Crazy Climber Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Hello Well, a LONG time ago now I had what I considered a "complete" Atari 2600 collection. Basically I had every game R9 and below (loose). Long story short I don't have it anymore and I miss it. My current system, harmony cart and homebrews are great but I want a pile of old carts again. I've been meaning to dive back in for awhile but starting from scratch is tough when you used to have "everything" Not to mention prices aren't what they used to be haha. I finally decided to jump back in when this nice "starter lot" fell into my lap recently for $75. It's got just the right amount of uncommons to get me hooked again. It also had a few dupes and a crusty old system/game holder so naturally I'll start a trade/sell pile too. I'll post everything I find and even track the cost all in this topic for fun. I'll even post prices of any atari 2600 games I resell to fund it so we can see an exact cost of "the hunt" in the end. R9 and below might be a little ambitious right now financially so I'll start with everything R8 and below (loose) I'm not playing with you CIB animals That being said, anyone with large lots of common/mid range stuff that wants to do a "bulk discount" price feel free to contact me. I'm not trying to rip anyone off of course, but if I buy a lot of common stuff from you I'm not matching price charting/etc (that seems to be the thing these days) My current trade pile isn't much but I'm sure it's going to grow FAST so keep an eye on it if you're a trader So, thats that! If you're bored watch my progress in this topic. I'm going to try not to "speed collect" but the common stuff will probably multiply quickly, I'm a motivated collector with a little bit of cash to play with so things should stay steady. I used to have a knack for finding things so maybe I'll do good? We'll see.... Thanks! Current collection - $75 invested to date 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted November 2, 2021 Author Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) Oh, almost forgot...speaking of hunting I found this bad boy in the wild Sunday. I was at a "swap meet" for toy collecting and a small box of 50 or so atari games were on a vendors table at $2 each. Somebody had just beat me to the Activision Ghostbusters... I'm sure there was more I needed but I couldn't remember what I already have. It prompted me to start making this old school "wallet list" I can carry around. Current collection - $77 invested to date Edited November 2, 2021 by Crazy Climber added photo 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+McCallister Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Cool idea! Looking forward to following this thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+discotronic Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Have fun and good luck. It will be great to see what you find. Looks like you have already picked up some great games. How about hardware? Are you seeing much out in the wild on the Atari side? It has been a while since I've actually looked for anything. Seems like most thrift stores and etc. have their own action sites or sell on eBay. It wasn't that long ago that I would go to a flea market and find a nice lot with a full system and 10-20 games for $10. Now the WATA tax has, among other factors, made this hobby out of reach for a large portion of people. When a sealed copy of Pac-Man goes for $127 then something is not right with the world of retro gaming. It isn't inflation either. So $1.00 in 2001 in today's 2021 money (US dollar) is $1.55. Nobody in their right mind would have paid $83 for a sealed Pac-Man in 2001. Hell, it was near impossible to give one away then. https://www.ebay.com/itm/124976318496?epid=6545&hash=item1d192b4820%3Ag%3ALx8AAOSwZ-lhBvAm&nma=true&si=ZAZ6yvVM%2BmCqDiGK%2FNtPjynofCk%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Sorry for the long link. I don't remember any HTML these days. Today it feels like the early 90s and comic books. I wanted a copy of The Uncanny X-Men #282 when it came out. It was a $1.00 comic but it was already sold for more than that before it even hit the shelf because of speculators. The comic shops had their regular big spenders that they looked out for. I never did get that comic and I didn't buy many more comics after that. The comic book industry deserved to crash because they helped build that bubble. Hopefully for us collectors the market will right itself soon. