Lord Thag Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 So I've got a NUC+ inbound. I am planning to use it, along with a very comfortable microswitch keyboard, to learn to do some coding on the 8-bit. Mainly due to the fact that's it's far more portable, and I can hook it up to a spare monitor and dink around while doing other things. I am well aware of the cross compiling solutions like WUDSN, Mad Pascal etc., and will likely use these for bigger projects, but I'd like to tinker on actual hardware. I'm used to using an U1mb/SDX setup for the Atari, but due to the NUC+ not having a cart solution yet, this won't be an option for now. So, do any of you folks have a suggestion for the best/easiest solution for disk/.atr based coding/programming on a physical 8-bit? I am currently looking at Fastbasic and maybe the disk version of MAC/65. Anything else I should be looking at in terms of languages, editors or IDEs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGB1718 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 On real hardware, MAC/65 is still probably the best assembler, any of the BASIC's will do, not used FastBasic myself as I only really use BASIC to try things out before I code them in MAC/65, so just use built in BASIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrathchild Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Maybe replace the Basic with the Altirra Basic image, much faster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, Wrathchild said: Maybe replace the Basic with the Altirra Basic image, much faster It’s already part of the NUC+ custom OS EPROM image. Boot the system with ALT+1 and you’ll have Altirra BASIC plus a patched OS ROM with HSIO and FastMath. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Thag Posted July 1, 2021 Author Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 minute ago, DrVenkman said: It’s already part of the NUC+ custom OS EPROM image. Boot the system with ALT+1 and you’ll have Altirra BASIC plus a patched OS ROM with HSIO and FastMath. Ah that's cool, I didn't realize fastmath was already part of the deal, floating point was a huge reason the old Atari basic was so slow. Good to know. I'll probably flip between that, MAC65, and Action! Thanks for the tips folks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massiverobot Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 9 hours ago, DrVenkman said: It’s already part of the NUC+ custom OS EPROM image. Boot the system with ALT+1 and you’ll have Altirra BASIC plus a patched OS ROM with HSIO and FastMath. This is reality coming full circle - a real hardware device now implements improvements from an emulated branch of the original hardware platform. Inception type work here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, massiverobot said: This is reality coming full circle - a real hardware device now implements improvements from an emulated branch of the original hardware platform. Inception type work here. It's not the first time Altirra BASIC has been implemented on real hardware. I did this to one of my 600XL's last summer. And for that matter, Jon generally includes Altirra's reverse-engineered OS ROM as one of the slots in his U1MB firmware downloads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massiverobot Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 hour ago, DrVenkman said: It's not the first time Altirra BASIC has been implemented on real hardware. I did this to one of my 600XL's last summer. And for that matter, Jon generally includes Altirra's reverse-engineered OS ROM as one of the slots in his U1MB firmware downloads. OK, fair enough. Thanks for keeping me straight. The U1mb makes sense also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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