+sramirez2008 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 42 minutes ago, Trebor said: Mateos requires a headerless ROM with the correct respective file extension. Please try this one: Danger Zone Alpha5bc (POKEY 4000).48P 48 kB · 4 downloads *EDIT: Depending on when a particular Matoes cart was obtained and/or if it was updated, the cart may (not) support the needed format: The below spoilers contains a list of the extensions and formats that should be supported by all Matoes carts: Reveal hidden contents Final note...All extensions have to be in upper caser letters. Darn! Guess I don't have the right one. Downloaded your ROM and it still behaves the same. The splash screen displays with the plane flying by, without sound and only the Pause button works (black & white). Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/312637-danger-zone-done/page/2/#findComment-4665122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+chicgamer Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Okay, my cart probably isn't compatible. I think I have the fifth cart Mateos produced, and he mentioned sending it back to him to be updated, but I didn't manage to do this before his absence. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/312637-danger-zone-done/page/2/#findComment-4665147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, chicgamer said: Okay, my cart probably isn't compatible. I think I have the fifth cart Mateos produced, and he mentioned sending it back to him to be updated, but I didn't manage to do this before his absence. Hmm. I don't know how many he made, but mine is #48 and the board has V3.0 stamped on it. Maybe my burner needs the firmware upgrade. I would still the ROM. You never know. @-^CrossBow^- Waiting to hear if it works on your Mateos. One of three wouldn't be so bad. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/312637-danger-zone-done/page/2/#findComment-4665151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Muddyfunster Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 Mateos issues aside, the following configuration options are in and working and I'll post Beta 1 on Thursday. The first option noted for each item is the default value. They can be mixed and matched in any game. fuel unlimited / limited ammo - unlimited / 30 / 20 / 10 gun range - normal / long guided ammo - yes / no bullet wrap - yes / no game type Timed Game 2:00, 1:30, 3:00, Scored Game 5pts, 10pts, 20pts (these are just until I decide what to have. These feel pretty good in testing though - open to feedback). Win conditions for all game types are checked and working - Victory screen is in. I have some gfx block space left so I'll use that to give the win screen some polish. For now I've removed saving to HSC & XM as I needed the rom space. I've also removed the "reset to defaults" for now. I'm happy to sacrifice loading & saving to get the better collision detection in. (running out of rom space ). If I have space, I'll bring them back. So functionally, Beta 1 will be pretty much complete except for the new collision detection and some polish on the UI. 5 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/312637-danger-zone-done/page/2/#findComment-4665159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 No, I get the same results as you except that the delays in my AV equipment turning on don't show the plan so when I get an image, I only have the AA logo and no audio. Pause works to put the screen into black and white and then press pause again to bring it back to color. So again, the CPU doesn't appear to halt during this routine. @Muddyfunster just to see if the Pokey addressing has something to do with it, can you remove the pokey side of it just to see if we can get the game to come up? That would at least confirm if the pokey code is actually the issue? 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/312637-danger-zone-done/page/2/#findComment-4665160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Muddyfunster Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, -^CrossBow^- said: @Muddyfunster just to see if the Pokey addressing has something to do with it, can you remove the pokey side of it just to see if we can get the game to come up? That would at least confirm if the pokey code is actually the issue? Yep, no problem. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/312637-danger-zone-done/page/2/#findComment-4665167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SearsRoebuck Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 This would interest me - but one question - will this be a 2 player only game like the original Combat? maybe my only gripe about that game is I rarely have another person to play it with me. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/312637-danger-zone-done/page/2/#findComment-4665258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Muddyfunster Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 15 hours ago, SearsRoebuck said: This would interest me - but one question - will this be a 2 player only game like the original Combat? maybe my only gripe about that game is I rarely have another person to play it with me. The plan is for it to be a 2 player only game (sorry!). Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/312637-danger-zone-done/page/2/#findComment-4665763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinks Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 If I had friends that played Atari that still werealive in real life we would play. So I would buy the game and then impersonate my old friends..problem solved!! Armour ambush with my brother was fun too... 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/312637-danger-zone-done/page/2/#findComment-4666616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Muddyfunster Posted October 31, 2020 Author Share Posted October 31, 2020 Little update : We have a "win screen" and logic to check who won or whether the match was drawn. Also the new collision code is working perfectly - I just need to work out all of the hit elements for each plane and cram that in to the rom space that's left. It's gonna be tight @-^CrossBow^- haven't forgotten, will post a Pokeyless version later - just been a bit "in the zone" with my collision experiments (and cheers @RevEng) 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/312637-danger-zone-done/page/2/#findComment-4666814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 No worries, most of us have plenty to play, test, or do in the meantime. I know for a fact that I do! And I don't even know if removing the pokeycode will get the game going further or not through the Mateos cart. It just seemed like a quick dirty hack to see if that might be an issue is all? As long a there is a way that you and at least a few others can test it on real metal hardware, that is what is most important. 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/312637-danger-zone-done/page/2/#findComment-4666845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Muddyfunster Posted October 31, 2020 Author Share Posted October 31, 2020 It runs fine with POKEY on the Dragonfly and real hardware, but I would definitely like more tests on real hardware. The more the merrier ! