TIX Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Hello again, Some friends asked me to edit/improve the sprites of Beef Drop, and I already had it in my list ! So I wanted to ask you, what is the current status of the game ?? Can I share here a hacked version ? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 The author of Beef Drop for the A8 recently passed away.... http://atariage.com/forums/topic/269583-ken-siders-has-died/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 Yes I knew that.. I also know that the cartridge is still on sale here on Atari Age, So I suppose it's alright to hack the demo version ? or is the full version of the rom freely shared ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I'd do the same as MrFish has done with Xenophobe, just release a patch file that can be hex-edited in if you already have the cart image. I'd work from the available demo cart image as well rather than the full version, there are far more people with a copy of the demo version. It's probably the same data to change but maybe a different location to patch so you might be able to give both locations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) So the demo version it is ! ok the first thing I noticed, all sprites are 8x16 single color but they seem to have a 2nd layer 4x6 which is in all occasions yellow and it is not editable ?!?!? It is used for the baddies eyes/egg yolk/chef face, its always in the same position and cant be moved.. Never mind I like working around limitations see below an example: Edited December 18, 2018 by TIX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
José Pereira Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 So the demo version it is ! ok the first thing I noticed, all sprites are 8x16 single color but they seem to have a 2nd layer 4x6 which is in all occasions yellow and it is not editable ?!?!? It is used for the baddies eyes/egg yolk/chef face, its always in the same position and cant be moved.. Never mind I like working around limitations see below an example: Humm... Never played nor the game but probably I know what it is. See at the Playing Area if PF3 colour isn't that yellow. This is saying that those are Missiles 2pixels x2 (double width) in 5th Player Mode. It's like you said: Each moving stuff is single coloured so each is 1Player then each use 1Missile to give the 2nd colour, the yellow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 aha.. good to know ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
José Pereira Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) Yes, it is. It isn't really yellow that is colour E but a brown orange colour 1 in luminance A. Just look to the Altirra PrintScreen at the top in Playfield registers the rightest one is PF3 register: That is like I said so there's 4 moving stuff possible per line... EDIT: Hey, and on PRIOR you can see Player 5 is ON. Edited December 18, 2018 by José Pereira 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Is it possible to make this into a real Burger Time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) Is it possible to make this into a real Burger Time? Spritewise I'm shooting for arcade likeness, later I'll see if I can do the title.. Edited December 19, 2018 by TIX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) a better wiener Frank animation frames complete, I still need to work on the highlights.. Edited December 19, 2018 by TIX 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 Hey, at the moment I'm very proud for the chef animation I love the little guy !! comparison sprite sheet coming up. Battle of the chefs below: 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) a better wiener Frank animation frames complete, I still need to work on the highlights.. Final Frank comparison shot, highlights + minor tweaks to the feet ! I'm not too sure about the highlights in black but you must embrace the limitations.. You will notice that in the 1st walking animation frame, Frank has only 1 eye.. this is because of another limitation: I wanted the 2nd eye to be further out, but I don't have yellow available there.. add a little magic (fast animation) and the brain fills the gap !! Edited December 20, 2018 by TIX 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidcalgary29 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Final Frank comparison shot, highlights + minor tweaks to the feet ! I'm not too sure about the highlights in black but you must embrace the limitations.. You will notice that in the 1st walking animation frame, Frank has only 1 eye.. this is because of another limitation: I wanted the 2nd eye to be further out, but I don't have yellow available there.. add a little magic (fast animation) and the brain fills the gap !! His new spots make Frank look a little burnt, which adds a nice touch. Great job! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) Chef sprite sheet comparison Still unsure if I should animate the hat.. looks great but it does not complies with the arcade.. Edited December 20, 2018 by TIX 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted December 22, 2018 Author Share Posted December 22, 2018 (edited) I have noticed a bug in the game (2005 demo).. the chef animation is faster going right than left It wasn't as apparent in the original minimal animation.. but now it is.. Is it possible that another version don't have this problem ? * edit * yes the 2004 demo also have this bug.. Progress report: The chef, frank and egg frames are ready, only dr. dill left !! I have decided not to animate the chef's hat on the ladder, because the up and down movement is already twitchy. Also I don't think I 'll include the black highlights on frank (too messy when animated). I'm thinking about giving all the baddies an evil eyebrow what do you think ? Edited December 22, 2018 by TIX 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 with ya all the way up till the uni-brows, They just don't do it for me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidcalgary29 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Noooo! I want Mr. Yolk to glare at me with his one-eyed stare! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 (edited) All done, here is the release candidate ! chef, frank, egg, dill, all completely redrawn, as close to the arcade as possible. the eyebrow thing was a joke nevertheless in the introduction of the enemies before you start the game, the egg has a weird eyebrow, which is strange because it uses the same sprite as in-game !?!?! Try it and enjoy, let me now of anything wrong.. Beef Drop hack (rc).xex Edited December 23, 2018 by TIX 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Huge sprites improvement, thanks! I have AtarAge Ken Siders (RIP) cart and now I would like to update it. BTW, in cart version the chef animation is faster going right too. Would it be possible to fix it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 (edited) Thanks, I'm very pleased with the result ! Unfortunately no idea on how this can be fixed.. I'm pretty sure the 7800 version has the correct speed animation, thinking of hacking the 7800 rom, so that I can use the extra colors to make the "ultimate" arcade version ??? will see Edited December 23, 2018 by TIX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Great work, still need to DL and try it though but screenshot looks GREAT ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Very nice. Still difficult. I was never able to play that game very well. Can't get past the first level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIX Posted December 25, 2018 Author Share Posted December 25, 2018 Thanks man, start from easy/child difficulty and work your way up, the secret is to drop the baddies with the burger not to hit them with it Enjoy the game and have a merry Christmas ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NML32 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Will there be a patch update for the full version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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