Airshack Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Tonight I’ll be meeting with my buddy whom worked at the Consumer Electronics TI-99/4A facility in Lubbock Texas — back in the day. He worked as a tech fixing returned TI-99/4 systems. He’s claimed to have seen the then secret 99/8 and 99/2, to include the ramping up of a 99/8 production line. I brought my Lubbock map and plan to ask about where everything was located. This summer I’ll be in Lubbock and figured it’d be fun to track down the old buildings. Anyone have any good questions I should ask? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 9 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/290116-lubbock-texas-ti-sites/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Schmitzi Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 yeah, maybe he has some vintage pics. would love to see 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/290116-lubbock-texas-ti-sites/#findComment-4256156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
digdugnate Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 that is so cool! my dad worked at TI in Richardson and Sherman. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/290116-lubbock-texas-ti-sites/#findComment-4256175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Memories of driving to and from Lubbock from Clovis, NM using US 84 more times than I want to count. . . 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/290116-lubbock-texas-ti-sites/#findComment-4256198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 I drove from Clovis to Amarillo plenty of times. Oh, the smell of Clovis and parts surrounding after a good rain. Yeah, ask him where they buried the rest of the 99/8s 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/290116-lubbock-texas-ti-sites/#findComment-4256217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 I lived in Clovis for three years--I'm not sure I would even try to send my worst enemy there to live. . .although the third of the town that was mostly of Mexican descent (those families had been living there since Clovis was part of Mexico) was actually quite nece--and had some really nice restaurants too. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/290116-lubbock-texas-ti-sites/#findComment-4256225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 I lived in Clovis for three years--I'm not sure I would even try to send my worst enemy there to live. . .although the third of the town that was mostly of Mexican descent (those families had been living there since Clovis was part of Mexico) was actually quite nece--and had some really nice restaurants too. It sucks the soul out of you. I figured that out during my last visit. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/290116-lubbock-texas-ti-sites/#findComment-4256229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airshack Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) that is so cool! my dad worked at TI in Richardson and Sherman. My buddy Brett was transferred to Sherman after the third line of TI-99/4s shut down. Unfortunately, Brett was only there for a year before it all collapsed. He was hired in Dec 1982. Told me an interesting story on how he got contacted in Detroit by TI recruiters, and hired at the age of twenty to move down to Lubbock. Brett was hired to repair the 99/4s that failed testing at the end of the new third assembly line. He says they were going at full steam when he arrived in Jan 1983. He included a few interesting details about life working on the line. I’ll try to fill in the gaps and post if anyone is interested. Maybe we can start a thread of these kind of memories? The history of our favorite 1970s computer is rather ignored by the Fake News retro media. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Edited April 12, 2019 by Airshack 5 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/290116-lubbock-texas-ti-sites/#findComment-4256544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
digdugnate Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 My buddy Brett was transferred to Sherman after the third line of TI-99/4s shut down. Unfortunately, Brett was only there for a year before it all collapsed. He was hired in Dec 1982. Told me an interesting story on how he got contacted in Detroit by TI recruiters, and hired at the age of twenty to move down to Lubbock. Brett was hired to repair the 99/4s that failed testing at the end of the new third assembly line. He says they were going at full steam when he arrived in Jan 1983. He included a few interesting details about life working on the line. I’ll try to fill in the gaps and post if anyone is interested. Maybe we can start a thread of these kind of memories? The history of our favorite 1970s computer is rather ignored by the Fake News retro media. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro I'm definitely interested. My dad I know in Sherman was an Electrical Engineer working on the Paveway missile guidance stuff (if I'm remembering correctly). He was there like from 1974-1998 or something similar. Towards the end his group was moved to the Denison facility, then they got folded into a firm called 'Superior Magnetics'. His involvement with the TI computer stuff was in the early 80s and submitting programs/demos to their program where TI would 'buy' the stuff off the employees/users. I also vaguely remember a company store where they sold things. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/290116-lubbock-texas-ti-sites/#findComment-4256552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airshack Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 His involvement with the TI computer stuff was in the early 80s and submitting programs/demos to their program where TI would 'buy' the stuff off the employees/users. I also vaguely remember a company store where they sold things. Interesting. Part of an internal TI program or that OK City Intl TI Program Exchange deal? Did he get anything published? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/290116-lubbock-texas-ti-sites/#findComment-4256710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Always interested in hearing about memories like this - thanks! BTW: there's still no 'History of the TI-99' book? 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/290116-lubbock-texas-ti-sites/#findComment-4256713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airshack Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 Yeah, ask him where they buried the rest of the 99/8s Ha! He saw the 99/8 line they were building once. He does not know where the few machines he saw in the R&D area ended up. Probably went to higher ranking employees he said. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/290116-lubbock-texas-ti-sites/#findComment-4256744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
digdugnate Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Interesting. Part of an internal TI program or that OK City Intl TI Program Exchange deal? Did he get anything published? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro I'm pretty sure it was an internal TI deal. I was so young that I don't remember which demos that TI bought/published/distributed, but it seemed like they were all music demos he programmed in either Basic, Extended Basic, or Assembly. I've got an unfinished version of a game called 'Caveman' he was working on in Assembly that was based on the Ringo Starr movie, as well. His name was Sam Moore, Jr. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/290116-lubbock-texas-ti-sites/#findComment-4256755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airshack Posted April 13, 2019 Author Share Posted April 13, 2019 I'm pretty sure it was an internal TI deal. I was so young that I don't remember which demos that TI bought/published/distributed, but it seemed like they were all music demos he programmed in either Basic, Extended Basic, or Assembly. I've got an unfinished version of a game called 'Caveman' he was working on in Assembly that was based on the Ringo Starr movie, as well. His name was Sam Moore, Jr. So you have the source code? Share? Loved that movie because as I recall Barbara Bach was hawt! How did Ringo get the best looking wife? Game I suppose. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/290116-lubbock-texas-ti-sites/#findComment-4256792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airshack Posted April 13, 2019 Author Share Posted April 13, 2019 (edited) Always interested in hearing about memories like this - thanks! BTW: there's still no 'History of the TI-99' book? There is The Orphan Chronicles book which the first half is factual and interesting yet drifts off into weirdness of post-1983 99/4 survival topics. https://archive.org/details/tibook_the-orphan-chronicles I’ll summarize the things I find out from Brett and will post here. Edited April 13, 2019 by Airshack 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/290116-lubbock-texas-ti-sites/#findComment-4256797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonecool Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 That is so cool! Did you happen to take any video of your trip? If you did/have enough footage and want someone to edit for you, I'd be happy to do so. I could send you my edits back for you to post or I could post it to my YT channel, either way. That would be a great piece of history to preserve! 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/290116-lubbock-texas-ti-sites/#findComment-4256818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
digdugnate Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 So you have the source code? Share? Loved that movie because as I recall Barbara Bach was hawt! How did Ringo get the best looking wife? Game I suppose. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro I do- it'd just take me a bit once I get my TI back up and going. i need to get a replacement tv/monitor for mine Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/290116-lubbock-texas-ti-sites/#findComment-4257142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airshack Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 That is so cool! Did you happen to take any video of your trip? If you did/have enough footage and want someone to edit for you, I'd be happy to do so. I could send you my edits back for you to post or I could post it to my YT channel, either way. That would be a great piece of history to preserve! I am going to Lubbock this summer. Haven’t gone yet. I do know where to go now. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/290116-lubbock-texas-ti-sites/#findComment-4257504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+FarmerPotato Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 I'm pretty sure it was an internal TI deal. I was so young that I don't remember which demos that TI bought/published/distributed, but it seemed like they were all music demos he programmed in either Basic, Extended Basic, or Assembly. I've got an unfinished version of a game called 'Caveman' he was working on in Assembly that was based on the Ringo Starr movie, as well. His name was Sam Moore, Jr. Sam Moore Jr was a big influence on me as a kid. I received a few of his music "videos" through friends. They were generally excellent in quality, so I loaded them many times. All of the pop songs were new to me as a kid, so I credit Sam Moore Jr with "educating" me in these pop standards, such as Time in a Bottle, Killing Me Softly, You're So Vain, Yesterday, plus a few classical works