? Thank you for your help. --- tipi@tipi:~ $ curl https://apt.matrix.one/doc/apt-key.gpg | sudo apt-key add - % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 0 gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. tipi@tipi:~ $ --- Wiki steps: CPLD Programming With PI · jedimatt42/tipi Wiki · GitHub Hi everyone, we are trying to program the cpld with rP0 but we too have this error, are there any updates? thanks to those who reply Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/277635-tipi-usage-and-support/page/104/#findComment-5464909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jedimatt42 Posted May 12 Author Share Posted May 12 The wiki was updated the day after InsaneMultitasker's post. The wiki describes the procedure that last worked for me. The issue described by TimC on this thread's previous page does not yet indicate a problem with the process on the wiki. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/277635-tipi-usage-and-support/page/104/#findComment-5465060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabrizio Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 14 hours ago, jedimatt42 said: The wiki was updated the day after InsaneMultitasker's post. The wiki describes the procedure that last worked for me. The issue described by TimC on this thread's previous page does not yet indicate a problem with the process on the wiki. thanks for the reply, I'm doing some tests starting from an RP0 W, when I give the first command curl https://apt.matrix.one/doc/apt-key.gpg I get the error curl: (7) Failed to connect to apt.matrix.one port 443: Connection refused the site is not reachable Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/277635-tipi-usage-and-support/page/104/#findComment-5465416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jedimatt42 Posted May 13 Author Share Posted May 13 My instructions are to download the pre-compiled xc3sprog binary from my website. Instead of depending on the no longer maintained apt repository from matrix.one. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/277635-tipi-usage-and-support/page/104/#findComment-5465423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabrizio Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 49 minutes ago, jedimatt42 said: Le mie istruzioni sono di scaricare il binario xc3sprog precompilato dal mio sito web. Invece di dipendere dal repository apt non più mantenuto di Matrix.one. Italian coffe paid ! 😂 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/277635-tipi-usage-and-support/page/104/#findComment-5465437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyDean Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 8 hours ago, jedimatt42 said: My instructions are to download the pre-compiled xc3sprog binary from my website. Instead of depending on the no longer maintained apt repository from matrix.one. Ah, that's why I was having trouble too, more than likely. I'll look for that xc3sprog soon. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/277635-tipi-usage-and-support/page/104/#findComment-5465548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jedimatt42 Posted May 13 Author Share Posted May 13 https://github.com/jedimatt42/tipi/wiki/CPLD-Programming-With-PI#installing-xc3sprog It seems like some of you all are using some sort of ancient archive of the wiki or some third-party docs... If that is the case, I would recommend throwing them out. The wiki changes along side most updates to the TIPI software. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/277635-tipi-usage-and-support/page/104/#findComment-5465558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabrizio Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 29 minutes ago, RickyDean said: Ah, ecco perché anch'io avevo problemi, molto probabilmente. Cercherò presto quell'xc3sprog. here is the link, I apologize for searching the forum and not finding JediMatt's answer before.. https://github.com/jedimatt42/tipi/wiki/CPLD-Programming-With-PI 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/277635-tipi-usage-and-support/page/104/#findComment-5465560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabrizio Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 3 hours ago, jedimatt42 said: https://github.com/jedimatt42/tipi/wiki/CPLD-Programming-With-PI#installing-xc3sprog It seems like some of you all are using some sort of ancient archive of the wiki or some third-party docs... If that is the case, I would recommend throwing them out. The wiki changes along side most updates to the TIPI software. Command -> sudo /home/tipi/xc3sprog/build/xc3sprog -c sysfsgpio_creator Answer -> /home/tipi/xc3sprog/build/xc3sprog: error while loading shared libraries: libftdi.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory It seems that this library is missing, or am I wrong? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/277635-tipi-usage-and-support/page/104/#findComment-5465664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jedimatt42 Posted May 13 Author Share Posted May 13 (edited) There we go, a missing step (in the docs). Try: sudo apt install libftdi libftdi1 Edited May 14 by jedimatt42 was wrong... and revised comment to clarify my intention 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/277635-tipi-usage-and-support/page/104/#findComment-5465795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyDean Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 2 hours ago, jedimatt42 said: There we go, a missing step. Try: sudo apt install libftdi I will say in his defense that step is not on the page, https://github.com/jedimatt42/tipi/wiki/CPLD-Programming-With-PI I also had the same issue. I'll try again at another point, but am reading and saving all these Tipi Support pages for future reference. My evening time usage of the internet will be somewhat curtailed by the fact that it is my son's Internet and he, after work needs to have full access to do his night schooling for his paralegal course. At least till around 10:30-11pm. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/277635-tipi-usage-and-support/page/104/#findComment-5465905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jedimatt42 Posted May 14 Author Share Posted May 14 Yeah, I'm not in a position to test at the time of my reply, or today for that matter. And I did not try to imply that was on the wiki. But the previous errors being shown to me were only achievable from a 2 year outdated wiki page. Now we know that the current page is wrong too, and will soon be outdated. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/277635-tipi-usage-and-support/page/104/#findComment-5465959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 I am thinking my issue is that my CPLD is not blank. I read a post where xc3sprog has an issue erasing a chip sometimes. I will try with an actual Xilinx programmer I found on Amazon unless someone has a better example and try to get that going. Thanks for your help! I will also check the cable lengths and my soldering job and report back my progress. