Bill Loguidice Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Atari Flashback X (2019) - Upgrade to Support External USB Drives: https://armchairarcade.com/perspectives/2019/10/21/atari-flashback-x-2019-upgrade-to-support-external-usb-drives/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockar Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bill Loguidice said: Atari Flashback X (2019) - Upgrade to Support External USB Drives: https://armchairarcade.com/perspectives/2019/10/21/atari-flashback-x-2019-upgrade-to-support-external-usb-drives/ I will have to try this once I get a Y USB cable. Thanks Bill!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+original_gamer Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Thanks Bill! I already have a Y USB. I'll try this tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 For those asking, the X is running Stella 3.9.3. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarifan88 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 9 hours ago, Bill Loguidice said: For those asking, the X is running Stella 3.9.3. For comparisons sake, what version of Stella was on the FB9 Gold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) I havent looked deep into it but I think the retron 77 is working with stella 6 so I'm still leaning towards it as an hdmi atari emulation box. Even that will depend on what the collectorvision Phoenix can muster as far as their 2600 core can support, a console I should be receiving soon. I've always said that these flashbacks need a current stable version of stella and the ability to put my own roms on it for me to get on board. Paddle support is a plus too which I'm not sure the others mentioned do either. Edited October 22, 2019 by AtariLeaf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_from_the_80s Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 8 hours ago, atarifan88 said: For comparisons sake, what version of Stella was on the FB9 Gold? It's the same. 3.9.3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarifan88 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Brad_from_the_80s said: It's the same. 3.9.3 Good to know so there isn't any incentive for me to continue buying these things unless my FB9 stops working. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad5200 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Did they fix the delayed audio problem that is present in the HDMI FB9? Or does the X also have slightly delayed audio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarifan88 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 9 hours ago, chad5200 said: Did they fix the delayed audio problem that is present in the HDMI FB9? Or does the X also have slightly delayed audio? I have the FB9 Gold and there is not delayed audio problem. Maybe this is only present in the regular FB9 HDMI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoShedsWilson Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 8 hours ago, atarifan88 said: I have the FB9 Gold and there is not delayed audio problem. Maybe this is only present in the regular FB9 HDMI? I have the regular and I've not noticed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I suspect his FB9 is defective in some way (can't imagine in what way, though) since it appears to happen across multiple displays. There's no difference between any of the HDMI versions of the FB9. I really don't know what the solution might be in that case, especially if updating the firmware does nothing in regards to the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 More game lists for the new products to come over the next week... Full Game List for the AtGames Star Flashback Blast! (2019) https://armchairarcade.com/perspectives/2019/10/24/full-game-list-for-the-atgames-star-flashback-blast-2019/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Full Game List for the AtGames Adventure Flashback Blast! (2019) https://armchairarcade.com/perspectives/2019/10/25/full-game-list-for-the-atgames-adventure-flashback-blast-2019/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmygtr Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Atari Flashback X (2019) - Upgrade to Support External USB Drives: https://armchairarcade.com/perspectives/2019/10/21/atari-flashback-x-2019-upgrade-to-support-external-usb-drives/ Nice Bill. What version of Stella is being run on the X and can it be upgraded to 6.x if isn't alreadySent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmygtr Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 For those asking, the X is running Stella 3.9.3.Thank you Bill for confirming but [emoji3525]. I presume the hardware isn't prepared for 6.x?Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 17 minutes ago, Jimmygtr said: Thank you Bill for confirming but . I presume the hardware isn't prepared for 6.x? Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk It's my understanding it might be doable, but it would take a lot of effort. I don't personally know the challenges. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad5200 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 On 10/23/2019 at 6:13 AM, atarifan88 said: I have the FB9 Gold and there is not delayed audio problem. Maybe this is only present in the regular FB9 HDMI? I'm guessing you just haven't noticed the audio delay on the FB9. Pay close attention to all sounds. There is a slight delay. If someone can confirm that the Flashback X does not have any audio delay, then I'd gladly pick one up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmygtr Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Any chance the delay is tied to the TV or media system?Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jimmygtr said: Any chance the delay is tied to the TV or media system? Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk It looks like the slight audio delay in Pitfall has been confirmed internally, but it does indeed vary by display. An update is being planned. Edited October 27, 2019 by Bill Loguidice Typo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad5200 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Jimmygtr said: Any chance the delay is tied to the TV or media system? Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk No. The exact same TV using the same input with the same HDMI cable hooked to a Retron 77 does not have the audio delay. 59 minutes ago, Bill Loguidice said: It looks like the slight audio delay in Pitfall has been confirmed internally, but it does indeed vary by display. An update is being planned. That's great that they have confirmed it internally. All FB9 games have the issue, not just Pitfall. It even looks like the audio when moving around the menu system itself is delayed the same which leads me to believe that it is a delay problem overall with all audio on the Flashback 9. Hopefully they release a firmware update to minimize this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad5200 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) Here is a visual waveform analysis comparing the Retron 77 and the Flashback 9 HDMI. Using the same HDMI cable plugged into the same TV input. Also using the same Joystick. The ONLY difference is the Retron 77 vs. the Flashback 9. The spike at 3.00 is the pressing of the fire button... after that is the sound of Pitfall Harry jumping. The audio of the jumping sound on the Retron 77 plays .20 seconds after the button press. The audio of the jumping sound on the Flashback 9 plays .37 seconds after the button press. Edited October 27, 2019 by chad5200 typo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarifan88 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 8 hours ago, chad5200 said: I'm guessing you just haven't noticed the audio delay on the FB9. Pay close attention to all sounds. There is a slight delay. If someone can confirm that the Flashback X does not have any audio delay, then I'd gladly pick one up. Went back and played it again and no delay on my end. Not sure if it could be a delay in your TV. Did you set it to "game mode?" Good luck! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarifan88 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, chad5200 said: Here is a visual waveform analysis comparing the Retron 77 and the Flashback 9 HDMI. Using the same HDMI cable plugged into the same TV input. Also using the same Joystick. The ONLY difference is the Retron 77 vs. the Flashback 9. The spike at 3.00 is the pressing of the fire button... after that is the sound of Pitfall Harry jumping. The audio of the jumping sound on the Retron 77 plays .20 seconds after the button press. The audio of the jumping sound on the Flashback 9 plays .37 seconds after the button press. If you are complaining about less than a quarter second delay, I think that is being a little critical. Maybe that's why most people, including myself haven't noticed it. Do you experience any lag in the controller? That would be something which would make or break enjoyment of a game. Edited October 28, 2019 by atarifan88 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_from_the_80s Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 On 10/25/2019 at 7:12 PM, Bill Loguidice said: It's my understanding it might be doable, but it would take a lot of effort. I don't personally know the challenges. I have not tried compiling or running Stella 6 for the device so far, but I've poked around the FB 9 a bit. A few basic issues I've noticed. The version of SDL2 library on the device is compiled to use OpenGL library (as opposed to OpenGL ES), which is not present or supported on the device. Attempts to create an OpenGL ES screen through SDL fails because attempts but can't load full OpenGL. Bypassing SDL, attempts to run a test app linked against just OpenGL ES fails due to an X server abort. The kernel claims to be loading the Mali driver, but the included Mali user space driver is the X Window version, which would seem to have unnecessary performance dragging overhead were it even functional. I've not yet continued exploring to see whether this is resolvable via customization/configuration, but in basically stock state it seems it will not work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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