Synthpopalooza Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 All in-game sounds will use AUDCTL=$61. Only the title music uses AUDCTL=$50 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/315930-you-guys-can-thank-uniwars-for-this-one-galaxian/page/3/#findComment-4728301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Insert coin Also uses AUDCTL=$50 galaxian-coin.A78 galaxian-coin.asm galaxian-coin.bin 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/315930-you-guys-can-thank-uniwars-for-this-one-galaxian/page/3/#findComment-4728311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, PacManPlus said: Thanks Guys! @Synthpopalooza - I'd really like to keep this "one or the other", as my attempts to write an audio driver that uses both Pokey and TIA have not resulted in success (too many cycles). So two things: - I'm guessing nobody minds the change from 24 rotational positions to 16? - Nobody is getting the 'no new level' bug any more? It would be nice if this had TIA sound as that would make cartridges much more plentiful and cost effective. You add a POKEY and (as you know) the price goes way up and ease of distribution to the masses to play on actual 7800 machines goes way down. Perhaps a TIA version and then a POKEY version so folks could pick their pleasure? Just a thought. Edited January 18, 2021 by Shawn 4 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/315930-you-guys-can-thank-uniwars-for-this-one-galaxian/page/3/#findComment-4728315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 A ROM sale could also be an option, locked to a SD cart feature, that can be detected and utitilized. If the resource is not available to use, the ROM is useless, unless someone spends a bunch of time, trying to refactor critical elements of the code and replace them. It would also be pretty easy to make a tool, that runs code injection on a final ROM and makes them all unique, with unique signatures. I think some of the Jaguar dudes are doing something similar. 5 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/315930-you-guys-can-thank-uniwars-for-this-one-galaxian/page/3/#findComment-4728368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mksmith Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 @PacManPlus @Synthpopalooza Sent you guys a message in regards to the latest player code. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/315930-you-guys-can-thank-uniwars-for-this-one-galaxian/page/3/#findComment-4728409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 We could always have both sets of sounds. Which one gets used depends on if POKEY is detected by hardware. OK, I have a question ... it's in regards to that background hum. The arcade version does it on two channels, in a loop. For our purposes, we have two options: 1. Only use second channel for the loop (with a -1 in the frequency data) and 4th channel for player shots and player's ship exploding. first and third channels @1.79 mhz are for alien swoops and alien deaths 2. Use second and fourth channels for the loop, and player explosions in the 4th channel will take precedence in that channel. Have the program restart the loop when finished rather than use -1 frequency, so that it will reset itself when there's no sounds in that channel. I'd like to use option 2. Would that be a possibility? If not, I will work up the first scenario. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/315930-you-guys-can-thank-uniwars-for-this-one-galaxian/page/3/#findComment-4728513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) Alien death #1 This one uses $Cx non mod 3 on the third channel @1.79 mhz. It fits perfectly into that range and sounds just like the arcade! As before: Prosystem, or real hardware. A7800 won't play it right. The Boss galaxian alien death is going to have to be transposed up about three semitones to fit in. The low note is at G4 but frequency 255 at $Cx 1.79 is A#4 galaxian-aliendeath1.A78 galaxian-aliendeath1.asm galaxian-aliendeath1.bin Edited January 18, 2021 by Synthpopalooza 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/315930-you-guys-can-thank-uniwars-for-this-one-galaxian/page/3/#findComment-4728569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 OK, first off ... boss galaxian death, this version, I simply dropped out the out of range frequencies. How does it sound? galaxian-aliendeath2.A78 galaxian-aliendeath2.asm galaxian-aliendeath2.bin 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/315930-you-guys-can-thank-uniwars-for-this-one-galaxian/page/3/#findComment-4728590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 25 minutes ago, Synthpopalooza said: As before: Prosystem... ProSystem should really be retired from usage. Outside of its POKEY chip support for some obscure and undocumented sound usage, its actual console emulation is very outdated with many inaccuracies and hacks. Besides, those still clamoring for ProSystem's interface, BupSystem plays the file fine. JS7800 inherited all the same POKEY support from the ProSystem emulator and can be heard clicking here; it is actively supported and contains much better console emulation than the latter. Additionally, it is OS independent. MAC and Linux user can easily utilize it as well. 25 minutes ago, Synthpopalooza said: ...or real hardware. I was going to provide real hardware sample. POKEY $4000 only; I've got silence with the MCP DevCart. 