foft Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I just finished the schematic for the v2 version of pokeymax. This takes in feedback I received from the run I entered into the hardware contest last year. The changes I made are: i) Size reduced. Its now 21.4mm x 52mm, which should fix clearance issues in some arcade pcbs. ii) It will use better machined pins iii) Higher volume audio output iv) Removed the extra capacitors and resistors included on v1 in error. v) Faster pot reset vi) Added A5 pin to support quad mode vii) Added ext pin for explicit mono/stereo switching I'm getting some pcbs manufactured now and santosp kindly offered to assemble a couple. If these all work as expected I'll probably get a larger run manufactured. I'd like to work out the level of interest. Please will you reply to this thread with how many you'd be interested in purchasing? The price is likely to be about 50-60USD + shipping. For v1 see: https://atariage.com/forums/topic/282166-abbuc-hardware-contest-entry-pokeymax/ 7 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/295242-pokeymax-v2/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Hello foft Are you saying that the Pokeymax V2 will have quad POKEY built in? Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/295242-pokeymax-v2/#findComment-4335962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryleffaovell Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 10 hours ago, foft said: I'd like to work out the level of interest. Please will you reply to this thread with how many you'd be interested in purchasing? The price is likely to be about 50-60USD + shipping. I'd take five! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/295242-pokeymax-v2/#findComment-4336188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KlasO Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I’d be interested in somewhere from one to five, and I promise I’ll be more precise when you require a firm answer. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/295242-pokeymax-v2/#findComment-4336204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymanone Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) Hi Mark, sounds great?! I´m in with a minimum of two PokeyMAX v2. Thx., andY 15 hours ago, foft said: I'd like to work out the level of interest. Please will you reply to this thread with how many you'd be interested in purchasing? The price is likely to be about 50-60USD + shipping. Edited August 25, 2019 by andymanone Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/295242-pokeymax-v2/#findComment-4336281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrarkus Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Two minimum for me! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/295242-pokeymax-v2/#findComment-4336436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I think that I'd like to try putting a stereo board into one of my XLs at some point so a smaller footprint Pokeymax would probably be good for that. I also have a real Pokey in my CuttleCart 2 and would probably like to switch that out at some point too. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/295242-pokeymax-v2/#findComment-4336512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam242 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) I missed out last year, but I'm still interested in at least one. Has anyone put one in an 800? Any clearance issues with either the RF shield or other components on the board? Also, has the bug fix for Touch Tablet support been implemented on v2? Edited August 25, 2019 by adam242 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/295242-pokeymax-v2/#findComment-4336548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidcalgary29 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I’m in for one Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/295242-pokeymax-v2/#findComment-4336587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, adam242 said: I missed out last year, but I'm still interested in at least one. Has anyone put one in an 800? Any clearance issues with either the RF shield or other components on the board? Also, has the bug fix for Touch Tablet support been implemented on v2? Re clearance: There is a pin header for connecting audio out + ext pins. This could be left off it’s a problem. Wires could be directly soldered or a right angle header could be used. Do you know how much clearance there is? Re touch tablet: Yes the duplicate capacitors and resistors for paddle inputs have been removed. Edited August 26, 2019 by foft 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/295242-pokeymax-v2/#findComment-4336798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) OK, so far about 20-25: Sleepy: 2-3 Erhard: 2 Larryleffaovell: 5 KlasO: 1-5 andymanone: 2+ mrarkus: 2+ ss: 2 adam242: 1+ davidcalgary29: 1 foft: 2 santosp: 1+ (free!) Edited August 26, 2019 by foft Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/295242-pokeymax-v2/#findComment-4337036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Hello foft If you tell me if A5 is for selecting between two PokeyMax V2's or if it's for selecting between two halves of one Quad Pokey, I'll also take two. Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/295242-pokeymax-v2/#findComment-4337039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, Mathy said: Hello foft If you tell me if A5 is for selecting between two PokeyMax V2's or if it's for selecting between two halves of one Quad Pokey, I'll also take two. Sincerely Mathy Well I haven’t yet modified the core to the new hardware. Which do you think’ll be most fun: quad pokey or dual pokey + single sid? