outRun A Poll about doing an OutRun for A8...

[Kjmann]

I think if digital sounds were to be used at 4 kilohertz and done with a very short version of the sounds it would probably work pretty well.  Everything except the engine sound. If I recall the sounds can be played not using every DLI so that the game doesn't have to be stopped to play them.

Edited August 21, 2022 by Kjmann

[Beeblebrox]

The way Shanti handled music and sound effects in The Last Squadron alongside the dlis and sprite multiplexing is pretty amazing.  Perhaps worth a look? 

[Synthpopalooza]

10 hours ago, Kjmann said:

Wouldn't it be possible to mute channel one and play a sound effect, then start the channel again? 

Or how about using some digital sounds the way we did in tempest xtreem?

 

Digital sounds would use a lot of CPU so couldn't be relied on extensively.

 

As for muting and replaying:  if the music routine could be made smart enough to resume the music at the correct point after the sound fx finish on that channel ...

 

Meanwhile, will try to find the SMS music and have a play...

 

[Synthpopalooza]

I like the idea of hitting the GTIA every DLI for the engine sound ... that could work.

 

If you hit the GTIA every scanline for the high engine, every two scanilnes (or 3) when downshifting, etc.

 

 

Edited August 22, 2022 by Synthpopalooza

[Kjmann]

16 minutes ago, Synthpopalooza said:

As for muting and replaying:  if the music routine could be made smart enough to resume the music at the correct point after the sound fx finish on that channel .... 

 

I think the person to ask about this would be vinscool. 

 

I could make my versions of the songs 3 channels, but the harmony would be missing from the songs. 

Still would probably sound ok, but before we do that, lets ask vinscool about it. 

[Kjmann]

I have sent VinsCool a message about this. 

[Kjmann]

Bump 

[Kjmann]

Source Code

 

 

 

 

outrun-src.zip

[+Stephen]

Awesome - thanks for sharing.

[Kjmann]

Ok.  Here is the response from vinscool in playing a sound effect over a channel already playing music in progress.... 

 

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VinsCool said..

 

Yes it's absolutely possible, as long as there is code that keeps track of the sfx playing, and overwrites the POKEY channel that also is playing the music, the SFX will take priority over it, and will play the SFX for as long as it is told to do it.

 

So in simpler terms: have the music driver run first, then the SFX code run and overwrite the channel that wants a SFX if anything triggered a SFX to play, and the remaining process will be handled by the music driver when it writes out the buffered bytes to the POKEY before playing for another frame, and be hijacked by the SFX once more, and so on.

 

[Kjmann]

Still looking for coders on this one.   😃

[+ZeroPage Homebrew]

ZeroPage Homebrew is playing Outrun on tomorrow's stream LIVE on Twitch, hope you can join us!

 

Fri Sep 23, 2022 @ 12PM PT | 3PM ET | 7PM GMT

WATCH LIVE: https://www.twitch.tv/zeropagehomebrew/
WATCH LATER: https://youtube.com/zeropagehomebrew/

 

Games:

• Dracula Story (2022 WIP | A8) by Jan Johnsen @Grevle
• Outrun (2022 WIP | A8) by Sal Esquivel @Kjmann
• Skakatory (A8) by Rafał Chabowski @mgr_inz_rafal (Code/Graphics), PG @pseudografx
• The Hangmad (WIP | A8) by Bocianu @bocianu (Code & Graphics) / Lisu @LiSU (Music)

(WATCH at 1080P60 FOR BEST QUALITY)

 

[_The Doctor__]

On 8/20/2022 at 4:44 PM, Kjmann said:

I will help anyway I can to get this one finished.  After a coder or two and I get it done,  i would like to release it for free ans see if al wants to offer a nice cart version and package to sell in the store for the collectors. Any one is welcome to pitch in on this.  I will post the source code if yall want it. 

Maybe this will be picked up and completed in his honor, the source code and WIP are in this thread. Too many times projects are laid to rest with the person who kicked it off or were the main driving force behind them. They want/wish their work to continue to grow and be the best it can be, to be completed not locked in time or held as an untouchable memorial. It would be a nice touch to send him off as this being one of the things during his coming back.

Edited December 18, 2022 by _The Doctor__

[snicklin]

I am so very grateful for Sal passing on the code while he still could.

 

For most of us, our partners or children wouldn't have a clue what to do with our code and or hardware once we pass.

[_The Doctor__]

Very true, at least the chance exists with the sources for this to be one day.