+Intellivision Master Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Perhaps one day there will be a Sega Saturn and Dreamcast collection. But it'll depend on licensing and getting the games to run well on the console. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 5 hours ago, roots.genoa said: very arguable indeed, especially since the handhelds can be connected to a TV as well. It CAN be connected to the TV, but then you're playing solo from the handheld wired. Even ignoring the dual cartridge ports (which are of dubious value other than unlocking games), the VS is designed for easy multiplayer gaming on a TV. My point was not that, however, it was more the idea that providing additional controllers only benefits VS owners, which is likely the smallest percentage of owners between the three systems. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots.genoa Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Bill Loguidice said: It CAN be connected to the TV, but then you're playing solo from the handheld wired. Even ignoring the dual cartridge ports (which are of dubious value other than unlocking games), the VS is designed for easy multiplayer gaming on a TV. My point was not that, however, it was more the idea that providing additional controllers only benefits VS owners, which is likely the smallest percentage of owners between the three systems. Yeah I got your point. It's indeed hard to know if the VS sold very well or not. On one hand, it was released after the original model, so most of the audience was maybe already equipped and didn't want to buy another system (and also, most video games nerds have no friends, it's common knowledge 😉), but on the other hand, I feel like a lot of retrogamers prefer consoles to handhelds, at least here on AA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, roots.genoa said: Yeah I got your point. It's indeed hard to know if the VS sold very well or not. On one hand, it was released after the original model, so most of the audience was maybe already equipped and didn't want to buy another system (and also, most video games nerds have no friends, it's common knowledge 😉), but on the other hand, I feel like a lot of retrogamers prefer consoles to handhelds, at least here on AA. I know they can never give figures, but I'd be happy with percentages. With that said, if they gave percentages and it was unfavorable, then that too would not be a good business look for various reasons, particularly if the VS is say at 5% of the user base (not that I think it would be). My bad guesstimate is 60% original handheld, 20% VS, and 30% EXP, give or take 5% here or there and accounting for some overlap of multiple system owners (for instance, I have the original handheld, the EXP, the VS, and the Duke Nukem console). I tend to use the EXP more than the VS for convenience, but I do like to use an arcade stick on occasion on the VS, which does have that advantage. That advantage could of course grow if they ever do release other controllers or can somehow be made compatible with non-digital controllers. I suppose they could solve all of their "problems" by making the next version of the handheld not only have Bluetooth (should have already had it), among other needed upgrades, but also have an Analogue-like dock with four controller ports and maybe a second cartridge slot (assuming they don't just put it onboard the handheld). This way they could phase out all previous systems and standardize on the one. For those who want a console-like experience, they just get the dock add-on. Edited June 9, 2023 by Bill Loguidice 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Defender_2600 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 On 6/9/2023 at 4:43 PM, Bill Loguidice said: I suppose they could solve all of their "problems" by making the next version of the handheld not only have Bluetooth (should have already had it), among other needed upgrades, but also have an Analogue-like dock with four controller ports and maybe a second cartridge slot (assuming they don't just put it onboard the handheld). This way they could phase out all previous systems and standardize on the one. For those who want a console-like experience, they just get the dock add-on. In this case, there is still one problem that should not be underestimated, the battery is not replaceable. Also, the battery can die even if it is left completely discharged for a period of time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famicommander Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 My EXP wouldn't read my Team 17 cart at first. The cart comes with a little piece of paper that tells you to update the firmware, so I tried that. The firmware download kept stopping about 2/3 of the way through and rebooting the system. Tried it 4 or 5 times. So then I did a factory reset, then the update downloaded and installed properly, and then it read the cart. No issues I can see now. So yeah, if anybody else runs into that issue, a factory reset followed by an update fixed it for me. My VS and my original Evercade both read the cart out of the box without an issue, so I knew the cart was okay. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles N Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 On 6/1/2023 at 4:28 PM, jgkspsx said: EDIT: aaaaand gone, in 22 hours. Wow. This is very good news, even if frustrating for the individual collector who doesn’t get hold of one. When things are ripped from the shelves, it has a market, if it has a market it has a future. I’m wondering how long it will take other companies to get on board. (I was crazy enough to try to write to Taito… gutfeeling it never made it high up in The System - particularily since I wrote in my often rushed norwenglish, google-translated to japanese, did not translate their page before posting, and probably ended up posting it to their mailbox of the physical Taito-gamepark in Japan.😂🤪. However, I hope Taito and other of these major classic-companies will find their way to this market… even without my personal expertise and advice 😁). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles N Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 On 6/15/2023 at 9:29 PM, famicommander said: My EXP wouldn't read my Team 17 cart at first. My EXP died from battery-heat-failure. I even tried cryogenic revival in the fridge. Nothing. Dead. Sure there were premonitions: the Battery would never be full, only 3/4 green squares. The preinstalled games with horizontal playfield showed up fully TATE’ed… it was tough to watch… I mean what these software’s must have been through… what it must have been like for the Forgotten Worlds ROM - not only to be forgotten - but also to be forced to wear the wrong mode in front of staring gamer… and then ROMs hardware … all to die slowly in there from slow overheating… Man… guess I should have known that ‘Blaze’ wasn’t a randomly picked name. Perhaps Evercade FRY shouid to be the name for their next handheld? Not sure the Nuke-symbols on the limited-run thing really makes me all comfy after what my poor EXP went through… Like you insert the cable and … like booom - the entire Evercade Collection up in living-room nuclear explosion…??!!? Anyway… they tried… to get games out there… … good games… … nice games… … most of them innocent… … and they toasted them … and 200+ of my $s… too!! (Hrrrmfff!!) — Hope their next EXP runs will be a bit less of game-killing device than the one I got. Its like Evercade EXP-erience, not Evercade EXP-losion. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jgkspsx Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Giles N said: My EXP died from battery-heat-failure. Did you contact them? They’re pretty good about support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jgkspsx Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Giles N said: The preinstalled games with horizontal playfield showed up fully TATE’ed… it was tough to watch… If you hit the tate button in the main menu it defaults every game to tate mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles N Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, jgkspsx said: Did you contact them? They’re pretty good about support. That’s good. (On a serious note). I bought it on eBay from one who’d obtained it early, sold ‘like new’. It was sealed and all when I unpacked it, but difficult to see how Blaze could fix this individual problem as such. When I say bought it on eBay, I mean (also) - imported it from France to my country, taxes and all. — On a serious note, ensuring production-quality over time is important in a world of competition. Hope they’ve weeded out the worst problems. Typing in questions about Evercade EXP problems on Google, gave results including people who claimed it was well-known the first batches of EXPs had hardware-shortcomings. As I hope the Evercade will stay and grow, they need to provide something that makes companies like Konami, Taito, Bandai-Namco, perhaps Sega etc, wish to publish and stay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jgkspsx Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, Giles N said: It was sealed and all when I unpacked it, but difficult to see how Blaze could fix this individual problem as such. I would email them at support@evercade.co.uk and see if they can do anything. If it was sealed they will probably make it right somehow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots.genoa Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 8 hours ago, Giles N said: the Battery would never be full, only 3/4 green squares. Uh, I have the same problem with mine, so now I'm worried. 😰 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jgkspsx Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 7 hours ago, roots.genoa said: Uh, I have the same problem with mine, so now I'm worried. 😰 Mine fills up but it’s haunted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Intellivision Master Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, jgkspsx said: Mine fills up but it’s haunted. What do you mean by haunted? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jgkspsx Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Intellivision Master said: What do you mean by haunted? It will be at 100% for two hours and then go to one bar and stay there for two more hours. The game time tracker is also haunted… mostly it’s accurate, but sometimes I lose playtime even when I quit properly, and sometimes I get an extra twenty hours or so of playtime 😅 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Posted July 6, 2023 Author Share Posted July 6, 2023 Mine seems reliable, but as with any tech, there will always be bum units. Its a great machine, even if I like the originals aesthetics better, hope you guys get them fixed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Intellivision Master Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 18 hours ago, jgkspsx said: It will be at 100% for two hours and then go to one bar and stay there for two more hours. The game time tracker is also haunted… mostly it’s accurate, but sometimes I lose playtime even when I quit properly, and sometimes I get an extra twenty hours or so of playtime 😅 Sounds like your handheld is possessed. It has a ghost in the machine. Lol. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles N Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) On 7/5/2023 at 8:29 PM, jgkspsx said: but sometimes I lose playtime even when I quit properly, and sometimes I get an extra twenty hours Top men are on this right now… I guess. Top.Men. Edited July 7, 2023 by Giles N 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giles N Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) On 7/5/2023 at 9:01 AM, roots.genoa said: Uh, I have the same problem with mine, so now I'm worried. 😰 Just keep cool… don’t panic! Keep cool… and also your Evercade; keep it cool… very cool, - mostly play in the fridge… … when the special units from Blaze come to you… you should let the device be removed out of your hands by them… don’t try to give it to them, don’t play hero here… let them handle the physical transference… until Blaze Fire Team Elite is there… all you need to do is … don’t move. If you’re just absolutely still, it won’t go into chain-reaction FATE-mode… …keep cool, no worries 👍🏻 Edited July 7, 2023 by Giles N 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famicommander Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 So they essentially announced a budget Evercade today with those dedicated Taito and Capcom handhelds. They have an Evercade cartridge slot on them. Only 59 bucks and they come with games preinstalled, but the tradeoff is quality of the hardware (especially the screen) it seems. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaperman Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) Wow, I had to go look that up. I'm potentially down for both. Kind of puts me over the edge for more of the evercade carts I was on the fence about too. Nice little ecosystem. I already bought another OG evercade for the car, but if I didn't have that I'd totally keep one there. Best buy's the only US retailer though? No songbird(?). Amazon only for UK(?)--though I do mention US amazon has been getting flaky with evercade preorders. Edited July 12, 2023 by Reaperman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songbird Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Songbird will carry this. Pre-orders open in a couple days! 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Salamon Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Videogamesplus.ca has them listed for pre-orders that commence on Friday. I know I will pick up the Taito one... Capcom I already have those games on my Switch. But that Taito one... I'm excited for it. Plus, I'll have a perfect dust cover for my OG and or EXP! These units are shown as #1 and #2 on the side of the boxes... wonder what #3 and #4 will be in the new year? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jgkspsx Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Songbird said: Songbird will carry this. Pre-orders open in a couple days! Woohoo! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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