Wizzard Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) I noticed strange issue that may or may not be a PlusCart issue. I like Berzerk and wanted to make a new high score so I played it maybe 30 minutes until I got pretty high score (more than 50.000) and after that the game was terminated suddenly, like I was killed, but I had a lot of lifes yet. The background changed the color to cyan like it was game over and the game was finished. It happened twice in a row with NTSC Berzerk and then also with PAL Berzerk (score more than 80.000) I have not noticed this issue before. I am using RGB modded Atari Junior original PAL version and have only PlusCart cartridges. Tried just one of my two PlusCart cartridges, will try another too. I am using the latest firmware version (2.1.0). Edited June 11, 2021 by Wizzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Are you using a PlusROM or a normal ROM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 Using PlusROM with High Score (HSC) version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Then I would guess that there is a hidden bug. Who programmed the ROM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Al_Nafuur Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Thomas Jentzsch said: Then I would guess that there is a hidden bug. Who programmed the ROM? @Omegamatrix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Al_Nafuur Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Wizzard said: I noticed strange issue that may or may not be a PlusCart issue. I like Berzerk and wanted to make a new high score so I played it maybe 30 minutes until I got pretty high score (more than 50.000) and after that the game was terminated suddenly, like I was killed, but I had a lot of lifes yet. The background changed the color to cyan like it was game over and the game was finished. It happened twice in a row with NTSC Berzerk and then also with PAL Berzerk (score more than 80.000) I have not noticed this issue before. I am using RGB modded Atari Junior original PAL version and have only PlusCart cartridges. Tried just one of my two PlusCart cartridges, will try another too. I am using the latest firmware version (2.1.0). there was a score (250 game 0) sent by your PlusCart: 2021-06-11 09:36:42 (CET Central Europe Time) and two loading events at: 2021-06-11 08:45:44 (NTSC version) 2021-06-11 09:37:52 (PAL version) @Wizzard can you tell when the crash happened? Do you have screenshots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 The crash happened a while before these scores. The score was not uploaded after crash, cause the game was not finished correctly. Those scores were just short games which I finished very soon. I may take a picture next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) Now it happened at score around 60.000 This is the screen which appeared. My second PlusCart. Edited June 11, 2021 by Wizzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard Posted June 12, 2021 Author Share Posted June 12, 2021 Today I tried just ordinary Berzerk NTSC to try some high score, if the problem persists. I noticed it also yesterday on HSC Berzerk, sometimes I cannot shoot. I am pressing fire and I see no missile. Tried both PlusiCarts I have. First it worked, later it stopped working, I may just move and cannot shoot a missile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 I found there is a game killing bug in regular Berzerk carts: https://atariage.com/forums/topic/183006-berzerk-reset-bug/?tab=comments#comment-2300120 I'll fix this one and post some new roms. With not being able to shoot, are you saying that happens on a regular Berzerk cart as well? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 I have just posted some updated Berzerk roms into the HSC club. I fixed the too many lives & attract mode sudden death glitches. I also put in an extra write for SWCHA so that accidental early exit came be avoided. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 9 hours ago, Omegamatrix said: With not being able to shoot, are you saying that happens on a regular Berzerk cart as well? Yes, mainly with regular Berzerk ROM. Also noticed that fire button not working sometimes in some PlusCart menus. Will try today with the new PlusCart firmware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 How can you reach 128 lives with just 60,000 points? There is an extra live every 1K. I suppose there is another bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Al_Nafuur Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 11 hours ago, Omegamatrix said: I have just posted some updated Berzerk roms into the HSC club. I fixed the too many lives & attract mode sudden death glitches. I also put in an extra write for SWCHA so that accidental early exit came be avoided. You mean extra read (LDA SWCHA) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Thomas Jentzsch said: How can you reach 128 lives with just 60,000 points? There is an extra live every 1K. I suppose there is another bug. If you look at the link I posted there is another glitch with attract mode the way I understood it is that any time the player is not moving there is a timer incrementing and eventually it will go into attact mode. I put Nukey's fix in there to clear the timer when the player is moving. 1 hour ago, Al_Nafuur said: You mean extra read (LDA SWCHA) ? Yep that's what I meant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Omegamatrix said: If you look at the link I posted there is another glitch with attract mode the way I understood it is that any time the player is not moving there is a timer incrementing and eventually it will go into attact mode. I put Nukey's fix in there to clear the timer when the player is moving. Got you. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard Posted June 14, 2021 Author Share Posted June 14, 2021 Ok, it is fixed, Berzerk was not terminating and I was able to get more than 100.000 points. Also it seems that the fire issue was caused by my joystick. I replaced it and it was ok. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard Posted October 6, 2021 Author Share Posted October 6, 2021 I tried to reach the high score in Berzerk NTSC, so I got some 130.000 points and let Atari run during the night and day to finish the game on the next day. When I came back the next day, I was dead, but it seems like I was in the same level I let it be (no robots, no evil Otto). Maybe another bug that terminates the game after a few hours of inactivity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Al_Nafuur Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 52 minutes ago, Wizzard said: I tried to reach the high score in Berzerk NTSC, so I got some 130.000 points cool, do you have a screenshot? 52 minutes ago, Wizzard said: and let Atari run during the night and day to finish the game on the next day. I don't think this is a good idea. The PlusROM might loose the network connection to the server. I did some test over several hours and mostly the connection was still alive, but sometimes when the WiFi module looses the connection and the reconnect failes, it will not connect anymore. 52 minutes ago, Wizzard said: When I came back the next day, I was dead, but it seems like I was in the same level I let it be (no robots, no evil Otto). Maybe another bug that terminates the game after a few hours of inactivity? Maybe a hidden timer? @Omegamatrix altered the game, maybe he knows why this happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard Posted October 6, 2021 Author Share Posted October 6, 2021 5 hours ago, Al_Nafuur said: cool, do you have a screenshot? Nah, that is not a problem, it is just time consuming on the first level, it takes more than hour to get this score. I know that wifi connection may be a problem, I just wanted to try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 It sounds like the original kill glitch Nukey described. If you don't move a timer increments and you eventually die. His fix I put in place, which is if you move the timer is cleared. So I believe it is not an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Al_Nafuur Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 @Omegamatrix there seems to be an issues with the fixed PAL60 version. User @Bomberman94 reports that it (always) resets to the start when he is in the 4. room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomberman94 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Al_Nafuur said: @Omegamatrix there seems to be an issues with the fixed PAL60 version. User @Bomberman94 reports that it (always) resets to the start when he is in the 4. room. Here’s a short video to demonstrate the problem: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomberman94 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Edit: the „normal“ PAL60 ROM (found in the AA forum for games translated to PAL60 version) works without problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizzard Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 On 10/28/2021 at 2:29 PM, Bomberman94 said: Here’s a short video to demonstrate the problem: Beovision TV? Also have MX2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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