slaanesh Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Why no Atari 8-bit Elite homebrew? So many amazing Atari 8-bit homebrew coming out, but why hasn't Elite been targeted? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/293865-why-no-atari-8-bit-elite-homebrew/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) It has been but real life and a number of projects later leads to years.... Nothing wrong with parallel homebrew development though have at it! Edited July 26, 2019 by _The Doctor__ Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/293865-why-no-atari-8-bit-elite-homebrew/#findComment-4316896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Apparently not an important enough home-brew to those who were/are working on it to finish it before other projects. And not important enough to any other qualified programmers to give it a shot either. Since I've never played it, only seen screen-shots and played the ST version of it's sequel, Frontier a little, I'm not fully knowledgeable of it, but I believe there is already an alternative on the Atari, that I have started playing recently, as is pretty cool too: Universe by Omnitrend. http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-400-800-xl-xe-universe_5617.html 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/293865-why-no-atari-8-bit-elite-homebrew/#findComment-4316916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R0ger Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) Never heard about this one .. Anyway .. @Wratchild has gotten pretty close to porting it. Check his posts, he posted some demo recently somewhere here, IIRC. But many things have to come together for something like that happen. I plan to do completely new game of that genre, don't expect it before 2025 though Here is link to demo of my engine. I plan to remake it basically from the scratch, this was my first thing for Atari and I have come up with many improvements since then .. https://atariage.com/forums/topic/237244-rescue-3d-engine-demo Edited July 26, 2019 by R0ger 8 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/293865-why-no-atari-8-bit-elite-homebrew/#findComment-4317391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) Very nice indeed @R0ger ! I just checked out the video and will try the .XEX on a real machine tonight. I do like that you went with mode 7 for a smooth frame-rate. I always played the 48K version of Mercenary for it's smooth graphics. The 64K high-res version was just a bit too slow. OK if it was the only choice, but I am glad for the 48K version. Maybe high-res would be OK if it was done like Wilmunder's (sorry if I misspelled) Star Raiders II with dots...though I know SRII was dots in mode 7... In the mean-time I'll just enjoy UNIVERSE as a substitute for RESCUE and ELITE. Though it is a lot more of a text-based strategy, with some graphics, no real animation or anything. So maybe not as close to Elite as I first thought...still very cool simulation. Edited July 26, 2019 by Gunstar 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/293865-why-no-atari-8-bit-elite-homebrew/#findComment-4317413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmaOhneBH Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 13 hours ago, R0ger said: I plan to do completely new game of that genre, don't expect it before 2020 though You had a typo there - I fixed that for you, no problem ? 1 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/293865-why-no-atari-8-bit-elite-homebrew/#findComment-4317709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrathchild Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I've finally debugged why the circle drawing was corrupting and got stars to render too but still lots of hurdles to jump through as it suffers from random-death-triggers and rear view not showing the space station, but at least some progress... 17 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/293865-why-no-atari-8-bit-elite-homebrew/#findComment-4409554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrathchild Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I recorded a quick video as it would give a better impression than the single screen shot. It shows some of the things to do like remove the panel in non-Front/Rear/Side views, enable console rendering, mask off the 'E' and 'S' when they aren't needed, employ some DLIs to give more colour to the panel etc. Regards, Mark 31 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/293865-why-no-atari-8-bit-elite-homebrew/#findComment-4409650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Mark go Go Go.... 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/293865-why-no-atari-8-bit-elite-homebrew/#findComment-4410560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaanesh Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 Hey @Wrathchild that's looking pretty good. It's been a while since I posted this topic and it's also been a while since you posted the demo. Has there been any update? If you need a tester I'd be happy to do so, I can run it on real hardware both NTSC and PAL on my Atari 800XLs. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/293865-why-no-atari-8-bit-elite-homebrew/#findComment-4653099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodge Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) @Wrathchild Love the work you've put into this. Elite was one of those games that inspired me to take a career in the games industry back in the 90's. I always wanted an Atari version of it. Would you like any help with the project? Edited March 4, 2022 by dodge gramma 2 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/293865-why-no-atari-8-bit-elite-homebrew/#findComment-5015258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrathchild Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 13 hours ago, dodge said: Would you like any help with the project? Sure, I'll PM Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/293865-why-no-atari-8-bit-elite-homebrew/#findComment-5015689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Perhaps this new patch that removes flicker could be useful for Atari conversion: https://github.com/markmoxon/c64-elite-flicker-free 2 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/293865-why-no-atari-8-bit-elite-homebrew/#findComment-5118262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeblebrox Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 @Philsan Nice. Just checked it out For quick ref here is the new c64 flicker free: ... And the original : The flicker free version makes a real difference. Would love to see an A8 Elite finished. 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/293865-why-no-atari-8-bit-elite-homebrew/#findComment-5118268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxl Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 boom: record_000004.avi 4 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/293865-why-no-atari-8-bit-elite-homebrew/#findComment-5118289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeblebrox Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 (edited) Am intrigued. Downloades and watched the latter video XXL. This appears to be a sort of character graphics based version of Elite. Care to elaborate? Edited September 5, 2022 by Beeblebrox Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/293865-why-no-atari-8-bit-elite-homebrew/#findComment-5118363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxl Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, Beeblebrox said: This appears to be a sort of character graphics based version of Elite. no. this is normal apple graphics, 7 bits in reverse so it looks like this. you have to change the draw procedure and that's it ... 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/293865-why-no-atari-8-bit-elite-homebrew/#findComment-5118371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 That flicker free version MUST be running on a PAL system as I definitely see lots of flicker, just over everything now and not just the ships and planets... But if the 1mhz C64 can do a "flicker free" version of a 3D vector game, then surely a 1.77mhz Atari can easily achieve it. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/293865-why-no-atari-8-bit-elite-homebrew/#findComment-5118615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rensoup Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 13 hours ago, xxl said: boom: record_000004.avi 1.13 MB · 24 downloads So is it a modified version of Atari800 which runs an A2 executable ? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/293865-why-no-atari-8-bit-elite-homebrew/#findComment-5118666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxl Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 6 hours ago, rensoup said: So is it a modified version of Atari800 which runs an A2 executable ? some time ago I was playing running Apple 2 games on Atari ... it's not that difficult 9 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/293865-why-no-atari-8-bit-elite-homebrew/#findComment-5118778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rensoup Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 13 hours ago, xxl said: some time ago I was playing running Apple 2 games on Atari ... it's not that difficult Ah yes, cool stuff! So are you going to give it a try ? 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/293865-why-no-atari-8-bit-elite-homebrew/#findComment-5119048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrathchild Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 xxl did that in 2008 (or earlier) Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/293865-why-no-atari-8-bit-elite-homebrew/#findComment-5119413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rensoup Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 5 hours ago, Wrathchild said: xxl did that in 2008 (or earlier) hmm... so how long before we consider it hopeless ? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/293865-why-no-atari-8-bit-elite-homebrew/#findComment-5119576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrathchild Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 No cap, my Elite's far older 🤣 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/293865-why-no-atari-8-bit-elite-homebrew/#findComment-5119580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 XXL, is that on stock or accelerated expanded Atari with the Apple 2 emu? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/293865-why-no-atari-8-bit-elite-homebrew/#findComment-5200666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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