Black Mirror - Bandersnatch

[Mr Robot]

This was interesting!

 

https://www.polygon.com/2018/12/29/18160197/black-mirror-bandersnatch-video-game-zx-spectrum-emulator-nohzdyve

 

Here's the game link

 

https://tuckersoft.net/ealing20541/nohzdyve/

[jefffulton]

It's a Speccy game and the show / adventure was really fun and well made.

[snicklin]

It's a Speccy game and the show / adventure was really fun and well made.

 

I've just played it, it is quite fun.

 

It would be amusing if someone here did a port to the Atari and sent a tape into the Black Mirror production studios / Tuckersoft!

[Lost Dragon]

The Megagames saga:

 

Paul Drury speaks to Eugene Evans and asks some questions about the Mega Games, and Psyclapse in particular! (taken from RG109):

 

Megagames?

 

Lots of publishers had appeared, lots of bedroom programmers were cranking out games, lots of piracy was going on. We were getting WHSmith’s returning product to us and we were saying, wait a minute, this is professionally pirated. I don’t think the industry has been badly affected by individuals pirating games – the problem is when it’s done commercially en masse. We had all sorts of crazy attempts to counter it. We had the Imagine printed on the clear plastic cassette leader tape, producing tapes that were different colours for different games – like Ah Diddums was yellow, Alchemist was gold.. .that was so we could identify pirate copies. Plus we felt we were reaching the limits of those home computers. I think it was Dave Lawson that said, what if we add some hardware which lets you do more and is also impossible to copy.

 

We employed an engineer called Steve Lavache, who I’m still in touch with, and he designed a prototype add-on that wasn’t just more memory, it was a ROM which you could put a game on.

 

Did they point at you and say ‘okay Eugene, make us a megagame!?

 

Well, there was a whole bunch of us. The year before we’d started making the transition from one guy doing pretty much everything, including desperately trying to draw the graphics, to us actually hiring artists. Previously, we hadn’t bothered employing musicians because what was the point if you hadn’t got the memory to include serious music in the game? Now we did have memory! We were breaking the whole development model back then and hiring a load of people. Suddenly, these games had multiple artists, musicians, people doing sound effects, a couple of coders– it was a big switch! It foresaw what was coming. The future wasn’t going to be about one person producing a game, it was going to be about teams. The downside, and what really bit us, is that we didn’t understand that that needed planning.

 

Talked to Ally and John re: Bandersnatch –what progress on Psyclapse?

 

There was stuff on screen but it was not far along at all. I give credit to John and Ian with Bandersnatch –they were much further on and had big characters walking around on screen. We came up with different stories for each of the games, Bandersnatch and Psyclapse. It was very challenging. I don’t think we really understood the scope of what we were trying to do. We didn’t sit down and lay out a plan.

 

What was it going to be like?

 

We came up with the name first and tried to think of a plot to go with the name. It’s a bit of a stretch to remember but the basic storyline was there was a planet or place where someone was pulling from around the universe great warriors to this place where they had to fight and survive. We talked aboutPsyclapse as a ‘Psychological Collapse’ believe it or not. That was the premise. For both games, we had writers. That was a concept! We were going to get them to write a novel that would go in the box. Remember, we were all big fans of what was going on in the US. They were doing things on such a grander scale, probably because they had a bigger market to pursue. Think back to the Infocom games of that time [with lots of extra things in box]. Why were they doing that? One reason was piracy. They hoped that the real fans would want the whole experience – the box it comes in, the crazy manual, whatever gizmo was in the box. I remember one came in a round plastic box shaped like a UFO, the hitch hikers guide came with a grand ‘don’t panic’ button. We were looking at what they were doing and trying to emulate that. There was a whole lot of craziness on top of this piece of hardware that was going to cost money. We’re trying to figure out what that’s going to cost to manufacture and the cost keeps going up. One of the great scenes in Commercial Breaks is when our poor sales rep has to tell a buyer it’s going to cost £40, eight times more than a normal game.

 

Warriors in game – was it a beat em up/fighting game?

 

No, no. It was like Bandersnatch in that there was exploration and some combat. Essentially it was about these warriors trying to work out why they’d been brought there and how they could get back. Much more than that is either lost deep down in my mind or never figured out.

