asponge Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) Welcome to round 12. This round's game is Ninja Gaiden. The final score doesn't stay up long nor reappear so take note before game over. Again, screenshots aren't required. Game Rules: 1up Farming is Prohibited Manual Score Post Deadline: Sunday May 5 at 11:59 PM CDT. Atari Age High Scores: 400,600 by bubufubu posted on 1/12/2015 359,700 by bigbee99 posted on 7/6/2011 Scores so far: bubufubu 531,000 mbd30 368,300 asponge 115,600 Wrathness 107,800 Floyd Turbo 120,400 empsolo 90,900 roadrunner 31,500 Mister-VCS 18,000 Season Standings: 64 asponge 63 mdb3045 S.BAZ41 empsolo24 roadrunner22 jblenkle 19 mr_intv 15 bubufubu12 Floyd Turbo 7 Wrathness 6 Mister-VCS1 agb General HSC Season Rules: To participate, just post a score to the thread. Anyone can join in at any time. A picture or screenshot is encouraged when posting a score but not required. The season is 15 rounds long. Games will be posted on Sundays and run two weeks through Sunday at 11:59 PM CST. No emulator save states, slow-mo, rewind, etc. No cheats, e.g. Konami code, Game Genie, etc. Turbo controllers are allowed. No point pressing. Round points are awarded according to the number of participants. Every player earns 1 participation point plus 1 point for every player they outscore. For example, if there are 8 players, the player with the highest score earns 8 points, second 7 points, third 6 points, etc. down to the last player who earns 1 point. Edited May 5, 2019 by asponge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd30 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 368,300 301,600 Edited April 23, 2019 by mbd30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd30 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 It should be against the rules to collect any 1up more than once. If you grab a 1up and then die, you can't collect it again. And there is a 1up loop in 5-3 where you can farm as many extra lives as you want. I don't know if this falls under point pressing exactly, but any 1up farming or 1up loops should be forbidden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asponge Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 It should be against the rules to collect any 1up more than once. If you grab a 1up and then die, you can't collect it again. As long as a player isn't purposefully dying in order to replay the level for more points I personally don't have an issue with this. If you're honestly struggling to defeat a level and it's takes a few tries that seems fair to me. In addition, if a player is struggling with a certain point of the game the chances of them blowing away the top scores seems slim. If anyone else has an opinion on this please chime in. We'll go with whatever the group thinks is fair. And there is a 1up loop in 5-3 where you can farm as many extra lives as you want. I don't know if this falls under point pressing exactly, but any 1up farming or 1up loops should be forbidden. Yes, farming 1ups is certainly not very sportsmanlike. I'll add this to the game rules. By the way, thanks for the heads up on both of these points. I'm not very familiar with this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrathness Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 107800 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empsolo Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 90,900 This game is very hard to get a screenshot when you die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd30 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) I beat the game, but I didn't get a picture of my final score in time. I don't even know what it was, lol. At least I got a picture of my score at the final boss. Edited April 23, 2019 by mbd30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd30 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 90,900 This game is very hard to get a screenshot when you die. This is why it's best to get a picture while on your last life because you're probably not going to be quick enough to get it after you die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd30 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) Since point pressing isn't allowed, the high score method involves reaching the final bosses with as many lives as possible (the most you can get without any farming is 5), defeat the first two final boss forms, and then keep suiciding at the third form to replay all of act 6. Edited April 23, 2019 by mbd30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asponge Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 Since point pressing isn't allowed, the high score method involves reaching the final bosses with as many lives as possible (the most you can get without any farming is 5), defeat the first two final boss forms, and then keep suiciding at the third form to replay all of act 6. This game is apparently difficult to play for score if you can't point press. If it works for you and everyone else I'm cool with amending the point pressing rule to exclude timed games. The only reason the rule exists is to keep some games from becoming tedious instead of fun. But, if it's preventing competition then it doesn't make much sense. Any and all opinions are welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd30 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 This game is apparently difficult to play for score if you can't point press. If it works for you and everyone else I'm cool with amending the point pressing rule to exclude timed games. The only reason the rule exists is to keep some games from becoming tedious instead of fun. But, if it's preventing competition then it doesn't make much sense. Any and all opinions are welcome. I'd really rather not point press in a game like this so the current rules are fine with me. It takes so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarilovesyou Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I think that Gaiden is tough to play for score as every enemy regenerates, more or less. But the timer is still a good deterrent. The only big issue would be 1up farming, which you mentioned already. Given how difficult this game is, lots of cheap deaths will make it tough for anyone to survive long enough to post a crazy high score. Maybe just a players agreement to see how far they can get in one game, snap a pic on your last life and recall the final score? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.BAZ Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Oh my goodness! Ninja Gaiden, hardcore. In my opinion, point pressing should be fair game in any game with a timer for each stage. My understanding is that is the purpose of the timer, to make players have to keep going in order to get bigger scores. Same with Double Dragon or Donkey Kong. Just my opinion though, I'll of course abide with whatever gets decided. Also I think reference should be made to whatever rules were used in the past for Ninja Gaiden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd30 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I'll go with allowing point pressing if that's what everybody else wants. I can do it. But it does make the contest more of a time sink. Ninja Gaiden is more fun when you're moving quickly through stages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubufubu Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) 413,800 531,000 Edited April 28, 2019 by bubufubu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asponge Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 Let's just leave the no point pressing rule intact. I don't want to take the fun out of the game. I only mentioned it because it sounded like the rule might have been too limiting. Carry on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asponge Posted April 26, 2019 Author Share Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) 88,100 100,700 110,200 115,600 Edited May 3, 2019 by asponge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 31,500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Turbo Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) Ninja Gaiden - 94,200. 120,400. You guys are right, it's so hard to get a pick before dying. Edited May 2, 2019 by Floyd Turbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister-VCS Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 18,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asponge Posted May 6, 2019 Author Share Posted May 6, 2019 (edited) That's it for round 12. Points Awarded: bubufubu 531,000 +8 mbd30 368,300 +7 Floyd Turbo 120,400 +6 asponge 115,600 +5 Wrathness 107,800 +4 empsolo 90,900 +3 roadrunner 31,500 +2 Mister-VCS 18,000 +1 Edited May 6, 2019 by asponge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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