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted November 2, 2021 Author Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 hour ago, discotronic said: Have fun and good luck. It will be great to see what you find. Looks like you have already picked up some great games. How about hardware? Are you seeing much out in the wild on the Atari side? It has been a while since I've actually looked for anything. Seems like most thrift stores and etc. have their own action sites or sell on eBay. It wasn't that long ago that I would go to a flea market and find a nice lot with a full system and 10-20 games for $10. Now the WATA tax has, among other factors, made this hobby out of reach for a large portion of people. When a sealed copy of Pac-Man goes for $127 then something is not right with the world of retro gaming. It isn't inflation either. So $1.00 in 2001 in today's 2021 money (US dollar) is $1.55. Nobody in their right mind would have paid $83 for a sealed Pac-Man in 2001. Hell, it was near impossible to give one away then. https://www.ebay.com/itm/124976318496?epid=6545&hash=item1d192b4820%3Ag%3ALx8AAOSwZ-lhBvAm&nma=true&si=ZAZ6yvVM%2BmCqDiGK%2FNtPjynofCk%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Sorry for the long link. I don't remember any HTML these days. Today it feels like the early 90s and comic books. I wanted a copy of The Uncanny X-Men #282 when it came out. It was a $1.00 comic but it was already sold for more than that before it even hit the shelf because of speculators. The comic shops had their regular big spenders that they looked out for. I never did get that comic and I didn't buy many more comics after that. The comic book industry deserved to crash because they helped build that bubble. Hopefully for us collectors the market will right itself soon. Hey there! Yeah, I never got rid of my 2600 system and harmony cart and I have always collected homebrews so on the hardware side I'm ready to go. I've attached a pic of my "daily driver" lol Oh I totally get it. Luckily the loose atari stuff seems to still be somewhat reasonable. I never did very good with atari "in the wild" around here in MN, even 20 years ago but the craigslist/garage sale scene was definitely better than it is now. I doubt I'll find much, but who knows?? Yeah, sealed stuff is just nuts. I'm sitting on a sealed Dragon Warrior NES my cousin asked me to sell for him and I almost don't even feel right doing it (it's like $300-$400++ for a freakin dragon warrior!!) speaking of NES games, I do feel really bad for those guys. Even the loose stuff that's not that rare is becoming "neo geo" prices haha. Not a good time to jump in that scene. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurkie Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I LOVE the old school hand written list! And is that a Buck Rogers on the bottom shelf? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGameCollector Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Good idea posting how much you spend vs how much you sell. If you're in the USA you can use the spending record to offset the taxes they want you to pay for making money reselling games. You'll be able to prove that you spent more on games than you made selling them so you won't owe for it if audited. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+discotronic Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 That missing end label game has got to be Combat. How can you show a newly started collection without a Combat cart? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Good luck, it helps to print out the AA rarity list too. And alot of label variations to collect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high voltage Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Here's a little help, just in case THE COMPLETE ATARI 2600 NTSC/USA CARTRIDGE COLLECTION LIST This comprehensive list breaks down the complete collection of USA/NTSC Atari 2600video game cartridges from 001 to 404. It also explains WHY the actual total is 404.Games marked with an (*) are surrounded by controversy & as such are given detaileddescriptions & explanations with REASONS for their addition and/or disqualification. With careful consideration, serious stipulation, and relentless research, we findthat a complete Atari 2600 NTSC/USA cartridge collection consists of 404 games. ATARI 2600 NTSC/USA CARTRIDGE QUALIFICATIONS AND VERIFICATIONS Every cartridge on this list must meet or exceed the following requirements: 1) 100% plug & play compatible with an unmodified original NTSC / USA Atari 2600. AND 2) Available for purchase at a retail store in the United States from 1977-1990. OR 3) Available through a mail order offer; advertised in a magazine or television ad. And every cartridge presented for admission to this list is subjected to these questions: (1) Was the cartridge NTSC compatible? Meaning, did it function