Guest cvo Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 From what I heard, there are a few reasons behind this. Space is a big one, especially in Vegas. You can't get bigger if there's not enough room for it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't CES and Comdex held in Vegas? Comdex has a massive massive attendance, so I'm sure that if they can handle Comdex they can handle CGE. I just said about two posts ago. Dan Iacovelli I just had to post for emphasis. I find it very hard to believe, very very hard to believe, that Vegas, one of the biggest convention hubs in the country, can't handle CGE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkoffgirl Posted August 13, 2003 Author Share Posted August 13, 2003 I'm not sure what CEX and Comdex are, but it's not JUST size availablity. It's size affordability, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquid_sky Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 http://www.cesweb.org/ http://www.comdex.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Iacovelli Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 I'm not sure what CEX and Comdex are, but it's not JUST size availablity. It's size affordability, too. CES: Consumer Electronic Show held yearly in vegas(used to be two shows summer in chiacgo and winter in vegas) only open to store owners and press (it might be open to public now) http://www.cesweb.org/ Comdex: is mostly computers trade show http://www.comdex.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 I'm not sure what CEX and Comdex are, but it's not JUST size availablity. It's size affordability, too. I can't believe that San Fransico would be cheaper than Vegas. In fact I think you'll find that it's much MUCH more expensive. Everything in California is expensive, especially in the bay area. Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManFan Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 No doubt. In Vegas everything is subsidized by the gambling (and/or the fact they want you to gamble) so dirt cheap is the word of the day. Hell our airfare last year was only $99 each way - how can you beat that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendon Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Hell our airfare last year was only $99 each way - how can you beat that? Sky Miles from wife's job which made first class round trip airfare FREE... Mendon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManFan Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Okay, I guess you CAN'T beat that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angusjake Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Tempest wrote: CGE was fun I'm glad to hear CGE was great fun. But unless I'm mistaken, aren't you the person who made various comments and innuendo (without ever explaining yourself or clarifying) about something 'sinister' going on, and as a result you were not going to attend CGE? What gives? Care to clear this up, or shall we leave things hanging? long live all classic gaming events! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolenta Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 I can't believe that San Fransico would be cheaper than Vegas. In fact I think you'll find that it's much MUCH more expensive. Everything in California is expensive, especially in the bay area. I agree. Not only will the plane fare be more expensive (especially for those flying from less populated areas); the hotel will be more expensive. Booking the event wil cost more which in turn will make ticket prices more expensive. And in all liklihood, out-of-towners will probably need a car so that's another expense to tack on (I rented a car in Las Vegas also but I doubt if I'll get the same $11-a-day price in California). Another good thing about Las Vegas is that there are hotels everywhere so we didn't have to get a room at the same hotel with CGE was held. That probably wouldn't be the case in California. And what do we do at night? There is a big balance that must be weighed. Moving the show to Silicon Valley would probably bring in a few more alumni who would never take the trip to Las Vegas. But in my mind, if they don't want to travel to Las Vegas, how important is the show to them? And if they're not interested in it, would we really be interested in them? But the bottom line is that CGE may attract a little more alumni in California, but in so doing, would lose many of the people who usually attend. Just my hmble opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 I'm glad to hear CGE was great fun. But unless I'm mistaken, aren't you the person who made various comments and innuendo (without ever explaining yourself or clarifying) about something 'sinister' going on, and as a result you were not going to attend CGE? What gives? Care to clear this up, or shall we leave things hanging? I did clearify things over on DP many weeks ago as you very well know since you posted in that very thread. It's only a small minority of sad sad people that won't let this drop, therefore I see no point in dredging this up again. Please go cause trouble elsewhere. Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 Moving the show to Silicon Valley would probably bring in a few more alumni who would never take the trip to Las Vegas. But in my mind, if they don't want to travel to Las Vegas, how important is the show to them? And if they're not interested in it, would we really be interested in them? You do bring up a good point, although I'm sure some alumni don't show up to Vegas because they're too busy to take a 3 day vacation. Still I just don't see a CA show working as well as the current Vegas one. Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Slocum Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 One of the big pulls for me is Vegas. I'll be less likely to go next year if it moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 One of the big pulls for me is Vegas. I'll be less likely to go next year if it moves. Agreed. As cool as the show is, it isn't open 24 hours a day and people need something to do after the show. The problem with a place like San Fransico is that many things aren't in walking distance of the hotel (or convention center). That means people will have to rent cars ro take taxi's to get anywhere. That can get very expensive fast. In Vegas everything is literally right outside the hotel and if you get bored in Vegas then you're not trying hard enough. Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Iacovelli Posted August 13, 2003 Share Posted August 13, 2003 I was talking to my sibs about the possible move from Vegas to SF. and my bro said if the cost of the room rental is the probelm why don't they just move the show further off the strip like sams town. thats good poiont because since your further you won't have to worry about the prices of the room I figure that place like sams town would charge less then the main places . my two cents. Dan Iacovelli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Iacovelli Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 I was talking to my sibs about the possible move from Vegas to SF.and my bro said if the cost of the room rental is the probelm why don't they just move the show further off the strip like sams town. thats good poiont because since your further you won't have to worry about the prices of the room I figure that place like sams town would charge less then the main places . my two cents. Dan Iacovelli I just posted my thoughts about the move from NV to Cal for CGE on their mailing list. I also mentioned Laughlin,NV which is on the boarder of NV,Colorado and California right off the boulder river. (what got me: was that joe never heard of Sams town or laughlin,NV and CGE was in Vegas for six years, and I've been to vegas about 4 times and I've been to both locations) Dan Iacovelli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gateway Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 I also mentioned Laughlin,NV which is on the boarder of NV,Colorado andCalifornia right off the boulder river. Has Colorado redrawn its state borders recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Iacovelli Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 I meant it's boarding Arizona and California and on the the banks of the Colorado River. my bad Dan Iacovelli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManFan Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 To me it seems like "keep it in Vegas" is the bottom line. The 24-hour round-the-clock entertainment, the cheap airfare + food and lodging, the hedonistic glee of blowing your money in Sin City, and perhaps most importantly the history of holding it there in years past, which also brings back repeat vendors and visitors. That's just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Iacovelli Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 To me it seems like "keep it in Vegas" is the bottom line. The 24-hour round-the-clock entertainment, the cheap airfare + food and lodging, the hedonistic glee of blowing your money in Sin City, and perhaps most importantly the history of holding it there in years past, which also brings back repeat vendors and visitors. That's just my two cents. according what joe sent on the list they are looking to get more guest speakers (game developers) to come thats why they want move the show to cali. if trhey move from freemont to laughlin,nv they might be able to get people from california since laughlin is close to california. Dan Iacovelli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManFan Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 Yeah but who is going to hop on a Southwest Airlines flight to Laughlin anyway? That's looking at it ass-backwards. If you're making it convenient to people who live and work in Silicon Valley or Cali in general, you're improving things for a handful of people and guaranteeing lower turnout for the rest who have no interest in some butthole named Laughlin (well maybe it's not a butthole but it can't be anything like Las Vegas). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Iacovelli Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 they could fly into vegas and stay on the strip and rent a car to go to laughlin. (theres also tours that go that way too) laughlin is a pretty nice place I've been there plus theres other things there too. http://enjoylaughlin.com Dan Iacovelli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Iacovelli Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 Sams town is right off the strip and freemont street so that will also be a good place for it. Dan Iacovelli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManFan Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 You just can't overlook the glamour factor. Laughlin != Las Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Iacovelli Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 You just can't overlook the glamour factor. Laughlin != Las Vegas. while laughlin is more downscaled from the main strip it still has good points to it besides the casinos. it's basicly more family orinated then vegas is. anyways: I'm not against cge moving to California if it's for the good of the show. (the one main problem I do see, is the vendors: since I know that most of the vendors doesnt take credit cards,(telegames is basicly the only vendor that does) it will be hard for visitors to get extra money since california doesn't have a ATM alomost every place like vegas does) my two 1/2 cents. Dan Iacovelli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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