Mathy Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Hello guys Would it be possible to install something that supports TNFS on a NAS? I'd like to use my Synology NAS if and when I ever get a FujiNet adaptor. No, I'm not gonna buy a Raspberry Pi or whatever just so that I can run FujiNet. It's either my NAS or nothing at all! Please restrain from trying to convince me otherwise. Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SenorRossie Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Mathy said: Would it be possible to install something that supports TNFS on a NAS? I'd like to use my Synology NAS if and when I ever get a FujiNet adaptor. A Synology NAS is based on Linux, so it should be easy enough to create a package that can be installed on your NAS. There is already a community that provides a lot of packages: https://synocommunity.com/packages, maybe someone there is willing to build and maintain the tnfs package? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Hi Mathy! tnfsd has very few dependencies, and you can grab the source, here: https://github.com/spectrumero/spectranet/tree/master/tnfs/tnfsd and it builds using make OS=LINUX There are no real dependencies other than the standard POSIX libraries. once built, you have a tnfsd that you can copy into a /usr/local/sbin somewhere and run it. tnfsd /directory Injecting it as a system service is an exercise for the reader. -Thom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) Hello Thom Could you please translate that into simple English? Especially the lower half of what you wrote. Sincerely Mathy PS looks like I need windows to compile this. The only windows I use are the ones that let the sunlight in... Edited March 30, 2020 by Mathy Add the "PS" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 You will need to look at how to compile software for your NAS. -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookt Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Hey Matty Which NAS do you have and what CPU does it run? I *may* be able to build a package for you. I did this a long time ago for something else. Synology provide a quite nice build and packaging environment for any 64 bit Linux which you can use. I can try and build it for my NAS but I don't have much to test it with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 I'm biting my lip really hard to not gripe here slightly about demands of "it must run on X" -Thom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookt Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, tschak909 said: I'm biting my lip really hard to not gripe here slightly about demands of "it must run on X" -Thom Sorry? Not sure I understand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 nevermind -Thom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+David_P Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 I'm having a vision of an XEGS, no keyboard, with a SIDE running TNFS as a headless server Guess I have some learning to do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) Hey spooks 59 minutes ago, spookt said: Hey Matty Which NAS do you have and what CPU does it run? DS412+ CPU: Intel Atom Dual Core 2.13 GHz, with floating point RAM Size: DDR3 1 GB Thanks! Sincerely Mathy PS a memory upgrade to 4 GB is planned/ordered. Edited March 30, 2020 by Mathy Moved some stuff around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mathy said: Hey spooks DS412+ CPU: Intel Atom Dual Core 2.13 GHz, with floating point RAM Size: DDR3 1 GB Thanks! Sincerely Mathy PS a memory upgrade to 4 GB is planned/ordered. Ok, so basically take the linux binary from here, and put it in /usr/local/sbin and see if you can run it: http://spectrum.alioth.net/downloads/tnfs-linux-x86.tar.gz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 Hello Thom I got to the point where I can read the README.TXT (Maybe somebody could update that one too. It speaks of the ZX only), but have no clue where to place "tnfsd" and how to get it there. Maybe somebody can make this look like it came from Synology's Package Center? Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 I have a Windows XPe based NAS. As soon as I replace the bad hard drive in it I want to try this. Is there a link to a Win32 build? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, Kyle22 said: I have a Windows XPe based NAS. As soon as I replace the bad hard drive in it I want to try this. Is there a link to a Win32 build? http://spectrum.alioth.net/doc/index.php/TNFS_server Builds for linux, windows, MacOS, etc. -Thom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, tschak909 said: http://spectrum.alioth.net/doc/index.php/TNFS_server Builds for linux, windows, MacOS, etc. -Thom Thanx. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Mathy said: Hello Thom I got to the point where I can read the README.TXT (Maybe somebody could update that one too. It speaks of the ZX only), but have no clue where to place "tnfsd" and how to get it there. Maybe somebody can make this look like it came from Synology's Package Center? Sincerely Mathy Yup, if I can get more off my plate, I will try to get the development tools that can make packages. They make you jump through hoops to get the development kit. -Thom 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookt Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, tschak909 said: Yup, if I can get more off my plate, I will try to get the development tools that can make packages. They make you jump through hoops to get the development kit. -Thom Here is the DSM 6.0 developer guide: https://global.download.synology.com/download/Document/Software/DeveloperGuide/Firmware/DSM/6.0/enu/DSM_Developer_Guide_6_0.pdf It walks through the process of setting up a dev environment on any 64bit Linux platform and how to build and package software for the different Synology architectures. Edited March 31, 2020 by spookt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamm Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 3 hours ago, spookt said: Here is the DSM 6.0 developer guide: https://global.download.synology.com/download/Document/Software/DeveloperGuide/Firmware/DSM/6.0/enu/DSM_Developer_Guide_6_0.pdf It walks through the process of setting up a dev environment on any 64bit Linux platform and how to build and package software for the different Synology architectures. Have you tried setting up the current build environment? How difficult is it to set up? I imagine once you actually have the build environment set up, then it wouldn't be relatively easy to build TNFSD from sources here: http://spectrum.alioth.net/svn/ That's assuming the Linux binary that Thom linked to above doesn't work? Is there enough guidance in the docs to suggest how/where to get that binary placed in the Synology filesystem? Or how to take that binary and create a user-friendly Synology package out of it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookt Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 24 minutes ago, jamm said: Have you tried setting up the current build environment? How difficult is it to set up? I imagine once you actually have the build environment set up, then it wouldn't be relatively easy to build TNFSD from sources here: http://spectrum.alioth.net/svn/ That's assuming the Linux binary that Thom linked to above doesn't work? Is there enough guidance in the docs to suggest how/where to get that binary placed in the Synology filesystem? Or how to take that binary and create a user-friendly Synology package out of it? I’ve got as far as installing the dev system for the target architecture of my NAS which was very easy following the document I linked., Haven’t got any further yet as real life got in the way! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamm Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, spookt said: I’ve got as far as installing the dev system for the target architecture of my NAS which was very easy following the document I linked., Haven’t got any further yet as real life got in the way! Totally understandable! Do report back if/when you get further - I'm sure at least Mathy would be very interested in the results. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 Thanks guys! Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Brentarian Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 On 3/29/2020 at 2:57 PM, Mathy said: Would it be possible to install something that supports TNFS on a NAS? I'd like to use my Synology NAS if and when I ever get a FujiNet adaptor. Mathy, What Synology model do you have? I started looking at the dev kit last night and am going to attempt to get TNFS working on my DS212j this weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orpheuswaking Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 On 3/30/2020 at 6:04 PM, Mathy said: DS412+ CPU: Intel Atom Dual Core 2.13 GHz, with floating point RAM Size: DDR3 1 GB Thanks! Sincerely Mathy PS a memory upgrade to 4 GB is planned/ordered. @Brentarian Mathy posted this a little further back in the thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Brentarian Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 1 minute ago, orpheuswaking said: @Brentarian Mathy posted this a little further back in the thread Doh! I sure did miss that. Thanks! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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