properly when insertedinto a factory stock USA 2600 console connected to a 70s/80s era USA television set? (2) Was the game a repeat or a copy or a clone or a rom hack of an already existingand released game that was already on the list? (3) Was there another one available? Meaning, at the time, had another person beenright next to you, or had they called the same phone number right after you,could they have also purchased it at that time? (4) Did you need to have a passport to get it? In other words, did you leave thecountry and buy it elsewhere and/or did you have it brought in from outside the USA? (5) Was the cartridge available during the natural lifespan of the system? Which is commonly defined as theperiod of time during which the parent company (in this case Atari) still supported it. THE DETAILED CARTRIDGE DISQUALIFICATION AND EXPLANATION SECTION 1) Any rebranded, repackaged, or renamed game that retained its original rom data. 2) Any promotional game limited to a private event & not available for public purchase. 3) Any game released outside the USA in the PAL or SECAM television formats. 4) Any game that went unreleased, regardless if a proto or a sample has been found. 001. Adventure 002. Air Sea Battle / Target Fun 003. Alpha Beam with Ernie 004. Asterix 005. Asteroids 006. Atari Video Cube / Rubik's Cube 007. Basic Programming 008. Basketball 009. Backgammon 010. Basic Math / Fun with Numbers 011. Battle Zone 012. Big Bird's Egg Catch 013. Black Jack 014. Canyon Bomber 015. Brain Games 016. Berzerk 017. Bowling 018. Breakout / Breakaway IV 019. Circus Atari / Circus 020. Centipede 021. Casino 022. Championship Soccer / Pele's Soccer 023. Cookie Monster Munch 024. Crossbow 025. Codebreaker 026. Combat / Tank Plus 027. Dark Chambers 028. Defender 029. Crazy Climber 030. Crystal Castles 031. Dig Dug 032. Double Dunk 033. Desert Falcon 034. Demons to Diamonds / Hot Rox 035. Flag Capture / Capture 036. Football 037. E.T. 038. Dodge 'Em / Dodger Cars 039. Golf 040. Gravitar 041. Galaxian 042. Concentration / Hunt & Score 043. Haunted House / Nightmare Manor 044. Joust 045. Gremlins 046. Hangman / Spelling 047. Human Cannonball / Cannon Man 048. Jr. Pac-Man 049. Kangaroo 050. Home Run / Baseball 051. Ikari Warriors 052. Jungle Hunt 053. Krull 054. Indy 500 / Race 055. Math Gran Prix 056. Millipede 057. Mario Bros. 058. Maze Craze / Maze Mania 059. Missile Command 060. Moon Patrol 061. Midnight Magic 062. Miniature Golf / Arcade Golf 063. Night Driver 064. Obelix 065. Moto Rodeo 066. Ms. Pac-Man 067. Outlaw / Gunslinger 068. Othello / Reversi 069. Off the Wall 070. Oscar's Trash Race 071. Pigs in Space 072. Phoenix 073. Pac-Man 074. Pengo 075. Radar Lock 076. Quadrun 077. Pole Position 078. Raiders of the Lost Arc 079. Real Sports Baseball 080. Real Sports Boxing 081. Real Sports Football 082. Real Sports Soccer 083. Real Sports Tennis 084. Real Sports Volleyball 085. Road Runner 086. Sentinel 087. Slot Machine / Slots 088. Solaris / Star Raiders 2 089. Secret Quest 090. Sky Diver / Dare Diver 091. Slot Racers / Maze 092. Space War / Space Combat 093. Star Raiders 094. Snoopy & the Red Baron 095. Space Invaders 096. Sprint Master 097. Street Racer 098. Sorcerer's Apprentice 099. Stargate / Defender 2 100. Surround / Chase 101. Superman 102. Star Ship / Space Mission 103. Super Breakout 104. Taz 105. Super Baseball 106. Super Football 107. Sword Quest Earth World 108. Sword Quest Fire World 109. Sword Quest Water World 110. 3-D Tic Tac Toe 111. Track & Field 112. Vanguard 113. Video Checkers / Checkers 114. Video Chess / Chess 115. Video Olympics / Pong Sports 116. Video Pinball / Arcade Pinball 117. Warlords 118. Xenophobe 119. Yar's Revenge 120. Barnstorming 121. Beam Rider 122. Boxing 123. Bridge 124. Checkers 125. Chopper Command 126. Commando 127. Cosmic Commuter 128. Crackpots 129. Decathlon 130. Dolphin 131. Double Dragon 132. Dragster 133. Enduro 134. Fishing Derby 135. Freeway 136. Frostbite 137. Ghostbusters 138. Grand Prix 139. H.E.R.O. 140. Ice Hockey 141. Kaboom! 142. Keystone Kapers 143. Kung Fu Master 144. Laser Blast 145. Mega Mania 146. Oink! 147. Pitfall! 148. Pitfall II 149. Plaque Attack 150. Pressure Cooker 151. Private Eye 152. Rampage 153. River Raid 154. River Raid II 155. Robot Tank 156. Sea Quest 157. Skiing 158. Sky Jinx 159. Space Shuttle 160. Spider Fighter 161. Stampede 162. Star Master 163. Tennis 164. Atlantis 165. Cosmic Ark 166. Demon Attack 167. Dragon Fire 168. Fathom 169. Fire Fighter 170. Laser Gates 171. Moon Sweeper 172. No Escape! 