+Gemintronic Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 My point still stands: the community needs to be ready if they pull the password restore technique we use. It's okay to be an enthusiast AND have a backup plan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zzip Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 On 6/12/2022 at 12:29 AM, Clint Thompson said: Gamestop VCS. Tried using the AtariCelebrates password and it's not working, which is super annoying. Anyone know the password right before this one or what I should be doing/trying otherwise? Thanks There is a reset procedure. It's posted in another thread, I'll see if I can find it. Basically you download recovery media and put it on a flash drive and boot from it. You then want to downgrade the BIOS and Atari OS. This will cause it to set the Atari Celebrates password and reupgrade to the latest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, zzip said: There is a reset procedure. It's posted in another thread, I'll see if I can find it. Basically you download recovery media and put it on a flash drive and boot from it. You then want to downgrade the BIOS and Atari OS. This will cause it to set the Atari Celebrates password and reupgrade to the latest. The password just reminds me of how horrible fonts are, as C3l3br8te is not the same as C313br8te Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadiATIon Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 18 hours ago, Clint Thompson said: Question now is, every time it does an update automatically is it going to prevent from accessing the BIOS moving forward? No once you do the manipulation you will keep access to the bios. There you have to do it because on the batch of Gamestop Onyx vcs the password is unknown. Once you did it, you can modify or cancel the password. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 17 hours ago, Clint Thompson said: If we're really being fair, Atari themselves said that was one of the benefits of getting the VCS and was a selling point for the hackers in mind, so in all fairness... lol They just said you could dual boot, install Windows, Linux, etc. They didn't say anything about being able to disable secure boot and tweak the BIOS settings. It was rather amusing that the initial password was actually hacked. They gave out the 50th year anniversary one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 20 hours ago, Clint Thompson said: Thanks for the info everyone. Unfortunately I'll have to save this for another weekend when time permits. Question now is, every time it does an update automatically is it going to prevent from accessing the BIOS moving forward? Seems more of a hassle and annoyance than anything really. I suppose once you have things setup the way you want them it's whatever but still. No once you fix the password, it shouldn't revert. The instructions for fixing the password can be found in the current thread, post #347 on page 14 20 hours ago, Clint Thompson said: If we're really being fair, Atari themselves said that was one of the benefits of getting the VCS and was a selling point for the hackers in mind, so in all fairness... lol Yeah it's a confusing message. There are likely legal reasons for them to enable secureboot. Also supposedly you can create your own keys and sign bootloaders with them so they are compatible with secureboot on your PC. Finding clear instructions on how to do that isn't simple though, and turning off secureboot is the easier option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCX_PIG73 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Hello all- I'm sorry to dig up a old thread but I just purchased a VCS and getting into it. I bought it with a Kinhank USB game drive thinking it would be easy/kinda is but could use help. I'm at the point where I flashed the firmware to turn off secure boot- it applied fine, I removed the password and changed the setting. On boot of the Kinhank drive it starts Batocera then goes blank/that's it, if I boot into the Atari OS it starts to pull an update (4 updates to be exact) and applies them. THe bato drive is fine on my old laptop, any suggestions I know I'm close and it feels like something stupid. Appreciate this thread and various pw's/info- saved sooo much time!! Hoping we can have a repeat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernes821 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Does anyone know the newest bios password for Atari vcs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrZarniwoop Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 In case people end up in this thread which is somewhat outdated: the current Atari VCS firmware doesn't seem to allow any of the known supervisor passwords. Jumping the BIOS chip still worked for me, but if you ask Atari support for the BIOS password they'll have you reflash the BIOS to a prior update which is way more convenient. Their response to me: Quote Some users have reported not being able to use the password and flashing the OS has fixed the issue, to try this, please follow the next steps.It can take a bit of time to download and write the file to the USB drive but is otherwise a very straightforward process. Please follow the instructions in the Google Document inside this folder: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1pgC39vlSaK-8am4cbGKLgQrnKILRU1iK?usp=sharingThe file listed as "atari-flasher" is the OS image, just right-click it and hit download, then follow the steps in the document to flash the VCS.Once done, use the password:Atar!C3l3br8te$50Ye4r$Once the password is accepted please make sure to change the administrator password to one you can remember easily or leave blank to completely remove it.Kind regards,Atari Support It worked just fine for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 On 6/16/2022 at 5:33 PM, DCX_PIG73 said: Hello all- I'm sorry to dig up a old thread but I just purchased a VCS and getting into it. I bought it with a Kinhank USB game drive thinking it would be easy/kinda is but could use help. I'm at the point where I flashed the firmware to turn off secure boot- it applied fine, I removed the password and changed the setting. On boot of the Kinhank drive it starts Batocera then goes blank/that's it, if I boot into the Atari OS it starts to pull an update (4 updates to be exact) and applies them. THe bato drive is fine on my old laptop, any suggestions I know I'm close and it feels like something stupid. Appreciate this thread and various pw's/info- saved sooo much time!! Hoping we can have a repeat I don't know if this will help, but I made a Batocera image, booted it on my VCS successfully, but then tried booting it on my main PC and nothing... I wonder if Batocera configures itself to the first PC you plug it into? