MrFSL Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 hour ago, DjayBee said: From what I gather both carts work very well for cartdrige images and XEX files. SIDE 3 together with a U1MB extends this to all types of disk images and both are a perfect match. With U1MB's PBI-BIOS you have transparent high-speed SIO and can use hard disk images as well. And Jon's UI is really outstanding. On the other hand without a U1MB, SIDE 3 has a lower compatibilty in loading ATR images because it always needs an on-the-fly patched OS to load them. AVG without any of its "extension cables" works pretty much the same: cartdriges and XEXs are good but low compatibility with ATRs. Paired with its cables it shines. I own an AVG with the SIO cable and since then rarely use my SIO2SD oder SDriveMax because my AVG is always plugged into my Atari. It loads every ATR or ATX I feed it without any problems because they load through SIO just like with any real disk drive. Only high-speed SIO depends on an OS which supports it and thus lessens its compatibilty compared to the pair SIDE3+U1MB. If you add an PBI/ECI cable you even have a 512KB RAM extension and from what I gather, it can also use a PBI-BIOS and its high-speed SIO features. You pretty much nailed it. The AVG with its cables can move from machine to machine and none of the components are soldered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
as... Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 16 hours ago, mimo said: It depends what you want from a cartridge, but I would say that AVG or Side 3 are the best options at the moment I use ide plus (rev.d for rapidus) with the side#1 . From side also ide plus is not possible to load overmind, totaldase and etc. (for sio especially). But from AVG is working like from sio2sd Edited April 30, 2022 by as... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 On 4/30/2022 at 11:00 AM, Mclaneinc said: You can't beat Jon's interface, although I imagine by now that Jon hates it On the contrary - I love it more and more with each passing day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 You can quote common prose all ya like, we know the score Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGeezer Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Received my new AVG Cart along with the two connectors for my old cart Thanks again @tmp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricky Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Also received a few days ago, it's really great to enjoy games requiring more than 128KB on a stock machine. Something strange is happening to me, I have one of my 130XE which does not respond well when I do the key combinations for the AVGCART settings, I have to investigate further by testing on another 130XE. Otherwise on one of my 800XL it works very well! The AVGCART, the ultimate cartridge to have absolutely! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Mechanic Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 On 4/28/2022 at 10:45 PM, lewiS said: I still have a stock: https://retrolemon.co.uk/search?controller=search&poscats=0&s=avgcart Received my AVGCart along with ECI and SIO cables today… thanks! Now I just need to find a source for an XL PBI cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irich2 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 @tmp PM sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firebottle Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 After seeing "out of stock" on the website, found this thread and... oops... late to the party... What part(s) aren't available to make new AVG carts? Didn't know until recently this had evolved into something similar to the 1541 Ultimate cart for the C64. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmp Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=391280652952237&id=100320802048225 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 That's really good to hear! Hope it works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari_bbs_fan Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 31 minutes ago, tmp said: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=391280652952237&id=100320802048225 Hey TMP, With the new design using an easier-to-source FPGA, does this get you a bigger FPGA with more resources to do more things Putting it another way, will this new board obsolete our previous AVG carts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmp Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 9 hours ago, Atari_bbs_fan said: Hey TMP, With the new design using an easier-to-source FPGA, does this get you a bigger FPGA with more resources to do more things Putting it another way, will this new board obsolete our previous AVG carts? my current plan is to keep feature parity for both revisions 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxl Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 5 hours ago, tmp said: my current plan is to keep feature parity for both revisions hell, and I was counting on an external Covox or AY / YM with the AudioIN output connected or at least a mathematical operations coprocessor ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndary Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 22 hours ago, tmp said: my current plan is to keep feature parity for both revisions Hi TMP, would you consider designing the pcb to fit into a standard XE cartridge shell? to fit better inside an ATARI 1200XL or ATARI 800? Nir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmp Posted June 14, 2022 Author Share Posted June 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, ndary said: Hi TMP, would you consider designing the pcb to fit into a standard XE cartridge shell? to fit better inside an ATARI 1200XL or ATARI 800? Nir afaik there's only one such shell on the market (sikor's) but that one is too tall (it was made 5mm taller than the original xegs shell) so it doesn't solve the 800 cover issue 1200xl is rare and its narrow cart tunnel can be workarounded by using extender, filing the existing shell or 3d printing a new one so basically there's no incentive 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultrasteve Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 I have an older cart with no case cutouts or headers. Thinking I might butcher it to add headers for both SIO and ECI. It really would be an all-in-one, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultrasteve Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Actually, does anybody have a source for longer ECI cables? I'm in the UK and retrolemon tells me he only has the shorter ones that are not suitable for the older, diagonal position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ijor Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 On 6/12/2022 at 9:10 PM, tmp said: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=391280652952237&id=100320802048225 Just out of curiosity, which FPGAs are you using in these new boards? (assuming it is not a trade secret, why it would be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 um so they all don't get bought up, secret source, secret chip... that way we can still have AVG carts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 The MI5 of Atari carts..So secret, even it does not know where it came from.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Is there a current list of banking types supported? I suspect that the one at the beginning of this thread is no longer valid. The up-to-date list would be nice to include in the DeRe AVGCART. I'd like to put Turbo Basic XL on my cartridge, and be able to boot with MyDos. I found a several rom images, including one that supposedly works in the SIC cart. But it just goes to a black screen and locks up (latest cart firmware). I'd even be happy with an XEX loaded image, but that goes to the splash screen and locks up. Perhaps it fails when placing the new data under the OS rom? I was able to put Frost Basic in an Atarimax cart (years ago), but never got anywhere with TBXL. Anyone had any luck with TBXL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmp Posted June 21, 2022 Author Share Posted June 21, 2022 the list linked in the first post is mostly up-to-date, can you please attach the files you're talking about so it's possible to check them? generally for random files from internet, it's good to check them first in altirra whether they're even working, when it comes to ROM files, they need to be converted to CAR (again altirra can be used, saving them after verifying they work with chosen cart type) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Thanks for the info! I was looking for an actual list as appears in post 23, and I totally overlooked the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascrnet Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Larry said: Anyone had any luck with TBXL? yes, but using the xex version and creating an atarimax cartridge, I share a video with you. demo.avi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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