173. Quick Step! 174. Riddle of the Sphinx 175. Shooting Gallery 176. Solar Storm 177. Star Voyager 178. Subterranea 179. Trick Shot 180. Amidar 181. Frogger 182. Frogger II 183. G.I. Joe / Action Force 184. Gyruss 185. James Bond 007 186. Montezuma's Revenge 187. Mr. Do’s Castle 188. Popeye 189. Q*Bert 190. Q*Bert’s Qubes 191. Reactor 192. Sky Skipper 193. Spider-Man 194. Star Wars - Jedi Arena 195. Star Wars - The Empire Strikes Back 196. Star Wars - Return of the Jedi 197. Star Wars - The Arcade Game 198. Strawberry Shortcake 199. Super Cobra 200. Tutankham 201. Carnival 202. Donkey Kong 203. Mouse Trap 204. Smurf Rescue 205. Venture 206. Zaxxon 207. Donkey Kong Jr. 208. Time Pilot 209. Mr. Do! 210. Roc 'n Rope 211. Front Line 212. Smurf's Save the Day 213. Berenstain Bears 214. King Kong 215. Jawbreaker 216. Threshold 217. Miner 2049er 218. Polaris 219. Marauder 220. Springer 221. Espial 222. Miner 2049er II 223. River Patrol 224. Planet Patrol 225. Gangster Alley 226. Cross Force 227. China Syndrome 228. Tapeworm 229. Nexar 230. Bumper Bash 231. Master Builder 232. Gas Hog 233. Chase the Chuckwagon 234. Mangia' 235. Adventures of Tron / GX-12 236. Air Raiders / Bogey Blaster 237. Armor Ambush 238. Astroblast 239. Bump 'n Jump 240. Burger Time 241. Dark Cavern 242. Frogs & Flies 243. International Soccer 244. Kool Aid Man 245. Lock 'n Chase 246. He-Man 247. Space Attack 248. Star Strike 249. Super Challenge Baseball 250. Super Challenge Football 251. Tron: Deadly Discs 252. Alien 253. Bank Heist 254. Beany Bopper 255. Crash Dive 256. Crypts of Chaos 257. Deadly Duck 258. Earth Dies Screaming 259. Fantastic Voyage 260. Fast Eddie 261. Flash Gordan 262. M*A*S*H* 263. Mega Force 264. Porky's 265. Revenge of the Beefsteak Tomatoes 266. Space Master X-7 267. Turmoil 268. Worm War I 269. Buck Rogers 270. Congo Bongo 271. Spy Hunter 272. Star Trek 273. Sub Scan 274. Tac Scan 275. Tapper 276. Thunder Ground 277. Up n Down 278. Final Approach 279. Guardian 280. Infiltrate 281. Lost Luggage 282. Racket Ball 283. Shark Attack / Lock Jaw 284. Skeet Shoot 285. Space Cavern / Space Canyon by Panda 286. Space Chase 287. Wabbit 288. Commando Raid 289. Eggomania 290. Entombed 291. Gopher 292. M.A.D. 293. Name this Game / Octopus 294. Picnic 295. Piece 'o Cake 296. Raft Rider 297. Sneak 'n Peak 298. Space Jockey 299. Squeeze Box 300. Towering Inferno 301. Word Zapper 302. Air Lock 303. Bermuda Triangle 304. Bugs 305. Encounter at L-5 306. Frankenstein's Monster 307. Journey Escape 308. SSSnake 309. Warp Lock 310. Artillery Duel 311. Chuck Norris 312. Ghost Manor 313. Spike's Peak 314. Robin Hood 315. Sir Lancelot 316. Motocross Racer 317. Tomarc the Barbarian 318. Fast Food 319. Coconuts 320. Cosmic Creeps 321. Ram It 322. Star Gunner 323. Demolition Herby 324. Blue Print 325. Gorf 326. Mountain King 327. Omega Race 328. Solar Fox 329. Tunnel Runner 330. Wizard of Wor 331. Cosmic Swarm 332. Room of Doom 333. Mines of Minos 334. Stronghold 335. Cakewalk 336. Magicard 337. Video Life 338. London Blitz 339. Wall Ball 340. Shuttle Orbiter 341. Death Trap 342. Out of Control 343. Pete Rose Baseball 344. Skate Boardin' 345. Title Match Pro Wrestling / The Contenders 346. Tomcat: F-14 / Fighter Pilot 347. Cosmic Corridor / Space Tunnel by Bit Corp 348. Dishaster / Dancing Plate by Bit Corp 349. I Want My Mommy / Open Sesame by Bit Corp 350. Tanks But No Tanks / Tank Brigade by Panda / Phantom Tank by Bit Corp 351. Assault 352. Great Escape 353. Wall Defender 354. Z-Tack 355. Cruise Missile / Exocet by Panda 356. Karate 357. Sea Hawk / Sea Hawk by Panda 358. Sea Hunt 359. Steeplechase 360. Stellar Track 361. Submarine Commander 362. Poo Yan 363. Strategy-X 364. Marine Wars 365. Fire Fly 366. Sorcerer 367. Star Fox 368. Custer's Revenge 369. Bachelor Party 370. Beat 'em& Eat 'em 371. Gigolo 372. Burning Desire 373. Knight on the Town 374. California Games 375. Summer Games 376. Winter Games 377. Dice Puzzle by Panda 378. Stunt Man by Panda (also NTSC Nightmare by Sancho) 379. Gauntlet by Answer Software 380. Malagai by Answer Software 381. Video Jogger by Exus 382. Video Reflex by Exus 383. Survival Run by Milton Bradley 384. Spitfire Attack by Milton Bradley 385. Halloween by Wizard 386. Texas Chainsaw by Wizard 387. Glacier Patrol by Telegames 388. Universal Chaos by Telegames 389. Vulture Attack by K-TEL Vision OR Condor Attack by Ultra Vision 390. BMX Airmaster by TNT Games 391. Boing! by First Star Software 392. Quest for Quintana Roo by Sunrise Software (also from Tele Games) 393. Tax Avoiders by American Video Games 394. Mogul Maniac by Amiga 395. Rescue Terra I by Venture Vision 396. Glib by Selchow& Richter 397. X-Man by Universal Gamex 398. Tooth Protectors by DSD Camelot 399. Music Machine by Sparrow 400. Eli's Ladder by Simage 401. Air Raid by Men A Vision 402. Gamma Attack 403. Red Sea Crossing 404. Birthday Mania END: If a collector has these 404 games then they have a complete set. (*) THE 404 IS A COMPLETE AND OFFICIAL USA/NTSC ATARI 2600 SET! (*) the 404 is NOT a complete NTSC cartridge set! (*) the 404 is NOT a complete PAL cartridge set! (*) the 404 is NOT a complete 2600 game set! DISQUALIFIED ENTRIES ALONG WITH DETAILED EXPLANATIONS: (these cartridges ENHANCE a collection. they do not COMPLETE it) (*) Polo (promotional game) A cartridge put together by Atari programmer Carol Shaw for a Ralph Laurenpromotional event and was never sold nor officially available -- (*) Pepsi Invaders / Coke Wins (promotional game) Although it was made by Atari, and it was an actual mask rom game, it was limited toa release of about 125 copies and given away to employees of Coca-Cola. In addition,it is a graphical "rom hack" of Space Invaders, and thus is disqualified anyhow. -- (*) Atlantis 2 (promotional game) Although it was made by Imagic, and it was an actual mask rom game, it was onlyintended to be used as part of a contest and not an official release. In addition,it is a rom hack of Atlantis, and thus is disqualified for that as well. -- (*) Cubicolor (unreleased proto) Although it was made by Imagic, and it was an actual mask rom game, whenRob Fulop sold copies of this game to us, it was not done officially, northrough the proper channels, nor during the natural lifespan of the system. -- (*) Off Your Rocker (unreleased proto) Although it has a mask rom, it's an unofficial & unauthorized aftermarketcartridge soldwith a handmade label and makeshift instruction sheet by asecondhand distributor. -- (*) Confrontation (unreleased proto) Although a few people purchased sample carts from Answer Software, and it evenhappened during the natural lifespan of the system,the opportunity was not an open public and fair one, and the carts were notofficial releases, but rather early production samples. -- (*) Cat Trax (production sample) Although a professional retail-ready NTSC cartridge was found for this game,it is still as of yet unclear and unconfirmed as to whether or not it's originscan be traced back to having been a released game or a dressed production sample. -- (*) Monogrammed Space Chase (rom hack) Although this was technically available, and it results in an extremely rarecartridge, it amounts to nothing more than a customized rom hack of the original game. -- (*) Lockjaw (rom hack) Although the title was changed for legal reasons and the ROM was slightlymodified at the same time, it is not a different game. It is still Shark Attack.Atari themselves did similar things. Such as to Asteroids, when they implementeda copyright/title screen and when they altered Atari Video Cube to Rubik's Cube. ROM HACKS VERSUS ROM REBUILDS –A DETAILED EXPLANATION Many companies released the same games. Sometimes with permission, sometimeswithout.Sometimesthey altered the rom data, sometimes they didn't. So,what makesagame a hack versus a rebuild?A detailed analysis based on the following criteria: (Game Name, Box Art, Product Number, Title Screen, Game Play) -- REAL SPORTS BASEBALL versus SUPER BASEBALL (1) game name: CHANGED. As much as an ambiguous sport title can be. (2) the box art: CHANGED. It was completely redone and updated. (3) product number: CHANGED. This defines it as a different game program. (4) title screen: CHANGED. A totally bran new title screen was made. (5) game rom: CHANGED. It was altered. Both audio and video have been modified. --TAZ versus ASTERIX (1) game name: CHANGED.From Tazto Asterix. No relation whatsoever. (2) the box art: CHANGED. Completely redone. No relation whatsoever. (3) product number: CHANGED. This defines it as a different game program. (4) title screen: CHANGED. Totally redone screen. No relation whatsoever. (5) game rom: CHANGED. Sprites were changed to reflect the new game. -- ATARI VIDEO CUBE versus RUBIK’S CUBE (1) game name: CHANGED. Merely altered and clarified. (Example: Pele’s Soccer) (2) box art: SAME. It was not changed. It remained the same. (3) product number: CHANGED. (Atari made a mistake) (Example: Track & Field) (4) title screen: CHANGED. Merely to reflect the altered name. (5) gamerom: SAME. It was altered, but only to implement the name change. -- STARGATE versus DEFENDER II (1) game name: CHANGED. Merely altered and clarified. (Example: Pele’s Soccer) (2) box art: SAME. It remained the same. It was merely inverted. (3) product number: SAME. Defines it as the same game program. (4) title screen: CHANGED. Merely to reflect the new name. (5) game rom: SAME. It was altered, but only to implement the name change. Granted, this is not an exact science. Some of the criteria can weigh differently depending on the game being analyzed. But