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 59 minutes ago, zzip said: I don't know if this will help, but I made a Batocera image, booted it on my VCS successfully, but then tried booting it on my main PC and nothing... I wonder if Batocera configures itself to the first PC you plug it into? There are pieces that sometimes get installed int to UEFI bits. So you would want to boot from a liveUSB and use the procedures to recover the boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemaster4975955 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 As the title says, I changed the password for the bios, and now there is no video output. How can i fix this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 is that the only thing you changed in in the BIOS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemaster4975955 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) No. I changed the boot to dual (legacy + uefi) Edited December 12, 2022 by Gemaster4975955 Had to update post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martink Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 So we still have to downgrade as the new password never leaked… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 6 hours ago, martink said: So we still have to downgrade as the new password never leaked… Is there a new password? Mine is up to date, and I think that password still works fine. Though I haven't tried it in a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 27 minutes ago, leech said: Is there a new password? Mine is up to date, and I think that password still works fine. Though I haven't tried it in a while. If there was a new password, the BIOS updates should have repaced the "atari celebrates" one on everybody's system. This seems more like something went wrong with the flashing process in manufacturing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 hour ago, zzip said: If there was a new password, the BIOS updates should have repaced the "atari celebrates" one on everybody's system. This seems more like something went wrong with the flashing process in manufacturing. That'd be my guess as well. I wonder when my second one is going to show up, and if I'll have any issues with that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martink Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 12/16/2022 at 10:04 PM, zzip said: This seems more like something went wrong with the flashing process in manufacturing. Well that would be more the annoying. Currently I try to downgrade my BIOS and even that isn't working as as expected. Of course that the password contains special characters which might be different depending on keyboard layout doesn't help. Can anyone be so kind as to post the keystrokes needed to type the password? Like using 'Shift-1' instead of '!'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martink Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Finally got into the BIOS. Hint: The Password needs to be typed in with US American keyboard layout. If you, like me, are used to another keyboard layout the password is full of traps. I needed ≈8 attempts and 3 reboots to get everything right. Double and triple check with a USA keyboard layout at hand. Just knowing that it's a USA keyboard doesn't mean you won't still subconsciously make mistakes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Thompson Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 With the news of the VCS manufacturing being discontinued, I have yet to upgrade and use my VCS due to the BIOS password. I know of the two, and apparently the only way to install W10 is to get into BIOS to change UEFI settings so that it's legacy but I can't do this without the password. Are there any others aside from Atari Celebrate and Piano? Neither worked for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 4 hours ago, Clint Thompson said: With the news of the VCS manufacturing being discontinued, I have yet to upgrade and use my VCS due to the BIOS password. I know of the two, and apparently the only way to install W10 is to get into BIOS to change UEFI settings so that it's legacy but I can't do this without the password. Are there any others aside from Atari Celebrate and Piano? Neither worked for me. Those are the only two I have heard of. Where was it announced that they are discontinuing manufacturing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrZarniwoop Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Clint Thompson said: Are there any others aside from Atari Celebrate and Piano? Neither worked for me. Refresh the BIOS per instructions from Atari. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 13 hours ago, Clint Thompson said: With the news of the VCS manufacturing being discontinued, I have yet to upgrade and use my VCS due to the BIOS password. I know of the two, and apparently the only way to install W10 is to get into BIOS to change UEFI settings so that it's legacy but I can't do this without the password. Are there any others aside from Atari Celebrate and Piano? Neither worked for me. If Atari Celebrate doesn't work, you should probably go through the flashing process, that's documented in these boards. It will downgrade your BIOS/OS, set the correct (Celebrate) password and apply the latest updates. 9 hours ago, leech said: Those are the only two I have heard of. Where was it announced that they are discontinuing manufacturing? The Atari person here says it's because they have enough stock for now. The press of course is doom and gloom about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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