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/315930-you-guys-can-thank-uniwars-for-this-one-galaxian/page/3/#findComment-4728595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) This one, I played a 255 frequency instead of dropping the notes. Trebor: I will get you $450 for the other ones ASAP. Title jingle has $450 binaries though galaxian-aliendeath2a.A78 galaxian-aliendeath2a.asm galaxian-aliendeath2a.bin Edited January 18, 2021 by Synthpopalooza 4 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/315930-you-guys-can-thank-uniwars-for-this-one-galaxian/page/3/#findComment-4728596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) galaxian-coin-450.A78 galaxian-coin-450.asm galaxian-coin-450.bin galaxian-start-450.A78 galaxian-start-450.asm galaxian-start-450.bin galaxian-aliendeath2-450.bin galaxian-aliendeath2a-450.A78 galaxian-aliendeath2a-450.asm galaxian-aliendeath2a-450.bin galaxian-aliendeath2-450.A78 galaxian-aliendeath2-450.asm galaxian-aliendeath1-450.A78 galaxian-aliendeath1-450.asm galaxian-aliendeath1-450.bin $450 binaries for all the game sounds done so far. Also seconded: JS7800 for all of these, please Edited January 18, 2021 by Synthpopalooza 4 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/315930-you-guys-can-thank-uniwars-for-this-one-galaxian/page/3/#findComment-4728608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacManPlus Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) Hi guys! Whoa - Synthpopalooza, you've been busy! 12 hours ago, Shawn said: It would be nice if this had TIA sound as that would make cartridges much more plentiful and cost effective. You add a POKEY and (as you know) the price goes way up and ease of distribution to the masses to play on actual 7800 machines goes way down. Perhaps a TIA version and then a POKEY version so folks could pick their pleasure? Just a thought. My plan is to utilize TIA if no pokey, or Pokey if it is there at $4000 (the standard). I have enough room for it, I just *hate* doing sounds. 10 hours ago, CPUWIZ said: A ROM sale could also be an option, locked to a SD cart feature, that can be detected and utilized. If the resource is not available to use, the ROM is useless, unless someone spends a bunch of time, trying to refactor critical elements of the code and replace them. It would also be pretty easy to make a tool, that runs code injection on a final ROM and makes them all unique, with unique signatures. I think some of the Jaguar dudes are doing something similar. That's sounds really cool ... I actually started to do something similar (but a lot less involved) on the Pac-Man 40th Anniversary - if you look in the binary toward the end, I have a message there and a space for a Serial #... EDIT - it's actually at $1BF80 2 hours ago, Synthpopalooza said: We could always have both sets of sounds. Which one gets used depends on if POKEY is detected by hardware. OK, I have a question ... it's in regards to that background hum. The arcade version does it on two channels, in a loop. For our purposes, we have two options: 1. Only use second channel for the loop (with a -1 in the frequency data) and 4th channel for player shots and player's ship exploding. first and third channels @1.79 mhz are for alien swoops and alien deaths 2. Use second and fourth channels for the loop, and player explosions in the 4th channel will take precedence in that channel. Have the program restart the loop when finished rather than use -1 frequency, so that it will reset itself when there's no sounds in that channel. I'd like to use option 2. Would that be a possibility? If not, I will work up the first scenario. #2 sounds fine - Thank you!!!!!! *EDIT - BTW, I actually like the *first* boss alien death better than the second. Edited January 18, 2021 by PacManPlus 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/315930-you-guys-can-thank-uniwars-for-this-one-galaxian/page/3/#findComment-4728631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler172 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 10 hours ago, CPUWIZ said: A ROM sale could also be an option, locked to a SD cart feature, that can be detected and utitilized. If the resource is not available to use, the ROM is useless, unless someone spends a bunch of time, trying to refactor critical elements of the code and replace them. It would also be pretty easy to make a tool, that runs code injection on a final ROM and makes them all unique, with unique signatures. I think some of the Jaguar dudes are doing something similar. Yes.....a rom sale would be ok too.....lots of programmers use this option ? 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/315930-you-guys-can-thank-uniwars-for-this-one-galaxian/page/3/#findComment-4728639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) Background hum. Discovery: I can use the standard 64khz clock for this. So from here on out, all game sounds except start jingle and coin insert, use AUDCTL=$60 (not $61) Background hum plays on the second and 4th channels. 