rebuilding and recycling rom data to assemble a new game was done. Some examples include Atari's Blackjack & Casino, Atari’s Solaris & Radar Lock, Atari's Boxing & Absolute's Wrestling, and arguably all three of Mythicon's games were rebuilds of one another. ADDITIONAL EXTREME CASES OF DISQUALIFICATIONS (*) Color Bar Generator - (this is a service & repair utility device) This is neither a game nor a game program and was never intended to bemarketed or sold in that capacity; neither to repair centers nor consumers. -- (*) Arcadia/Starpath Super Charger - (this is a system modification / accessory) This cannot function without a tethered connection to an interface cartridge,which by itself serves no purpose or function when inserted alone. -- (*) Compumate Computer - (this is a system modification / accessory) An expansion interface auxiliary console whose coincidental utilization of the system'scartridge port, via a tethered cartridge, although functional, is inconsequential. -- (*) Video Game Brain with Cat Trax - (this is an enhanced system accessory) Although the Cat Trax game is technically present and becomes playable as aresult of its implementation, the tethered cartridge only functions as an interface. -- (*) Gameline Network with Save the Whales - (this is a system modification / accessory) Although technically you could download and play this game on your systemvia a phone line connected to the gameline network device, because there was noOFFICIAL and LEGAL way, at the time, to copy and retain its data on a normalstandalone cartridge, it will never be given legitimate status. FINAL ANALYSIS & EXPLANATION 4 EXTRA TERRESTRIALS DISQUALIFICATION (*) Extra Terrestrials - (unreleased proto / production sample) -- was not sold at any retail stores -- was not advertised in any magazine or newspaper or television ad -- was designed, programmed, & assembled but never officially released -- was sold door to door, randomly and exclusively, to some Canadian residents The recent discovery of Extra Terrestrials was a fascinating and interesting story. And because of that, it was givenspecial treatment and positioned itself on many lists. But the harsh truth is that itFAILS in EVERY area of qualification for ANY released list. It merely falls into the same category as Cubicolor&Off Your Rocker. Even if he hadknocked on some doors in northern USA bordering cities,and thus some USA residents also had the opportunity to purchase the game,it STILL would not qualify. Because any cartridge that was exclusively made availableto a select people in a select area orsituation rather than fairly made availableto the open public, is instantly disqualified.Even if the original intention was to mass produce the game, advertise itpublicly, and sell it through mail order and/or retail stores in BOTHCanadian and USA markets, it didn't happen.As such, the ONLY way to purchase this game from 1977-1990 was IF you lived in Canadaand IF you happened to live in his area, and IF he happened toknock on your door, and IF you happened to be home. POSSIBLE FUTURE DISCOVERY THAT COULD RESULT IN A 406 SET (*) Atari's Fatal Run &Klax could turn up in NTSC and in LARGE quantities. -- they were released in PAL format. -- their NTSC protos were found. -- their NTSC packaging would have been identical -- 7800 Fatal Run was released in NTSC format -- 2600 Sentinel saw release while 7800 Sentinel was also PALexclusive -- 7800 Ikari Warriors was released in NTSC -- 2600 Ikari Warriors &Motorodeo (were also once presumed PAL exclusive) EXPANSION NUMBER ONE: NON-US NTSC ATARI 2600 CARTRIDGE LIST - NTSC compatible game cartridges. (must work on a factory stock USA console) - Cartridges must be unique to the other games listed. (not repeats or rom hacks) - Cartridges that were released outside the United States. (not intended for USA) 405. (CAN) Challenge by Zellers / (a Fun Vision game) 406. (CAN) Time Warp by Zellers / (a Fun Vision game) 407. (CAN) Inca Gold by Zellers / (a Fun Vision game) / Spider Maze by K-TEL 408. (BRA) Spectracube by Sun Tek / Immies& Aggies (a Zimag game) 409. (BRA) Pizza Chef by CCE / (a Zimag game) 410. (BRA) Criminal Pursuit by Sun Tek / A Mysterious Thief by Zimag 411. (BRA) Mr. Postman by CCE / (a Bit Corp game) 412. (BRA) Bobby is Going Home by CCE (a Bit Corp game) 413. (CAN) Sea Monster by Puzzy (a Bit Corp game) 414. (BRA) Mission 3000 A.D. by CCE / (a Bit Corp game) 415. (BRA) Squirrel by CCE / (a Bit Corp game) EXPANSION NUMBER TWO: NON-US PAL ATARI 2600 CARTRIDGE LIST - PAL compatible game cartridges. (will NOT work on a factory stock USA console) - Cartridges must be unique to the other games listed. (not repeats or rom hacks) - Cartridges that were released outside the United States. (not intended for USA) - Cartridges have either been found in NTSC format or they have been converted. 