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charlie_jumper

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.) The Controller is cheap $ 20,- + Cables and Parts....

 

.) Looks good

 

.) Feels good

 

.) Is analog

 

.) has 4 Buttons insted of the Genesis/MegaDrive Controller

 

 

 

Is there any Interrest for the Tutorial?? 

 

Is it allowed to Post Links to other Webforums?

If so, i have to ask the User if it's OK to link the Tutorial.

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Here is the Tutoriallink:

 

https://circuit-board.de/forum/index.php/Thread/28726-NEO-GEO-Mini-Pad-auf-Vectrex-Mod-100-Analog-Unterstützung/

 

It is in German, but i`m shure that you figure it out somehow if you really interrested.

 

 

The Controller is not a Commercial Product, you have to mod it yourself or find someone to do the work for you.

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I built one, too, loosely from that tutorial/idea. In Contrast, I used spindle trimmers glued on the board, bent the outer legs of the pots upwards connected to there and I also drilled some holes (red circles in the image) to help route the cabling on the different sides of the pcb. Thus, I found it quite easy to assemble everything back into the case without cutting things from the case, and you can reach the spindle trimmers without removing the PCB from the case.

 

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Nice Work.

 

How does it feel while Playing?

 

Since the Controllers of the Neo Geo Mini are Cheap and brand new to get, i think it is a very good 4 Button Analog Controller for the System.

Maybe the MegaDrive/Genesis Controller is also good, but it isn`t Analog and i think the Button Layout is a Little bit odd....

 

PS:

Greetings to @vectrexroli .

I would love to see that Controllermod in one of your Videos.

Maybe i can arrange something to get you a Controller like that. (Sadly i can`t swing the soldering iron myself, so i have to outsource....)

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Would anyone in the United States be willing to sell me one of these? There's one person on ebay selling them, but shipping is like $32. This seems like the best option for me for an aftermarket Vectrex controller. I find that the joysticks on aftermarket Vectrex controllers are way too stiff / rigid and hurt my thumb, and interfere with my play abilities. I was thinking about getting the NES controller converted to work with Vectrex, but that is digital input only. 

 

For the record I'm looking for the best controller to play Vectorblade with. I find it very difficult to thread the needle of the little bullets in that game with a controller with a stiff joystick.

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On 7/10/2024 at 6:21 PM, Quetzalcoatl said:

Would anyone in the United States be willing to sell me one of these? There's one person on ebay selling them, but shipping is like $32. This seems like the best option for me for an aftermarket Vectrex controller. I find that the joysticks on aftermarket Vectrex controllers are way too stiff / rigid and hurt my thumb, and interfere with my play abilities. I was thinking about getting the NES controller converted to work with Vectrex, but that is digital input only. 

 

For the record I'm looking for the best controller to play Vectorblade with. I find it very difficult to thread the needle of the little bullets in that game with a controller with a stiff joystick.

Perhaps you need a Vectorlink adapter, and then you have the possibility of using many different joysticks depending on which game you are playing.

I find it hard sometimes to play shooters with handheld joysticks like this, so I'll use a tabletop arcade controller.  8BitDo sells a very nice wireless arcade controller that you can even modify if you want to.  I've done million point plus Vectorblade games on mine, getting to level 140-150.

 

http://playvectrex.com/vecstore/vectorlink  (manual, demo video, and recommended controllers here)

 

And there's also one currently on eBay.

 

If your fingers hurt mashing the buttons too much, you can try this controller which has a super light button feel, and you can play it flat on a table/desk and tap like you are typing.  Or hold it in your hands if you wish.  I like this one for Asteroids / Rocks 'n' Saucers.
https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Gamepad-Raspberry-Mobility-Gaming-Console/dp/B0B4D3LC21

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7 hours ago, playvectrex said:

Perhaps you need a Vectorlink adapter, and then you have the possibility of using many different joysticks depending on which game you are playing.

This is what I'm going to try next. I ended up buying the modded Neo Geo controller on ebay, as well as the modded NES controller from RetroGameBoyz. I suppose I figure that if I'm going to spend $75, I might as well get a controller with it for that much. Plus I'm hesitant to use wireless controllers on an old system like Vectrex since they add input lag. When are you going to make Vectorcades again? That's what I'd really want to order from you. 

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There's no noticeable input lag with Vectorlink.  The controller is updated at least twice as fast as the Vectrex polls the controller input.

I have probably $1000 of controllers to use with the Vectorlink, and I tend to use them all for various reasons on various games.

The Neo Geo is a great controller though.  I have two of them from Nicolas Weills, but his version is even fancier than the one linked above.  The buttons are nice, and the joystick is a really high quality analog joystick found in PS4 controllers.
That said, the short through thumb style stick is not always that accurate for games, even analog games.  I find it hard to accurately position my thumb left to right, verses pinching a joystick like the original Vectrex stick, and controlling that.
So while it's a great controller... it's not as good a for me as the Wii Classic Controller with the Vectorlink.  With that I can even pinch it and get some really high scores on games like Xmas Cart 2014 - Stocking Filler.

Also, 95% of all Vectrex games are digital input games, and a loose wide through analog stick is not actually that great for gaming.  A nice short action digital stick is preferred, whether that be an arcade stick, or even a SNES d-pad.
But you have a lot of options to find just the right controller for the game you are playing with Vectorlink.
You can also use most of the controllers that work with Vectorlink, with your phone or computer... and they work great for MAME and have little to no detectable lag.
I'm also thinking, if you are that sensitive to lag, and can detect it when playing NES Classic for example with an 8BitDo controller... you should definitely get yourself a much better controller than the one I'm about to talk about... 

But you're right, if you don't have much money... just any old controller will have to make do.  I would argue Vectrex is not the system for tight budgets though ;-) 
I would also argue if you pay $75 for the RetroGameBoyz NES controller, you wasted about $55. (if you have that much to spend, message Nicolas Weills about one of his controllers instead)
Button 1 and 2 aren't even buttons really... just little rubber start / select pads.  Sure most games don't use more than button 3 and 4, but even the built in game Mine Storm uses button 2.  A lot of games do use more of the buttons.
In the heat of gaming, you want an actual button to press... not a recessed option button... recessed for a reason to avoid pressing it by accident.

If you got Vectorlink, you can get 2 NES style controllers with 4 actual buttons for $17 total [I got them for $6 a while back] (not the best layout on the buttons, but it works well), or even 1 SNES classic awexome controller for $10 on aliexpress.
These are not the best... but if you are on a budget you can get started for little money.
These are my recommended controllers though for Vectorlink.

Anyhoo, just some thoughts.  If you want more thoughts just ask :D 

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