+Karl G Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 43 minutes ago, Ataribud56 said: Hi, New to concerto. Loaded eeprom and hbios per instructions posted on this thread via harmony application. Load cart in console and it tells me software updated successfully. Reboot console. Try to open rom and it tells me file type unrecognized. Need help please!! What ROM did you try? Did you try more than one? You will want to use the ROMs with the .a78 extension, as these have headers that tell Concerto information about the ROM it is loading. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, Karl G said: What ROM did you try? Did you try more than one? You will want to use the ROMs with the .a78 extension, as these have headers that tell Concerto information about the ROM it is loading. These are good points. Also, if you're trying to load 2600 games, the extension should be .bin. For a pretty much full collection of commercial 2600 titles that are known to be good, take a look here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ataribud56 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, Karl G said: What ROM did you try? Did you try more than one? You will want to use the ROMs with the .a78 extension, as these have headers that tell Concerto information about the ROM it is loading. Hi, thanks for reply. Yes, tried many of them. One some it looms like it tries to load (yin yang looking icon) and then goes to a weird screen. All roms are .a78. Followed install instruction to a T. Help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ataribud56 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, x=usr(1536) said: These are good points. Also, if you're trying to load 2600 games, the extension should be .bin. For a pretty much full collection of commercial 2600 titles that are known to be good, take a look here. Thanks. Have not tried to load 2600 as I have another flash cart for the 2600 and it works fine in my 7800. So would like the concerto just for 7800 roms. This thing is finicky! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, Ataribud56 said: Thanks. Have not tried to load 2600 as I have another flash cart for the 2600 and it works fine in my 7800. So would like the concerto just for 7800 roms. This thing is finicky! Got it. Dumb question: which firmware version did you install, and what size and spec is the SD card you're using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ataribud56 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 19 minutes ago, x=usr(1536) said: Got it. Dumb question: which firmware version did you install, and what size and spec is the SD card you're using? Appreciate your help. I am following the instructions in attached pic, posted July 9. It all seems to go well and then when it tells me that software was updated I either try to turn the console off or press a button and still get the files not recognized error. I do have to say that I do not get the ‘concerto firmware 0.96 daily build 7822’ at the top of the screen like it says at the bottom of these instructions. I have tried the process about a dozen times! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+batari Posted July 24, 2022 Author Share Posted July 24, 2022 10 hours ago, Ataribud56 said: Hi, New to concerto. Loaded eeprom and hbios per instructions posted on this thread via harmony application. Load cart in console and it tells me software updated successfully. Reboot console. Try to open rom and it tells me file type unrecognized. Need help please!! That screen is from the Harmony cart BIOS, so it appears that you might have installed Harmony BIOS on your Concerto? The updater will search for the first file it finds that starts with "hbios" so it looks to me like you had an old Harmony cart BIOS file on there. I would delete all "hbios" files and try the update again with only the Concerto BIOS on the card. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ataribud56 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 5 hours ago, batari said: That screen is from the Harmony cart BIOS, so it appears that you might have installed Harmony BIOS on your Concerto? The updater will search for the first file it finds that starts with "hbios" so it looks to me like you had an old Harmony cart BIOS file on there. I would delete all "hbios" files and try the update again with only the Concerto BIOS on the card. Oh my, I got that bios from the Concerto thread, installed with the harmony software. This is frustrating. Is there a link to the concerto bios please? Or a full set of instructions on how to set up a concerto flash cart once it is mailed to you? I got a $100 flash cart inside a plastic bag with zero instructions. At least put a sticky note inside with something to get folks going…??♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 29 minutes ago, Ataribud56 said: Oh my, I got that bios from the Concerto thread, installed with the harmony software. This is frustrating. Is there a link to the concerto bios please? Or a full set of instructions on how to set up a concerto flash cart once it is mailed to you? I got a $100 flash cart inside a plastic bag with zero instructions. At least put a sticky note inside with something to get folks going…??