nadir Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Grabbed the latest download and despite me being terrible at Pac-Man, this really is amazing... TIA version is great, but the YM is perfect. I'd be willing to pay extra for whatever I'll need to run a hardware YM version! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandor Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 16 hours ago, nadir said: Grabbed the latest download and despite me being terrible at Pac-Man, this really is amazing... TIA version is great, but the YM is perfect. I'd be willing to pay extra for whatever I'll need to run a hardware YM version! Get a Dragonfly cart which has the option for a YM 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Gandor said: Get a Dragonfly cart which has the option for a YM This ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Gandor said: Get a Dragonfly cart which has the option for a YM While that is an option to play on actual hardware with Yamaha sound, it is an expensive one. Best to wait and see if @rj1307 develops a separate cart passthrough like device to handle that in the future as was discussed or the possibility of PCBs being developed to use the YM module on them similar to Pokey games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tep392 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 53 minutes ago, -^CrossBow^- said: While that is an option to play on actual hardware with Yamaha sound, it is an expensive one. Best to wait and see if @rj1307 develops a separate cart passthrough like device to handle that in the future as was discussed or the possibility of PCBs being developed to use the YM module on them similar to Pokey games. Interesting! Where did @rj1307 suggest he might do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, tep392 said: Interesting! Where did @rj1307 suggest he might do this? In this very thread, post #388: https://atariage.com/forums/topic/304268-pac-man-collection-40th-anniversary-edition/?do=findComment&comment=4758827 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, tep392 said: Interesting! Where did @rj1307 suggest he might do this? I've been searching for it, but I thought it was in this very thread, but I know I read it in one of @rj1307's replies asking about it. He stated something to the effect that creating a passthrough cart or having the module added to a cart separately should be possible and he could look into it? Still searching for it.... Found it. It starts with @DrVenkman suggesting the ability to create carts to add the YM module too for when the game releases, and then @rj1307 states he discussed this but it would have to wait until the detection routines are sorted. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, -^CrossBow^- said: I've been searching for it, but I thought it was in this very thread, but I know I read it in one of @rj1307's replies asking about it. He stated something to the effect that creating a passthrough cart or having the module added to a cart separately should be possible and he could look into it? Still searching for it.... See my reply, immediately above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 minute ago, DrVenkman said: See my reply, immediately above. LOL I was in the middle of the search and reading the posts when you posted that. I was then notified of your reply just above this after I submitted LOL! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tep392 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 On 2/20/2021 at 3:42 PM, rj1307 said: Can you detect YM with IRQ? All you need to do is set the appropriate register in YM and check if an interrupt occurred. My idea is to set one of the timers, which set flags when they roll over. Then poll the flag until it changes and make sure it changes at the right time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 I only remembered because I had been involved in the conversation. This collection deserves a cart, and the YM audio deserves to be heard! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rj1307 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 I confirm it, soon I will develop an adapter with the YM2151 module, it will work with any cartridge (homebrew, Concerto, CC2, Mateos). There will probably be two versions, one in the "old" through-hole technology, matching the case from the original game, the other version in SMD technology, a smaller one, matching the case from 3D printing. Both versions will have identical functionality. I will publish the documentation of both versions on the forum, anyone who will be able to make the same adapter. For those who cannot, I will have ready-made SMD versions for sale. 12 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacManPlus Posted March 20, 2021 Author Share Posted March 20, 2021 20 hours ago, tep392 said: My idea is to set one of the timers, which set flags when they roll over. Then poll the flag until it changes and make sure it changes at the right time. Is there an example of this somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tep392 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 hour ago, PacManPlus said: Is there an example of this somewhere? No, but I did make some notes this week on how to do it. I'll definitely have time to try it out tonight. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevEng Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 4:29 PM, rj1307 said: I confirm it, soon I will develop an adapter with the YM2151 module, it will work with any cartridge (homebrew, Concerto, CC2, Mateos). [...] This is a very cool development, which makes the future of YM2151 usage in games a lot brighter. Thank-you! 7 hours ago, tep392 said: No, but I did make some notes this week on how to do it. I'll definitely have time to try it out tonight. Thanks Perry! I'd love to try out whatever you come up with in A7800 and the in-progress 7800 MiSTer core. I suspect the former will need some rework before the detection works. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tep392 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 I just got the timer working, so I'm half way there. Using it to flash the screen color right now. It works on my XM but not on A7800. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tep392 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 10 hours ago, RevEng said: This is a very cool development, which makes the future of YM2151 usage in games a lot brighter. Thank-you! Thanks Perry! I'd love to try out whatever you come up with in A7800 and the in-progress 7800 MiSTer core. I suspect the former will need some rework before the detection works. I think I got it. I sent you and Bob a PM. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacManPlus Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) Hi guys! Ok, thanks to @tep392 and @RevEng, I have used their detection code and made one version of PMC-40th. It detects the Yamaha in A7800, the XM, and the Dragonfly, but correctly does not in ProSystem and the CCII (no Yamaha) - it defaults to TIA. However, during the detection routine just before the initial main screen, there are 1-2 frames of garbage that I can't seem to get rid of, even by turning off the screen. It bugs me, but between having two versions of the cart and having a quick glitch just before the first time the title screen comes up, I'll take the latter. Last (Hopefully) version. PMC_XM.A78 PMC_XM.BIN Edited March 25, 2021 by PacManPlus 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Trebor Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 hour ago, PacManPlus said: Ok, thanks to @tep392 and @RevEng, I have used their detection code and made one version of PMC-40th. It detects the Yamaha in A7800, the XM, and the Dragonfly, but correctly does not in ProSystem and the CCII (no Yamaha) - it defaults to TIA. Also, can confirm it plays beautifully with TIA sound on the Concerto 1 hour ago, PacManPlus said: However, during the detection routine just before the initial main screen, there are 1-2 frames of garbage that I can't seem to get rid of, even by turning off the screen. It bugs me, but between having two versions of the cart and having a quick glitch just before the first time the title screen comes up, I'll take the latter. Think of it more like the Arcade machine powering up with the initial ROM checks it runs before booting to title, but blazingly faster. It is extremely quick and quite honestly, if it wasn't mentioned, not sure anyone would have been the wiser. Don't give it a second thought, Bob. Looking forward to purchasing this one on cart! 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianC Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Hi. I have been playing this incredible hack lately and I noticed a freeze when playing Pac-Man Plus in this collection on the dragonfly. So far, I have only encountered this in Pac-Man Plus. I'll test on Mister and emu to see if I can repeat it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianC Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Had it freeze in Ms. Pac-Man too. My PSU got hot with the Dragonfly, so that might be the issue. No lockups in mister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler172 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 9:29 PM, rj1307 said: I confirm it, soon I will develop an adapter with the YM2151 module, it will work with any cartridge (homebrew, Concerto, CC2, Mateos). There will probably be two versions, one in the "old" through-hole technology, matching the case from the original game, the other version in SMD technology, a smaller one, matching the case from 3D printing. Both versions will have identical functionality. I will publish the documentation of both versions on the forum, anyone who will be able to make the same adapter. For those who cannot, I will have ready-made SMD versions for sale. count me in for one of each ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacManPlus Posted April 19, 2021 Author Share Posted April 19, 2021 Good Morning: 6 hours ago, BrianC said: Hi. I have been playing this incredible hack lately and I noticed a freeze when playing Pac-Man Plus in this collection on the dragonfly. So far, I have only encountered this in Pac-Man Plus. I'll test on Mister and emu to see if I can repeat it. 4 hours ago, BrianC said: Had it freeze in Ms. Pac-Man too. My PSU got hot with the Dragonfly, so that might be the issue. No lockups in mister. Thank you so much for the compliments! (Although it isn't a hack, it's a homebrew ) Can you tell me at what point the crash happened? Was it during normal gameplay, or after clearing a board, or after dying, or ? Thank you, Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Jesus, Bob, Roids still keeping you up? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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