Magmavision2000 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Was it 1983/1984 severe or was it just a burnout? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 A bit of both and very US or maybe North American area regional, not global. What you had out those years and prior created some serious issues with consumer trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikebloke Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Yeah around 77 you had masses of pong clones in Europe, and in 83-84 you had loads of microprocessors being released with loads of games coming out. The crashes simply didn't happen anywhere near the same scale in Europe, but they were still affected in terms of US and probably Japanese companies holding back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMaddog Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Was it 1983/1984 severe or was it just a burnout? It was burnout, you can only buy so many dedicated consoles that had variations of the same Pong-type games. And at least there were cartridge-based systems of the 2nd Generation to replace them that revived the market. Same thing happened in 1994 when there were too many 32-bit systems and people were tired of the same 16-bit games but there was the Playstation & N64 to keep the industry going. The Great Crash didn't had a true replacement for the Atari until the NES came out for a couple years (unless you count home computers). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5200Fanatic Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Video games were new, so the momentum and interest was strong enough to get past any 'crash.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE146 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 I don't know.. I was 8. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Was there a "crash" in 1977? I feel like most of the companies around at that time were still making video games into the 1980's. Coleco, Taito, Atari, Nintendo, etc. Maybe there was an industry downturn, but it doesn't seem like it was bad enough to force most of the big guys (for the time) out of the industry like the '83 crash did. And those same companies made most of their money after '77. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffVav Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 1977 was when the Atari 2600 debuted. Didn't feel like a crash to me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edladdin Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 The big players DID survive, but there must have been a dozen knockoff artists that got flushed loose. They were the equivalent of shovelwsre game companies in 83 and 84, but in 77 everyone was using the exact same Pong-on-a-chip IC to build their generic consoles. The arrival of the VCS was like a smart bomb to all those now-forgotten manufacturers. This site has quite a few of these: http://computermuseum.50megs.com/collectionpong.htm 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBerel Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I don't remember a crash back then, just a bunch of dumb companies turning out the same crap pong sets in new versions over and over. Nobody needed more than one or two at most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Yeah, I don't think it got sufficiently high off the ground to have a "crash." They just stopped making single-purpose pong units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 It was kinda like a fart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 It was kinda like a fart.See #10https://www.calebwilde.com/2014/11/10-things-bodies-can-do-after-death/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangia-Boy Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I don't know.. I was 8. What was your interest at that age? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE146 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 What was your interest at that age? maxresdefault.jpg At 8 years old (i.e. 1977) I don't fully recall tbh.. but that picture is from half a decade later.. 1982, and I know EXACTLY what my interests were that time and it started with an A and ended with an I. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Was there a "crash" in 1977? I feel like most of the companies around at that time were still making video games into the 1980's. Coleco, Taito, Atari, Nintendo, etc. Maybe there was an industry downturn, but it doesn't seem like it was bad enough to force most of the big guys (for the time) out of the industry like the '83 crash did. And those same companies made most of their money after '77. The industry was also tiny in 1977. It also wasn't like 83 where you would notice that it became harder and harder to find cartridges in stores for your console. In 1977 the cartridge systems were just coming to market. So a lot of people may just not have noticed a crash. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Prior to the VCS I had a couple 2 or 3 dedicated pong/hockey/racing/tank "consoles" along with the Atari Video Pinball. So despite the market "crashing" for those I never noticed. I was absorbed into what I actually had and not what was announced or coming out or endless duplicates in the store. Then cartridges! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE146 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) Yeah I was really gonna say.. Not talking about arcades, but wtf consumer home video game market was there really in 1976 to even "crash" in 1977, aside from the pong clones? Just look at any Sears or JCPenny christmas catalog at that time as those are generally good indicators of the flagship toys & products. In the 1976 catalog it's a sad friggin single front page item next to a pleather jacket. However in Winter 1977 the amount of product skyrockets showing the VCS and others. And I only remember things going gangbusters from that point on through the years with the arcades really taking off (e.g. SPACE INVADERS) and the home market coming into its own for gaming. Edited March 13, 2019 by NE146 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 ugh, those prices. "HOCKEY-TENNIS II" for $28.95 in 1977 is like $121.43 today. Even the Playstation Classic was only $99.99 until it flopped and dropped. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+wongojack Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Was that Tank for 58.95 with the wired Atari joysticks ever sold? It looks like a VCS prototype or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magmavision2000 Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 Was that Tank for 58.95 with the wired Atari joysticks ever sold? It looks like a VCS prototype or something. Tank.png To my knowledge the tank console never released. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassGuitari Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Was that Tank for 58.95 with the wired Atari joysticks ever sold? Nope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxdrive Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 It was not as severe as 83 but if you think about it, it was similar to what happened. Multiple companies putting out inferior products. Plus I think having everything as a dedicated system hurt too. Want to play pong hook it up want to play racing unhook pong hook up racing. It needed a revamp and Atari was able to provide that with the 2600. In a way it is very similar to what Nintendo did in the 80s. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Cade Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Nope. I have never seen one and I have looked on and off for years. I've never had one trigger the eBay search. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassGuitari Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 I have never seen one and I have looked on and off for years. I've never had one trigger the eBay search. Nor will you. It was never released. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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