like Moonlight Sonata and the jazzy 5th of Beethoven and Bumble Boogie. The graphics were always fun. Here are listings of what's available in the Tigercub collections of Sam Moore Jr: Sam Moore Jr disks http://ftp.whtech.com/emulators/pc99/tigercub/ 600, 601, 602, 603 in PC99 format (use ti99dir to extract files or convert to V9T9 dsk) 600 : 343 used 17 free 90 KB 1S/1D 40T 9 S/T ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AMAZEFILE 11 INT/VAR 80 2454 B 122 recs AMAZEGRACE 10 PROGRAM 2254 B BERCEUSE/X 35 PROGRAM 8655 B BUGLEBOOGX 31 PROGRAM 7557 B BUMBLBOOGB 45 PROGRAM 11116 B DOGBOOGIEX 38 PROGRAM 9340 B FORESTROSX 31 PROGRAM 7653 B LOAD 7 PROGRAM 1410 B MAINSCRX 17 PROGRAM 3925 B ODEPUPPYX 34 PROGRAM 8326 B VARTHEMEX 30 PROGRAM 7181 B VENUSRHAPX 26 PROGRAM 6297 B WESTBOOGX 26 PROGRAM 6257 B MOORE#2 : 345 used 15 free 90 KB 1S/1D 40T 9 S/T ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5THBEETHVX 47 PROGRAM 11574 B ALBUMLEAFX 46 PROGRAM 11444 B IN/MILL/X 38 PROGRAM 9371 B JUSTWAY/X 38 PROGRAM 9390 B KILMESOFTX 28 PROGRAM 6819 B LIGHTFILE 10 INT/VAR 80 2244 B 121 recs LIGHTLIFX2 16 PROGRAM 3802 B LOAD 7 PROGRAM 1334 B OP/23/X 30 PROGRAM 7307 B TIME-DATA 12 INT/VAR 80 2620 B 134 recs TIME/BOTX2 28 PROGRAM 6720 B YESTERDAYX 43 PROGRAM 10607 B MOORE#3 : 350 used 10 free 90 KB 1S/1D 40T 9 S/T ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- BOOGOOGIEX 34 PROGRAM 8204 B GUITAR/X 20 PROGRAM 4773 B LOAD 7 PROGRAM 1345 B MOONLSON/X 49 INT/VAR 254 12090 B 48 recs MORNING/X 40 PROGRAM 9850 B NOCTURNE 41 PROGRAM 10218 B OZMEDLEY 42 PROGRAM 10384 B RONDO 41 PROGRAM 10068 B SEABOTTOM 23 PROGRAM 5400 B SENORITA 24 PROGRAM 5804 B VENBOAT/X 27 PROGRAM 6454 B MOORE#4 : 339 used 21 free 90 KB 1S/1D 40T 9 S/T ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- BIGCATBOOG 19 PROGRAM 4457 B CSONATA 43 PROGRAM 10668 B GRAYMOUSE 18 PROGRAM 4116 B KANGAROO 16 PROGRAM 3793 B LOAD 7 PROGRAM 1502 B MAPLELEAF 44 PROGRAM 10962 B MASH4077 40 PROGRAM 9934 B SILENCIA 14 PROGRAM 3240 B SNOWSCENE 11 PROGRAM 2393 B SPLENDORED 38 PROGRAM 9405 B SUNDAYDRIV 18 PROGRAM 4286 B WITCHDANCE 42 PROGRAM 10331 B WITHLOVE 27 PROGRAM 6495 B 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/290116-lubbock-texas-ti-sites/#findComment-4260484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
digdugnate Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 nice! greg converted a lot of these to TI disk for me and sparkdrummer i think chased down some more but it's awesome to see the stuff and that folks remember. when my dad left TI it was on pretty bad terms because of how they handled it- he won't even talk about it 20-odd years later. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/290116-lubbock-texas-ti-sites/#findComment-4260528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
digdugnate Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 So you have the source code? Share? Loved that movie because as I recall Barbara Bach was hawt! How did Ringo get the best looking wife? Game I suppose. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro I got my TI up and found the disk file, but when i loaded it into E/A it said something about 'control character missing'. I will need to look at it some more. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/290116-lubbock-texas-ti-sites/#findComment-4261876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+FarmerPotato Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 I got my TI up and found the disk file, but when i loaded it into E/A it said something about 'control character missing'. I will need to look at it some more. Is it CONTROL CHARACTER REMOVED? I have seen this somewhere, maybe a messed up file. This error might be returned by EDIT1 (the editor) or possible ASSM1 (assembler), but the LOADER does not use it. I think it refers to the last line of the file, which has the editor's tab settings, being an unexpected format. These are some of the E/A error numbers. 0-7 I/O ERROR 8 MEMORY FULL 9 CONTROL CHARACTER REMOVED not used by loader. A ILLEGAL TAG (one of D,E,G,H) B CHECKSUM ERROR C DUPLICATE DEFINITION D UNRESOLVED REFERENCE E PROGRAM NOT FOUND not used by loader 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/290116-lubbock-texas-ti-sites/#findComment-4261946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
digdugnate Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Ugh. I think this ate my reply on the phone. I havent pulled out my EA manual yet- i just had a few minutes between stuff today to dink with it. The game will load just fine, but was hoping to peek at source code. Just need to be methodical, i think. Ill dig more into it tomorrow and get filenames and screenshots/etc. To keep from further derailing ill start a new thread tomorrow :-) 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/290116-lubbock-texas-ti-sites/#findComment-4261957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airshack Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 I finally made it out to the site where our beloved machines were produced. A large complex for sure! Still, smaller than I anticipated. It’s still in the middle of nowhere. About two miles north of the Texas Tech Stadium on University, just north of the loop. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/290116-lubbock-texas-ti-sites/#findComment-4363384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airshack Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 AT&T has a call center in the north half of Module A. The southern half of that building is a massive tire storage facility now. 4 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/290116-lubbock-texas-ti-sites/#findComment-4363387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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