4th channel will have ship firing and explosions, and will cut out the last channel. This uses a standard $Ax wave at normal settings. Question: How many times does this hum speed up? I will code up one for each speed. Edit: I counted about 6 different speeds for this ... galaxian-hum1a.asm galaxian-hum1a.bin galaxian-hum1a-450.A78 galaxian-hum1a-450.asm galaxian-hum1a-450.bin galaxian-hum1a.A78 Edited January 18, 2021 by Synthpopalooza 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/315930-you-guys-can-thank-uniwars-for-this-one-galaxian/page/3/#findComment-4728640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Real HW console samples: Galaxian-Start RealHW.mp3Galaxian-Hum1a RealHW.mp3Galaxian-Coin RealHW.mp3Galaxian-aliendeath2a RealHW.mp3Galaxian-aliendeath2 RealHW.mp3Galaxian-aliendeath1 RealHW.mp3 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/315930-you-guys-can-thank-uniwars-for-this-one-galaxian/page/3/#findComment-4728658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Hums 2 through 6. $4000 only at this point ... I will do $450 binaries next galaxian-hum2a.A78 galaxian-hum2a.asm galaxian-hum2a.bin galaxian-hum3a.A78 galaxian-hum3a.asm galaxian-hum3a.bin galaxian-hum4a.A78 galaxian-hum4a.asm galaxian-hum4a.bin galaxian-hum5a.A78 galaxian-hum5a.asm galaxian-hum5a.bin galaxian-hum6a.A78 galaxian-hum6a.asm galaxian-hum6a.bin 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/315930-you-guys-can-thank-uniwars-for-this-one-galaxian/page/3/#findComment-4728685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 $450 binaries for hums 2 thru 6 galaxian-hum2a-450.A78 galaxian-hum2a-450.bin galaxian-hum3a-450.A78 galaxian-hum3a-450.bin galaxian-hum4a-450.A78 galaxian-hum4a-450.bin galaxian-hum5a-450.A78 galaxian-hum5a-450.bin galaxian-hum6a-450.A78 galaxian-hum6a-450.bin 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/315930-you-guys-can-thank-uniwars-for-this-one-galaxian/page/3/#findComment-4728694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Player shot. Plays on third and fourth channels. This will override part of the hum sound. Also plays on the same channel as alien deaths Emulation issues: Neither A7800 or Prosystem will play this properly. Real HW test is needed. galaxian-shot.A78 galaxian-shot.asm galaxian-shot.bin galaxian-shot-450.A78 galaxian-shot-450.asm galaxian-shot-450.bin 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/315930-you-guys-can-thank-uniwars-for-this-one-galaxian/page/3/#findComment-4728714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) Ship explosion. Play this on last channel. Again: Neither ProSystem or A7800 will play this properly. It uses $0x distortion. Real HW please galaxian-explosion.A78 galaxian-explosion.asm galaxian-explosion.bin galaxian-explosion-450.A78 galaxian-explosion-450.asm galaxian-explosion-450.bin Edited January 18, 2021 by Synthpopalooza 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/315930-you-guys-can-thank-uniwars-for-this-one-galaxian/page/3/#findComment-4728725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Extra life. Play this on third channel. Again: Both emulators will not play this, so a real hardware test is needed. galaxian-extralife.A78 galaxian-extralife.asm galaxian-extralife.bin galaxian-extralife-450.A78 galaxian-extralife-450.asm galaxian-extralife-450.bin 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/315930-you-guys-can-thank-uniwars-for-this-one-galaxian/page/3/#findComment-4728741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 This covers every sound in the game except for the alien swoops. Working those up next 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/315930-you-guys-can-thank-uniwars-for-this-one-galaxian/page/3/#findComment-4728744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+darryl1970 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 On 1/16/2021 at 3:40 PM, PacManPlus said: Hi Guys. So, after UniWarS was done, I found that if I ripped out waves 1, 2, and 3 (and left 0), and did some graphics manipulation (and some code modifications), we basically have... GALAXIAN I just saw this. Great work! Where was this starfield when they were plotting huge periods all over the 7800 Galaga field? LOL! 2 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/315930-you-guys-can-thank-uniwars-for-this-one-galaxian/page/3/#findComment-4728813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender_2600 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Hey Bob, I've just started looking at the graphics and was thinking maybe you could get a nice result using both palettes for the player's spaceship with two stacked sprites... 6 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/315930-you-guys-can-thank-uniwars-for-this-one-galaxian/page/3/#findComment-4728837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Real console hardware samples - Part Deux: Galaxian-shot RealHW.mp3Galaxian-hum6a RealHW.mp3Galaxian-hum5a RealHW.mp3Galaxian-hum4a RealHW.mp3Galaxian-hum3a RealHW.mp3Galaxian-hum2a RealHW.mp3Galaxian-extralife RealHW.mp3Galaxian-explosion RealHW.mp3 4 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/315930-you-guys-can-thank-uniwars-for-this-one-galaxian/page/3/#findComment-4728865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikebloke Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just want to say I tried out the latest rom and haven't experienced any freezes, great work! I don't have a pokey chip so I need to grab one when that happens, but I'd happily play it in its current state! Any improvements is just an extra blessing. Had real fun with it, thank you. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/315930-you-guys-can-thank-uniwars-for-this-one-galaxian/page/3/#findComment-4728871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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