♂️ OK, let's sanity-check this just to be on the safe side. Remove all hbios* files from the SD card as @batari recommended. Check this post for the files you need. There are three key paragraphs in that post: In the Harmony programming software, go to the EEPROM loader section and select the included eeloader_NTSC.bin (or similar) file, and click "download EEPROM". Make sure the download goes to 100%, and fully completes (text on the bottom of the window should indicate a successful download). Retry if it does not fully complete. If the eeloader_NTSC.bin file is missing, obtain it from this post or directly here. Copy the latest firmware posted file, hbios_concerto_build_7822.bin, to the root directory of your SD card. Make sure there are no other files starting with "hbios" on the card, or it may load that one instead. Report back with what happens. I'm a bit puzzled by what's going on, since those are the exact steps I (and others) have followed, and haven't run into the issues that you're seeing. The files listed above have also been checked for accuracy and they are the correct ones. Not saying that they're not happening - they certainly appear to be - but let's double-check that everything is clear and configured before moving on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Trebor Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 57 minutes ago, x=usr(1536) said: I'm a bit puzzled by what's going on, since those are the exact steps I (and others) have followed, and haven't run into the issues that you're seeing. From what Ataribud56 has posted... The Yin-Yang is only seen with the 7800 Harmony Concerto when flashing the firmware. If the Yin-Yang is still being seen (Instead of a slowly changing colors background screen) when loading a ROM: a. The firmware did not flash successfully or something else is awry. b. The firmware flashed to the 7800 Harmony Concerto was for either the 2600 Harmony Melody or original 2600 Harmony. It seems "b." is more than likely the case, as batari mentioned in this post. The "Unrecognized file type" screenshot Ataribud56 posted is for the 2600 version of Harmony (Melody): The "Unrecognized file type" message for the 7800 version of Harmony Concerto: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Trebor Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Ataribud56 said: Is there a link to the concerto bios please? Or a full set of instructions on how to set up a concerto flash cart once it is mailed to you? Taken from this post: =============================================== Use the Harmony programming software: -Linux 64-bit: https://github.com/sa666666/harmonycart/releases/download/release-1.3/harmonycart_1.3-1_amd64.deb -OSX: https://github.com/sa666666/harmonycart/releases/download/release-1.3/HarmonyCart-1.3-macosx.dmg -Windows: https://github.com/sa666666/harmonycart/releases/download/release-1.3/HarmonyCart-1.3-win32.exe Plug in the Concerto with your micro-USB cable, then start the software. Generally, your OS will automatically find and install drivers. If the OS does not automatically install the drivers when the Concerto is plugged in with a micro-USB cable, leverage the following links: -Green PCB (newer) Concertos use CH341 drivers (Downloads are also posted here by batari). -Purple PCB (older) Concertos use the FTDI drivers. If you are having issues, there is a newer version (2.0 beta 2) of the Harmony programming software, located here: -Linux -Mac OS X -Windows 64-bit After installing the Harmony programming software, a reboot may be necessary for the cart to be recognized. Depending on when you bought your cart, you may need to remove the POKEY chip so the software can properly communicate. In the Harmony programming software, go to the EEPROM loader section and select the included eeloader_NTSC.bin (or similar) file, and click "download EEPROM". Make sure the download goes to 100%, and fully completes (text on the bottom of the window should indicate a successful download). Retry if it does not fully complete. If the eeloader_NTSC.bin file is missing, obtain it from this post or directly here. Copy the latest firmware posted file, hbios_concerto_build_7822.bin, to the root directory of your SD card. Make sure there are no other files starting with "hbios" on the card, or it may load that one instead. Insert the card into Concerto and boot. It will boot into Harmony mode and update the firmware, and when it completes, it will show a success screen and ask you to press a button to continue. Instead of pressing a button, you should reboot the 7800. Now your new BIOS is installed, and the top of the screen will read: Concerto firmware 0.96 daily build 7822. =============================================== 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Trebor said: From what Ataribud56 has posted... The Yin-Yang is only seen with the 7800 Harmony Concerto when flashing the firmware. If the Yin-Yang is still being seen (Instead of a slowly changing colors background screen) when loading a ROM: a. The firmware did not flash successfully or something else is awry. b. The firmware flashed to the 7800 Harmony Concerto was for either the 2600 Harmony Melody or original 2600 Harmony. It seems "b." is more than likely the case, as batari mentioned in this post. The "Unrecognized file type" screenshot Ataribud56 posted is for the 2600 version of Harmony (Melody): The "Unrecognized file type" message for the 7800 version of Harmony Concerto: No, I'm with you on all of that. When I said, "I'm a bit puzzled," what I was referring to was how he was getting the Harmony error and not the Concerto one. Having multiple hbios files on the card makes perfect sense - I just hadn't yet made that connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ataribud56 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 36 minutes ago, x=usr(1536) said: No, I'm with you on all of that. When I said, "I'm a bit puzzled," what I was referring to was how he was getting the Harmony error and not the Concerto one. Having multiple hbios files on the card makes perfect sense - I just hadn't yet made that connection. Thank you all. My issue was that the CH341 driver was being recognized by mac. So used the harmony program instead. When loading the bios file, I was going to the harmony program, instead of my downloads to grab the concerto bios. That fixed that issue! Tested several games and seems to be fine. But The froggo games, water ski and tank command, do not work. I guess it is a known bug and will be fixed with future upgrades? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Trebor Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, Ataribud56 said: ...The froggo games, water ski and tank command, do not work... Use the "Overdump 78SG Hack" files from the 'Hacks' folder in the PROPack collection for the Froggo games, as well as for Tower Toppler and RealSports Baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KylJoy Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Hey there. I tried the daily build and it seems I have to use a FAT formatted SD for it to work, not FAT32. Is this right? I didn't see a reference to that anywhere but I may have missed it. Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Trebor Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 52 minutes ago, KylJoy said: Hey there. I tried the daily build and it seems I have to use a FAT formatted SD for it to work, not FAT32. Is this right? I didn't see a reference to that anywhere but I may have missed it. Thanks in advance! My 32GB SanDisk Ultra PLUS, Class 10, 130 MB/s, is formatted FAT32 and works without issue. I used it straight from the brand new packaging without formatting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+batari Posted August 11, 2022 Author Share Posted August 11, 2022 Hello all, Attached is another daily build to try. hbios_concerto_0.96_build_72822_NTSC.bin This build has the following changes: Much faster booting Revised 144k scheme (please test Alien Brigade!) Support for POKEY @0800 in 144k Utility menu improvements (particularly, the ability to change some menu settings and save them.) Some of these changes are experimental, so I want feedback about how they work across a multitude of consoles, such as the faster booting, and the functionality to change the settings. To access the configuration menu, select the wrench on the top of the screen. Please note that currently you can only change menu colors at this time, but more settings will come later when it is shown the save/restore functions work across all systems. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 26 minutes ago, batari said: This build has the following changes: Much faster booting Revised 144k scheme (please test Alien Brigade!) Support for POKEY @0800 in 144k Utility menu improvements (particularly, the ability to change some menu settings and save them.) Thanks for the updated BIOS to test! ALIEN BRIGADE now loads for me, so that's great progress. However, there are some TIA sound artifacts - some odd, bum tones during the title screen animations, and at least sometime, a stuck "rumble" sound during playback, which persists through to the little "cinematic" cut-scene between levels. I did minimal testing though - more in the coming days. Any other titles we should specifically check? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecernosoft Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Hey, does 0.96 support Pokey@450? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecernosoft Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 I think Al forgot to add the edit feature, someone please let him know for me. 😃 (Just fixed my concerto, phew!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecernosoft Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Also, that build works on my Stock atari 7800 (RF only) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecernosoft Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Edit: NTSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Ecernosoft said: I think Al forgot to add the edit feature, someone please let him know for me. 😃 (Just fixed my concerto, phew!) The edit feature seems to have been moved from a dedicated button to the little context menu you should see by your own posts: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecernosoft Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Good. Too bad that button scrolls off-screen when you scroll down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecernosoft Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Nevermind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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