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/295242-pokeymax-v2/#findComment-4337050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunsen Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, foft said: Which do you think’ll be most fun: quad pokey or dual pokey + single sid? SID sounds playing out of my Atari would be cool. I would take 1-2. (1 Quad Pokeymax and probably 2 Dual Pokey/Single SID Pokeymax's) Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/295242-pokeymax-v2/#findComment-4337058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) Hello foft 42 minutes ago, foft said: Which do you think’ll be most fun: quad pokey or dual pokey + single sid? Quad Pokey, hands down. We wanna show the power of the Pokey/Atari, not SID/C64. Sincerely Mathy PS and we need Quad Pokeys for arcade machines. Edited August 26, 2019 by Mathy Typing error. Extra line of text added. 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/295242-pokeymax-v2/#findComment-4337075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 Updating: Sleepy: 2-3 Erhard: 2 Larryleffaovell: 5 KlasO: 1-5 andymanone: 2+ mrarkus: 2+ ss: 2 adam242: 1+ davidcalgary29: 1 foft: 2 dash_rendar: 3 Mathy: 2 Bunsen: 1-2 santosp: 1+ (free!) Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/295242-pokeymax-v2/#findComment-4337092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Mathy said: PS and we need Quad Pokeys for arcade machines. Do you have any idea of the pinout for the quad pokey? I lost it and can't find it by googling: 137324-1221 pinout I can't work it out from this! https://arcadefixit.com/product.sc?productId=281 edit: Ah, its here: https://atariage.com/forums/topic/257141-quadro-pokey-pcb-4x-for-tmc2/?do=findComment&comment=3988692 Edited August 26, 2019 by foft 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/295242-pokeymax-v2/#findComment-4337099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mono Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 I'd like to buy two pieces. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/295242-pokeymax-v2/#findComment-4337122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+tf_hh Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 On 8/26/2019 at 8:49 PM, foft said: Well I haven’t yet modified the core to the new hardware. Which do you think’ll be most fun: quad pokey or dual pokey + single sid? Quad pokey is useless, because absolute NO software exists IMHO. A single SID add-on would be very nice, and SID players are existing already IMHO, the polish (or czech?) guys made a cartridge with a real SID already. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/295242-pokeymax-v2/#findComment-4338039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+tf_hh Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 11:10 PM, foft said: I'd like to work out the level of interest. Please will you reply to this thread with how many you'd be interested in purchasing? The price is likely to be about 50-60USD + shipping. Count me in for 2 pieces, maybe more. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/295242-pokeymax-v2/#findComment-4338040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Hello Jürgen 2 hours ago, tf_hh said: Quad pokey is useless, because absolute NO software exists IMHO. A single SID add-on would be very nice, and SID players are existing already IMHO, the polish (or czech?) guys made a cartridge with a real SID already. ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Atari made hardware for which there was no software at the time of development and so did a lot of companies that made hardware for the Atari 8 bit computer and the same probably goes for some hardware from our own hardware contest. "There's no software to support that" is NO reason not to develop something. If the guys from Czechia or Poland or any other place in the world can write software to support a chip that wasn't even (intended to be) used in our computers, they sure as hell can write software to support four POKEYs, a chip that Atari developed for and used in their own 8 bit computers. I'm sorry if it seems like I'm pissed off, but reasoning like this gets us nowhere. And my blood boiling. Sincerely Mathy 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/295242-pokeymax-v2/#findComment-4338079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mono Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 TMC2 by Jaskier supports four POKEY-s IIRC. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/295242-pokeymax-v2/#findComment-4338084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Hello mono, guys A picture I found on the net: TMC2.zip And you can find more here. Like this: Sincerely Mathy 4 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/295242-pokeymax-v2/#findComment-4338100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share Posted August 28, 2019 Well perhaps I can do both quad pokey and dual sid:) I’m not sure yet how many logic elements sid takes. 5 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/295242-pokeymax-v2/#findComment-4338238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share Posted August 28, 2019 On 8/26/2019 at 9:57 PM, foft said: Updating: Sleepy: 2-3 Erhard: 2 Larryleffaovell: 5 KlasO: 1-5 andymanone: 2+ mrarkus: 2+ ss: 2 adam242: 1+ davidcalgary29: 1 foft: 2 dash_rendar: 3 Mathy: 2 Bunsen: 1-2 santosp: 1+ (free!) Mono: 2 tf_hh: 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/295242-pokeymax-v2/#findComment-4338242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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