veggiewolf Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 AFAIK all the promotional advertising mentioned the cost in it. Or at least, it was provided. Those who reported the story or ran the press release may not have included it. In any case, I don't see how many people could have just "run across it," and if you showed up at the door it was pretty easy to explain what it was and you could see the arcade Lowering the price IS good. Only if it draws more attendees, though. I thought the price point was pretty fair. Well, I do admit that the VF convention center isn't something one stumbles across on a walk. But, what about the people attending the computer show next door? How many of them decided against coming in because of the price? How many people read the ads in the paper and decided against it when they found out it would cost $60 to bring the whole family? Again, just thoughts - but were I not a devoted gamer, the price would have put ME off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xot Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Well, I do admit that the VF convention center isn't something one stumbles across on a walk. But, what about the people attending the computer show next door? How many of them decided against coming in because of the price? How many people read the ads in the paper and decided against it when they found out it would cost $60 to bring the whole family? Again, just thoughts - but were I not a devoted gamer, the price would have put ME off. All good points. But for the most part I don't think PC is intended for the average joe looking to take his kids out for the afternoon. And that's part of the appeal. It's "The East Coast Classic Gamer's Event." Casual gamers really aren't the targer audience. If PC wants to appeal to that larger audience (and if recent events are any indication, they do) then the price MUST drop for it to be successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
as_the_gavel_falls Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 The whois says phillyclassic/david newman - last update 2/2003. I checked netsol and godaddy. Not that it's not obviously a cheap hack, who cares, etc. Of course, they'd prob' be wise not to host their webserver on their primary nameserver. ADMIN EDIT: While this is public information that can be found elsewhere, I have removed it out on request of privacy. I hope you all can understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caitiff Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 I may be just some n00b in here, but something doesn't seem right. For instance, who the hell do you think you are by throwing out someone else's personal information out online like this? There's a reason people don't do this crap to each other. That reason, and I'm going to use small words, just so you can understand me, is that anyone can do anything with that information. People just plain don't do that sh*t to each other. I happen to know as a certainty that you've violated at least one federal law, and, most likely, a few rules in the ToS that you agreed to follow when you joined these forums. So, i ask one more time. For the record, exactly who the hell do you think you are to do that? You owe this David Newman an apology. Plain and simple. And, not one of those horsesh*t apologies tht people do these days. He deserves a real, heartfelt apology that you seem to be too damn immature to ever form. Grow up. People like you are why people don't join message boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquid_sky Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 there is nothing illigal about an ARIN WHOIS lookup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caitiff Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Then, I stand corrected on that one point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquid_sky Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 its basically a public information lookup service.. check it out http://www.arin.net/ just enter the URL minus the http://www in the search box and hit enter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManFan Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Well, I got this from him (sent to everyone on the PC list, so I'm guessing that it's OK to reprint it) : From: David Newman <davidnewman9@yahoo.com> To: phillyclassic@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:57:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [phillyclassic] Website Hi everyone: By now, there's been such a whirlwind over this incident... We're on it, and will update you as things develop. -- David I'd expect the same statement from corporate WWE about Linda McMahon being attacked by Kane. (In other words, this BS is meaningless, no offense Dave. Give us a REAL answer, not an "update as things develop.") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Monkey Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Then, I stand corrected on that one point. That WAS your point... How many new members has this topic netted AA so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaXpress Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 If the goal of this marketing campaign was to create massive annoyance, then mission accomplished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Monkey Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 If the goal of this marketing campaign was to create massive annoyance, then mission accomplished. Everyones' gots' to advertise! Subway gots Jarrod Dell gots... fuck I don't even want to think about Dell.. Game Jam gots Rugbydirt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 How many new members will has this topic netted AA so far? Well, it doesn't appear that all the new members are actually UNIQUE individuals. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
