derSammler Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, Level42 said: UUuuuhhhh, since they were built ? You are either color-blind or - despite having written over 3.000 posts here so far - never actually seen an XL. They are BROWN. Edited November 15, 2021 by derSammler 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinsCool Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, derSammler said: You are either color-blind or - despite having written over 3.000 posts here so far - never actually seen an XL. They are BROWN. Proud owner of 2 800xl machines here, I worry I may be colourblind now because that definitely looks like black to me ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeblebrox Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 This reminds me of a classic Father Ted espisode: To my mind the 800 and 600 XL's keyboard's and upper case's surrounding the keyboard are just very dark brown, like dark chocolate. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, chooooocooolate.....aaarrrgghh!! But IMHO not true black. If people post pics of their's you'd also have to take into account lighting and phone camera's settings. This is one of my PAL 800XLs which is dark brown, especially when you compare it next to the Atari CX40 which is definitely black: I am not gonna lose any sleep over it though. ? 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oo7 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 I got my first 600xl when i was 5. Then shortly after a 1010 tape drive, then a 800 xl then a 1050, i still remember as a kid when i got the 1050 thinking hey this is brown not black. maybe the lighting where the xls were kept but for a while in the beginning im sure i thiught black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 11 hours ago, derSammler said: You are either color-blind or - despite having written over 3.000 posts here so far - never actually seen an XL. They are BROWN. Oh my God I’ve been laughing my pants of over the last days. its so easy to derail a thread here…. No, I’m not colourblind, quite opposite in fact. I have owned a 600XL from about the first day they were released here…and plenty othe XL machines and components later on. of course they’re brown…..see compared to my black Suzo joystick….clearly brown. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 19 hours ago, rensoup said: Patience, there may be one more release... Now _that_ is a message I cherish ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvas Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 52 minutes ago, Level42 said: Same color, what is the problem? 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 56 minutes ago, Level42 said: its so easy to derail a thread here…. We literally are the generation of ADHD from all the commercials on TV and playing the 'quick pick up and play video games' that were popular in the arcades and computers and consoles until there were .ore games that lasted longer and required more focus. So yeah, derailing threads come easy to all of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, jvas said: 2 hours ago, Level42 said: Same color, what is the problem? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Stephen said: I laughed way too hard at this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeblebrox Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Level42 said: @Level42 heh heh - touché! BTW that's a beautiful dark blue Suzo joystick you have there! Edited November 15, 2021 by Beeblebrox 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rensoup Posted November 15, 2021 Author Share Posted November 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Level42 said: Now _that_ is a message I cherish ! Just to be clear, it doesn't mean it'll fulfill your expectations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Beeblebrox said: @Level42 heh heh - touché! BTW that's a beautiful dark blue Suzo joystick you have there! Ha, so I was just thinking that the XL line being black was basically like how we call people from Africa as black. When mostly the pigmentations rarely are full on black, but are mostly anywhere from light brown to dark brown. But never are they dark blue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 10 hours ago, rensoup said: Just to be clear, it doesn't mean it'll fulfill your expectations! Rensoup are you male or female ? Because you sure know how to drive a man crazy ! ?? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 I can derail it a bit more... the 5200 and most of the cartridges are a dark brown as well. I didn't realize this until I looked at one under bright light and indeed that must made of the same pigment as the xl stuff in dark chocolate brown. However, not all of the carts are brown?! I've got a few Atari made 5200 carts that are darker and don't match the console's dark brown and do err on the side of being more black. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 The 1050's bezel around the the mech is brown, The face of the Tandon or World Storage Mech is black. The Indus GT is all black. Who cares? They're all nice drives (w/ upgrades) :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 19 minutes ago, Kyle22 said: The 1050's bezel around the the mech is brown, The face of the Tandon or World Storage Mech is black. The Indus GT is all black. Who cares? They're all nice drives (w/ upgrades) Every time I see Indus GT mentioned, I want to find one again... but as I have do many different drive emulators now, it would just sit on a shelf... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I like to use the real thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 11/15/2021 at 1:52 AM, derSammler said: You are either color-blind or - despite having written over 3.000 posts here so far - never actually seen an XL. They are BROWN. Never mind the brown, how long do I have to retrobright the rest of the case to get it back to white? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Kyle22 said: I like to use the real thing. I would as well, but tracking down floppy disks, writing them out, etc seems more of a pain than it is worth. I still have one container of disks for the 8bit from back in the day... I should see if my hacked Ultima IV is in there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+slx Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 hours ago, leech said: Every time I see Indus GT mentioned, I want to find one again... but as I have do many different drive emulators now, it would just sit on a shelf... Until the emulators get a speaker to make that tock-tock-tock sound of the drive head stepping, there's still some magic/nostalgia in using the real thing. I don't use them often but think I should use them more before my floppies crumble away. It would be great to have a Happy compatible ROM or uploadable software for the Indus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Mr Robot said: Never mind the brown, how long do I have to retrobright the rest of the case to get it back to white? 26 minutes and 18 seconds... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 34 minutes ago, slx said: Until the emulators get a speaker to make that tock-tock-tock sound of the drive head stepping, there's still some magic/nostalgia in using the real thing. I don't use them often but think I should use them more before my floppies crumble away. It would be great to have a Happy compatible ROM or uploadable software for the Indus. You can still buy Happy upgrades for the 1050 at least. Did anyone ever even make one for the Indus GT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 7 hours ago, slx said: Until the emulators get a speaker to make that tock-tock-tock sound of the drive head stepping, there's still some magic/nostalgia in using the real thing. I don't use them often but think I should use them more before my floppies crumble away. It would be great to have a Happy compatible ROM or uploadable software for the Indus. Forgot to add; my Gotek drives do indeed have a little buzzer that emulates the sound of the stepping motor. Haven't seen anything like that for the Atari 8bits, but the Ultimate 1541 II+ also makes sounds (that is a seriously awesome device for anyone with a C64/C128) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+slx Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, leech said: Forgot to add; my Gotek drives do indeed have a little buzzer that emulates the sound of the stepping motor. Haven't seen anything like that for the Atari 8bits, but the Ultimate 1541 II+ also makes sounds (that is a seriously awesome device for anyone with a C64/C128) Lack of simulated drive mechanic sounds on the Atari is probably owed to SIO beeps stealing attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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