 

We had characters walking around. What both games had in common was characters 2 or 3 inches tall on the screen. A lot of games at the time had tiny characters. We were trying to consume all that memory we had planned to have access to by having really great quality animation. Again, we not only hired artists and designers, we hired animators.

 

Bailliffs? On loo?

 

It’s true! We were working on the games while things were falling apart. Ian and Dave had gone to the States to try and raise some money which I think was the right idea. It’s amazing to think at the time we were the number one publisher in the UK, Bruce has been quoted saying we were turning over a million a month which was a lot of money at the time, but we had failed to tap into the US market. Very few had. We were starting to see companies like US Gold bringing games in from the States, competing with us, and they the advantage of licensing games, so had none of the risk of developing a game, employing programmers, working out if it was going to be any good. They would just bring over the top 5 games! I wonder how different the industry might have been if we’d gotten into the States earlier and said, okay how do we make games that the publishers over there are really going to want. We were getting distracted by all these machines coming out –the Oric and the Amstrad the Dragon – all these machines were produced domestically and had no market in the US. If we could’ve gone after the huge US market, that whole period could’ve played out differently for a whole bunch of companies.

 

That day, the office was in a shambles. There was a lot of division, a lot of fear, a lot of concern – in parallel to the megagames we’d done this deal with Marshall Cavendish to produce a magazine about videogaming and have a cassette on the cover with a free game. This was a different way to combat piracy because if people liked the magazine, they’d subscribe and keep buying it for months. The short version is we hired a ton of people, it was very difficult to find experienced, talented people. We said we’d produce 10 games in a year, which was just crazy. It’s not a reflection on those pople – a lot of them went onto do great things– but in just 2 years we’d made this transition to one guy doing everything, to small teams, to 100 people trying to produce 10 games in a year that were actually good. When Marsahll Cavendish saw the quality of the first games thewsy said, we’re not doing this, we’re pulling out. Suddenly we’re left with far more staff than we need. We knew we were heading for bad times.

 

To their credit, the management really didn’t want to cut people, they saw it as a family, and finally it caught up with us. Everyone was in the pub one day – things were generally lax as we were all afraid of where things were heading and the next ting someone whispers in my ear, you better get upstairs, the bailiffs are here. We ran upstairs to disiover the bailiffs and local sherrif had turned up, were locking the doors and taking inventory. John Gibson and I saw what was going on and got it into our heads we wanted to continue with the megagames, so we grabbed as many of the development machines as we could, took them to the bathrooms, put them on the toilets and locked the doors, then crawled underneath. We didn’t see it as stealing. We had the best intentions in the world – we wanted to finish those games. We needed to grab that stuff and work out how to continue working on them.

 

We did set up at Dave Lawson’s house but then we went to a bankruptcy hearing with maybe 50 0r 60 people there and at the end, they rattled off a list of people they wanted to keep behind. Me, John and a number of other people stayed around and a nice lady walked up and said ‘are you Eugene Eichard Evans and I now know if anyone ever does that, say no. She handed me an envelope that said they believed I had assets of imagine software in my possession and if I didn’t hand them over, they would take action.

 

What happened?

 

Everything was at Dave Lawson’s place in the Wirral. We were still driving around in some of the cars we had from Imagine and one day some nice gentlemen who clearly looked like could look after themselves, came to reposses them. We were happy to hand them over. They’d been so polite.

 

Give computers back? Did you copy disks first?

 

I think the statues of limitations mean I’m now safe to say of course we copied them! We were starting to negotiate for the rights [to the megagames] They had rows and rows of computer equipment they wanted to sell off and if that happened, the code would be gone. In the end, we did get the rights to Bandersnatch which became Braatacus for the ST and Amiga from Psygnosis.

 

Did the Psyclapse code get in there?

 

It was really just the thinking. Sinclair were about to come out with the QL and we realised we didn’t need any extra fancy hardware but the thinking was right. Here’s a machine that’s going to have enough memory, it has this crazy drive we can put a big game on and Sinclair might actually be willing to fund this. The plan was to do it for the QL. That machine ended up being a complete failure but it did get us up to speed on that processor [68000 – check] and Dave, who I think was the principle coder, moved it onto the ST and Amiga, where it eventually came out as Brattacus.