as_the_gavel_falls Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Oy yoy yoy, what did I do this time? What a maroon. -Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z28in82 Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Well I hate to sound like the cynic here but I have lost just bout all interest in going to PC5/gamejam or whatever the hell they wanna call this thing. I'm sad to say this cause I had such a GREAT time and met so many great people at PC4 but the longer this whole "hacked" thing last the more I am losing interest in the whole event. I guess there will be AGE next year to go to, right AL? :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 I think, sometimes we are taking our hobby way too serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snider-man Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 I think, sometimes we are taking our hobby way too serious.If you think *this* is serious, my father is a Civil War recreationist complete with authentic uniform and equipment - period correct and everything - and I have several friends in the Society for Creative Anachronism. THAT, my friend, is taking a hobby too seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkoffgirl Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 How many new members will has this topic netted AA so far? Well, it doesn't appear that all the new members are actually UNIQUE individuals. ..Al And I bet this Caitiff isn't, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSmirk Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 How many new members has this topic netted AA so far? I was thinking the same thing.....and they all seem to be in favor of whatever PC/GameJam is doing! Good deal for them! Yeah,yeah this is generating alot of *cough* buzz..... if you want to even say that, but not everyone believes that ol' "there is no such thing as negative publicity" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManFan Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 I have several friends in the Society for Creative Anachronism. THAT, my friend, is taking a hobby too seriously. SCA are pricks. I tried hanging with those cats when I lived in Michigan, but they push re-creation beyond recreation into a place where it's not even for fun any more, and they are a bunch of racist bigots to boot. I wouldn't even begin to compare anybody in PC to them, that's too low to go in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 I think, sometimes we are taking our hobby way too serious. I've been saying that for a long time now and evertime I do I get evil stares thrown in my direction. Honestly people, everyone just needs to lighten up! Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snider-man Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Honestly people, everyone just needs to lighten up! I can't resist a good "Stripes" set-up.... Now, any of you homos .. touch me .. and I'll kill ya." Lighten up, Francis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Well..this is all being done in Fun now....if you take another look at the page. All the demands were changed again. Now it must take place in Little Rock Arkansas...and within the year of 1969 or something like that. I am starting to get amused by this now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinistarr Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 I think, sometimes we are taking our hobby way too serious. I agree! Time to just "push away" folks! -- posted this on the PhillyClassic Group at Yahoo too -- It was mostly a reply to Ed Siegler... While the VF is a pretty nice place to hold a show - unless you have access to a car there is nothing to do in KofP after 9:00pm. The lodging options are weak as well as the eateries. As for cost issues, I would swear that the "hacker" mentioned cutting the admission cost in 1/2. So, even if the show were to move into the center of Philly it won't cost you any more to attend - prolly even less (I'm guessing by 1/2 to be exact). As for your concerns regarding the higher costs to run the show in "downtown Philly" - I imagine that PC dev. team is very thankful for your concern. My hats off to the geniuses behind the scenes for building excitement about the show at this stage. I would recommend sitting back, putting you feet up, sharpen you Warlord skills and enjoy the ride. And if that can't happen - then email David and Co. and see how you can be involved in the planning committee (pony up some $$$ to have a say? If you attended PC4 last year, I'm betting you'll attend PC? this year too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinistarr Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Hey y'all. While everyone here is discussing the firestorm that is PC5 - let's not take anything away from this weekends AGE show! From everything they have listed on their site (http://www.austingamingexpo.com/) this looks like it will be a fantastic show. Great sponsors, guests, tournaments and all for a GREAT price. Very professional indeed! (are the other "shows" taking notes??) My hats off to the entire team at AGE for bringing this all together. The "classic gaming" circut could use another classy show! The more the merrier! Can't wait to hear the response, read to (tall) tales, see the pics! Kick ass guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phosphor Dot Fossils Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Now it must take place in Little Rock Arkansas. It shall henceforth be known as the Mega ARkansas Gaming Expo - or MARGE for short. Hey, now there's an idea... :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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