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/312637-danger-zone-done/page/2/#findComment-4667055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Muddyfunster Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 @-^CrossBow^- @sramirez2008 I think I've found why it was hanging on the AA Splash on Mateos. The code waits for the tune to finish before proceeding. If it doesn't finish (because it didn't start) then it won't proceed. Simple fix = I've added a short timer so either that or the music finishing will nudge things to the next routine. I'll drop 2 Beta's later, one with this fix and one without. I expect the beta without to not work on Mateos (will "hang"). The one with, should work but probably with no Pokey sound, but at least it won't hang on the splash screen. If that plays out as I think it will, then I'll add some "no pokey" code to fix that permanently. Lets see The Beta will be pretty much everything except the new collision code which is working but not implemented yet. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/312637-danger-zone-done/page/2/#findComment-4667567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 ? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/312637-danger-zone-done/page/2/#findComment-4667718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrekMD Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 This looks really good! 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/312637-danger-zone-done/page/2/#findComment-4667774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Muddyfunster Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 This is Beta 4. All play options are included. New features: Limited ammo game tweaked : chose either 30, 20 or 10 shots. when both players are out, 5 more shots are awarded to each player. (may add a timer here give ammo after x seconds to stop a player getting a lead and not shooting to refill ammo). UI, UI only shows the elements in your game. If you choose any game that is not timed, or has unlimited ammo or fuel then those UI elements are not shown (as they are not needed). Unless there are any major bugs or balance issues, I only plan to make a couple more changes : New bullet collision code isn't in yet : collisions in this version are quite loose -(the new code is basically pixel perfect - next beta!). Change the UI colours to white / light for night time games (sorry, they are still grey for now!). Would appreciate feedback some balance items: Plane speeds - are they too fast, too slow, just right ? Boost speed - are they too fast, too slow, just right ? Bullet speed - are they too fast, too slow, just right? Any other feedback is welcome! Danger Zone Beta 4.bas.a78 Danger Zone Beta 4 - Stall Fix Mateos.bas.a78 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/312637-danger-zone-done/page/2/#findComment-4667830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 I can confirm that the “Mateos Fix” ROM does in-fact work with the Mateos.? I have to run, but will test and provide feedback later. 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/312637-danger-zone-done/page/2/#findComment-4667888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Muddyfunster Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 Very good Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/312637-danger-zone-done/page/2/#findComment-4667891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 4 hours ago, Muddyfunster said: Would appreciate feedback some balance items: Plane speeds - are they too fast, too slow, just right ? Boost speed - are they too fast, too slow, just right ? Bullet speed - are they too fast, too slow, just right? Overall plane speeds feel good. Can you increase the Boost Speed a tad? We both felt that there needs to be a bit more of a difference between boost and slowdown Can you also increase the bullet speed a tad? During "Night" play, can you change the color of the bullets. Maybe its the colors on my 7800, but it was not easy to make out the bullets (would like to hear from others what they see/think) Really liking this game. The planes look great and the game has good balance and controls. The dog fights are lots of fun and the variations lend to replay as well. We both agreed that this will be a big hit during our Atari Game Nights (whenever we're able to resume them). Thanks for making a "Mateos" version of the ROM.? 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/312637-danger-zone-done/page/2/#findComment-4668031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Muddyfunster Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 @sramirez2008 great point about the bullets in night mode. I'll look at that when I do the UI night mode colours. Boost speed and bullet speed I'll look into. The Boost speed is actually nearly dead on the original, but I wasn't sure whether to tweak and I'm glad you mentioned it. I'll add them both to the tweak list. Thanks for taking the time to test and provide feedback - always appreciated. ?️? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/312637-danger-zone-done/page/2/#findComment-4668075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 @MuddyfunsterThank you! We’re really liking the game Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/312637-danger-zone-done/page/2/#findComment-4668084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 There was a fixed mateos rom released? I'm not seeing that? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/312637-danger-zone-done/page/2/#findComment-4668245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevEng Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Post #41 above has an attachment with the fix. ("Danger Zone Beta 4 - Stall Fix Mateos.bas.a78") Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/312637-danger-zone-done/page/2/#findComment-4668269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 9 hours ago, RevEng said: Post #41 above has an attachment with the fix. ("Danger Zone Beta 4 - Stall Fix Mateos.bas.a78") Ah I missed that as my computer/browser doesn't show the entire name of the file. On my screen they both say "Danger Zone Beta 4 -" and that is about it. If I mouse hover over them to look at the links then I can see them. I will see about trying it out later tonight although in my case, I'm the only player on Atari...hehe 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/312637-danger-zone-done/page/2/#findComment-4668475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, -^CrossBow^- said: Ah I missed that as my computer/browser doesn't show the entire name of the file. On my screen they both say "Danger Zone Beta 4 -" and that is about it. If I mouse hover over them to look at the links then I can see them. I will see about trying it out later tonight although in my case, I'm the only player on Atari...hehe @-^CrossBow^-Hmm...this could be another use for the PlusCart. If each of us had one and the ROM were set up to work with PlusCart, we could actually play against one another, while testing. How cool would that be!? Edited November 2, 2020 by sramirez2008 miss-spelling 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/312637-danger-zone-done/page/2/#findComment-4668546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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