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/277635-tipi-usage-and-support/page/104/#findComment-5465966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jedimatt42 Posted May 14 Author Share Posted May 14 I misread the internet... the command to try, for installing the libftdi requirement of xc3sprog, is : sudo apt install libftdi1 ( a '1' one at the end of the package name ) 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/277635-tipi-usage-and-support/page/104/#findComment-5465972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabrizio Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 3 hours ago, jedimatt42 said: Ho letto male Internet... il comando da provare, per installare il requisito libftdi di xc3sprog, è: sudo apt install libftdi1 (un "1" alla fine del nome del pacchetto) after installing libftd1 command sudo /home/tipi/xc3sprog/build/xc3sprog -c sysfsgpio_creator answer /home/tipi/xc3sprog/build/xc3sprog: error while loading shared libraries: libwiringPiDev.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/277635-tipi-usage-and-support/page/104/#findComment-5466052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBoy Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 libwiringPiDev.so is missing, try "sudo apt-get install wiringpi" Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/277635-tipi-usage-and-support/page/104/#findComment-5466131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jedimatt42 Posted May 14 Author Share Posted May 14 The wiringpi library went away in Bullseye version of Raspberry PI OS. I would guess you have to be using an old Buster based OS. I get that TimC is programming the CPLD for an initial build. But the last update was 5 years ago and only useful for Geneve users. If you Geneve users are all lagging behind 3-5 years, maybe I should (as an act of kindness, as I don't support the Geneve) craft a buster image with the tool and libraries pre-installed. There is a starting point all the way at the bottom of my downloads page... That image might even have the tool pre-installed, I know I did that at least once. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/277635-tipi-usage-and-support/page/104/#findComment-5466232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabrizio Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) On 5/14/2024 at 10:34 AM, CosmicBoy said: libwiringPiDev.so is missing, try "sudo apt-get install wiringpi" cant find the package. well, finally now we can connect the 95144. what have I done so far donwoloaded img https://jedimatt42.com/downloads( tipi-sdimage-buster-2.37.zip ) wget https://jedimatt42.com/downloads/xc3sprog_buster.zip unzip xc3sprog_buster.zip sudo apt install libftdi1 wget https://www.jedimatt42.com/downloads/tipi_cpld.zip unzip tipi_cpld.zip sudo /home/tipi/xc3sprog/build/xc3sprog -c sysfsgpio_creator chain not found Let's try/program this Chinese 95144 chip shi........t. see you soon and thank you Edited May 15 by fabrizio news 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/277635-tipi-usage-and-support/page/104/#findComment-5466845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jedimatt42 Posted May 15 Author Share Posted May 15 That does not look like the chip will be properly powered in that socket. And if you could please edit/delete that last nationally derogatory sentence, I would appreciate it. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/277635-tipi-usage-and-support/page/104/#findComment-5466894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyDean Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) 8 hours ago, fabrizio said: cant find the package. well, finally now we can connect the 95144. what have I done so far donwoloaded img https://jedimatt42.com/downloads( tipi-sdimage-buster-2.37.zip ) wget https://jedimatt42.com/downloads/xc3sprog_buster.zip unzip xc3sprog_buster.zip sudo apt install libftdi1 wget https://www.jedimatt42.com/downloads/tipi_cpld.zip unzip tipi_cpld.zip sudo /home/tipi/xc3sprog/build/xc3sprog -c sysfsgpio_creator chain not found Let's try/program this Chinese 95144 chip shi........t. see you soon and thank you @fabrizio I have made it to this point, but cannot get past this. Does it mean that I have a Chinese fake? apparently it seems not to be empty, not blank, is there a way to erase it while mounted on the tipi? Now this is the first one, I just tried a second one and it programmed just fine. I'll try the other 3. Well after trying the other 3, I have one that took the program, 4 that did not same messages as below. Edited May 15 by RickyDean added content 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/277635-tipi-usage-and-support/page/104/#findComment-5467134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyDean Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) Can anyone tell me if I can use the Xilinix 14.7 package to erase the XC95144 chip and if so will a Diligent USB jtag cable be sufficient? I have the software and can order the cable from Mouser for 64.00. I did get one of these to program but the other 4 just display the same info as the above pictures. I have 10 full size tipi cards coming and feel that I'll have the same issues when they get here. Edited May 15 by RickyDean spelling Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/277635-tipi-usage-and-support/page/104/#findComment-5467173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyDean Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 The one tipi/32k sidecar that did program, doesn't work with the installed 32k. So I get a green screen then a memory full condition and then some random odd characters on the screen and it stops. So I placed my sidecar SAMs on the end and when I initiate call tipi the configuration screen loads up. So at least this one sidecar has a malfunctioning ram chip, maybe. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/277635-tipi-usage-and-support/page/104/#findComment-5467261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabrizio Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 16 hours ago, jedimatt42 said: That does not look like the chip will be properly powered in that socket. And if you could please edit/delete that last nationally derogatory sentence, I would appreciate it. it works well I tried various cplds that I couldn't program directly on the FG99. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/277635-tipi-usage-and-support/page/104/#findComment-5467372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabrizio Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 7 hours ago, RickyDean said: The one tipi/32k sidecar that did program, doesn't work with the installed 32k. So I get a green screen then a memory full condition and then some random odd characters on the screen and it stops. So I placed my sidecar SAMs on the end and when I initiate call tipi the configuration screen loads up. So at least this one sidecar has a malfunctioning ram chip, maybe. hi, I finally programmed the cpld with the tipi_cpld.zip version, the programming information corresponds to the document. I tried with the tipi_cpld.zip-V3 version from the Jedimatt website, it doesn't download, then I tried from gitHub, I tried to program the cpld but it gives me a "segment error" while if I try again to use the tipi_cpld.zip version it works. Well I put the RAM, eprom, sd, after a few seconds of loading from the call tipi command the Memory Full error comes out with various characters on the screen. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/277635-tipi-usage-and-support/page/104/#findComment-5467373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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