[Lost Dragon]

Bandersnatch from World Of Spectrum:

 

Perhaps the most (in)famous of all the Spectrum unreleased games.

Probably the best article on the story behind the game can be found in issue 12 of Crash in The Biggest Commercial Break of Them All (available on the on-line version), which tells the story about the television program which charted Imagine's downfall.

Briefly, Imagine were one of the most publicity-hungry companies of their day. From early 1984 they began publicising their so-called Megagames, Bandersnatch for the Spectrum and Psyclapse for the Commodore 64, and a number of different adverts appeared during the year for the games in the computer press.

Imagine had said that they had reached the limit of the capabilities of the Spectrum and planned to release the game with a hardware add-on which would increase the Spectrum's memory. Various reports suggested that the game would costs anywhere between £20 to £40.

The game though was never finished and Imagine collapsed during about the Autumn of 1984.

On Games That Weren't, Marc Dawson comments that the Megagames had reached "quite an advanced stage and looked incredible"”

The game never appeared despite the fact that Ian Heatherington and Dave Lawson formed a company called Fireiron (nb - I have also seen reports saying this company was called Finchspeed) and planned to release the game for Sinclair Research for the QL either on ROM cartridge or Microdrive.

Some of the programmers who worked on Bandersnatch went on to form Denton Designs and their first game Gift from the Gods was described as a "direct descendant" of the ill-fated Megagame. The central character in Gift was said to be very similar to the one in Bandersnatch.

[Lost Dragon]

In a time when creating games was usually a one person affair, Imagine

Software believed they could corner the Speccy and C64 market with

"mega-games" created by teams of programmers, artists and musicians. These

games utilised Imagine's propiertary RAM packs that increased the memory of

the Speccy and C64 to 128K (long before the Spectrum 128K or C128 were

released). Imagine also run a teaser marketing campaign that created mystery

and plenty of hype -- Bandersnatch and Psyclapse are comming!

 

Bandersnatch was Imagine's Speccy "mega-game" and was effectively the first

Speccy 128K game, however it was far from complete when the company went

bust. During the dubious goings on of winding up Imagine, a company called

Finchspeed was created -- Imagine's intellectual assets transfered to it and

the Bandersnatch team were employed by it. Finchspeed then sold the game

rights to Sinclair Research (as a state-of-the-art release title for the

then rumoured 128K Speccy) and started to develop a QL version before

folding -- Dave Lawson and Ian Heatherington then formed Psygnosis and the

development team formed Denton Designs.

 

Bandersnatch's programming techniques (large sprites and flip screen special

effects) and graphical style can be found in Denton Design's first game

"Gift Of The Gods" (published by Ocean) -- as John Gibson (lead programmer)

and Ally Noble (artist) worked on both games. Other Bandersnatch team

members included Ian Weatherburn (programmer), Steve Cain (artist), Fred

Grey (musician) and many others.

 

Bandersnatch's plot was set in an inter-galactic nightclub on an asteroid,

where buildings were linked by glass tubes across the surface. There were

lots of interesting characters, including a fat bouncer (complete with bow

tie) and a banana skin eating green worm (who inspired the green worm in

Nodes Of Yesod), who all communicated via text in speech bubbles (just like

"Where Time Stood Still" also by Denton Designs). The game genre was a

flip-screen arcade-adventure.

 

 

Psyclapse was Imagine's C64 "mega-game", but only really existed on paper

before the company went bust. The only demo had the hero, wearing knee-high

black boots, stomping along -- he was fixed in the centre of the

screen (like Tir Na Nog) and a stoney wall background scrolled left and

right. The hero was actually quite large by 1984 standards, using mutiple

raster sprites. The story was about an evil villain who had transported

warriors from throughout time to his fortress castle on a secret island, the

object of the game was to escape.

 

 

 

Source:

Stuart James Fotheringham

[Gregory DG]

Just watched this a 3rd time (wife controlled the 2nd) and I did get the 5 star ending. This time I watched the credits and saw Jeff Minter's name in there as Jerome F. Davies! Pretty awesome I think!