416. Fatal Run by Atari 417. Klax by Atari 418. Wing War by Imagic 419. Ghostbusters II by Salu (an Activision game) 420. My Golf by Salu (an HES game) 421. Acid Drop by Salu 422. Pick & Pile by Salu 423. Forest by Sancho 424. Dragon Defender by Suntek (Dragon Defender by Home Vision) 425. Farmyard Fun by Suntek (Play Farm by Home Vision) 426. Firebug by Suntek (Spinning Fireball by Zimag) (*ntsc) 427. IQ Memory Teaser by Sun Tek (IQ 180 by Home Vision) 428. Mole Hunter by Suntek (Topy by Home Vision) (*ntsc) 429. Motocross by Suntek (a Home Vision game) (*ntsc) 430. Ski Run by Suntek (a Home Vision game) 431. Sky Diver by Suntek (Parachute by Home Vision) 432. Treasure Island by Suntek (Treasure Discovery by Home Vision) 433. UFO Patrol by Suntek (X'Mission by Home Vision) 434. Walker by Suntek (Robin by Home Vision) 435. Zoo Fun by Suntek (an ITT Family game) (Panda Chase rebuild) 436. Frisco by Home Vision (RJPG) 437. Lilly Adventure by Home Vision (*ntsc) 438. Panda Chase by Home Vision 439. Racing Car by Home Vision (a Fun Vision game) (RJPG) 440. Ski Hunt by Home Vision (a Fun Vision game) (*ntsc) (RJPG) 441. Astrowar by Dimax/Sinmax 442. Go Go Home by Dimax/Sinmax (*ntsc) 443. The End of the World by Dimax/Sinmax (*ntsc) 444. Nuts by Techno Vision 445. Pharaoh's Curse by Techno Vision 446. Save Our Ship by Techno Vision (*ntsc) 447. Stone Age by CCE (a Techno Vision game) 448. Missile Control by Video Gems 449. Mission Survive by Video Gems 450. Steeplechase by Video Gems 451. Surfer's Paradise But Danger Below! by Video Gems 452. Treasure Below by Video Gems 453. Seal to Whales by Datatech (undumped) 454. Unknown by Datatech (MEXICO) (*ntsc) (Mazy Match by Pet Boat) 455. Megaboy by Dynacom (BRAZIL) (*ntsc) 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 11 hours ago, Yurkie said: I LOVE the old school hand written list! And is that a Buck Rogers on the bottom shelf? haha sure is! Yeah, I suppose I could print one out but this is smaller 11 hours ago, TheGameCollector said: Good idea posting how much you spend vs how much you sell. If you're in the USA you can use the spending record to offset the taxes they want you to pay for making money reselling games. You'll be able to prove that you spent more on games than you made selling them so you won't owe for it if audited. Yeah, this is a nice side effect of the hunt. They did just start imposing some pretty crazy tax stuff! 11 hours ago, discotronic said: That missing end label game has got to be Combat. How can you show a newly started collection without a Combat cart? lol, dude...I actually DO NOT own combat!!! (it's video pinball if you were wondering) 8 hours ago, roadrunner said: Good luck, it helps to print out the AA rarity list too. And alot of label variations to collect. I'll see if I can find my old list I wrote back when I first discovered atariage. I wrote the entire rarity list, ALL of it, on one sheet of folded notebook paper lol. This was like 20 years ago, the print is so small I doubt I can even read it now with my aging eyes haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 5 hours ago, high voltage said: THE COMPLETE ATARI 2600 NTSC/USA CARTRIDGE COLLECTION LIST 402. Gamma Attack 404. Birthday Mania Woah!! This is awesome. Did you make this list? Way cool Quick question though, I've been out of the scene for awhile but haven't only 1 of the above games been found? Or did a stash get discovered? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazball Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Starting a 2600 collection from scratch in 2021?? Wow, that sounds like a crazy idea. I love it! Good luck on your quest! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddyBear89 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 A suggestion - inform co-workers that you are an old school video game collector and if they have anything boxed up and stored away that you'd be interested. This worked very well for me (after the strange "you still play Atari?!?!?" looks and comments) and netted me a few nice items for free or on the very cheap. While we are all big fans of these golden oldies most other folk view them as clutter that they just can't seem to throw out. Results may vary but best of luck on your very cool quest! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 43 minutes ago, glazball said: Starting a 2600 collection from scratch in 2021?? Wow, that sounds like a crazy idea. I love it! Good luck on your quest! I know right? I have a good feeling though...I think I can do this! 16 minutes ago, TeddyBear89 said: A suggestion - inform co-workers that you are an old school video game collector and if they have anything boxed up and stored away that you'd be interested. This worked very well for me (after the strange "you still play Atari?!?!?" looks and comments) and netted me a few nice items for free or on the very cheap. While we are all big fans of these golden oldies most other folk view them as clutter that they just can't seem to throw out. Results may vary but best of luck on your very cool quest! Yeah, I totally exhausted all those options long ago but it DID work and is sound advice! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockduck Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I have a bit over 350 uniques from the 404 list, but have hit a real wall in recent years. That last bit is a nightmare both in pricing and availability! Good luck. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 37 minutes ago, Mockduck said: I have a bit over 350 uniques from the 404 list, but have hit a real wall in recent years. That last bit is a nightmare both in pricing and availability! Good luck. Been there before, part of the reason I lost interest in them honestly. I made the mistake of cashing out and going for CIB stuff (to keep the hunt alive lol) but that got too rich for my blood (even in the old days) This time around I'm just going R8 and below which I think is feasible What the cost will end up being though....? Hoping I can keep it realistic for my wallet haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 Okay, finished the "wallet list" so I'm ready to rock. I left the one shots off and some of the super rare stuff, I mean I doubt I'll get to a point where I have to worry about buying Boing or Glib twice, you tend to remember the big ones, at least my bank account will haha 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremiahjt Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Have you ever detailed your original collection hunt or the later liquidation of the collection anywhere? Curious how it went back then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGameCollector Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) One thing is certain. It can be overwhelming to organize a large collection when over half of it is in a storage unit and you have to re-inventory everything because things were stolen, you moved because of it, but only brought home what you wanted to play at the time. I feel like in order to get back into it I have to clear off at least 1 shelf, start over and just list my collection a game at a time, perhaps making a case and maybe even manual when possible for each game as I go. I really ought to play each one for at least a little while too. I want to re-buy parts of my old collection that I sold. I just re-bought Robot Tank last week because I saw it at a local store for $5. I didn't even realize I was missing it until I looked at a checklist on my old computer from a few years ago. I should keep my 3 year old want list, make sure I'm still missing what it said I'm missing and just add to it as I go. Also delete anything I bought since I last updated the list. I brought home a stack of favorite Atari 2600 cartridges last time I went to my storage, so I can start with those. I just need to buy some blank cases, a color laser printer and some quality paper. Ooh I think I figured something out. The Universal Game Case I got with my Genesis Everdrive in 2011 seems a little too thin. The Atari 2600 game causes it to bow a little. Unless that is not a real UGC and the real UGCs are thicker like those old rental cases. I think I might decide to just buy a bunch of blank NES custom game cases and use those with the Atari games laying sideways. Even Atari 5200 carts fit in there facing that way, and they have manual holders. Since I will be reprinting manuals, I could shrink them to fit the case. Then I could just glue foam into the unused space like StoneAgeGamer does with some of their products to make them fit better in a case. Since I am already using a lot of custom game cases products for other systems, it probably just makes more sense for me to use them. Edited November 4, 2021 by TheGameCollector 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 12 hours ago, jeremiahjt said: Have you ever detailed your original collection hunt or the later liquidation of the collection anywhere? Curious how it went back then. Unfortunately no real topics about it, etc.. Some of it was pretty interesting stories though, I should write it up "short story" style one of these days haha Since smart phones weren't really a thing yet I didn't take many pictures either, the ones I did are probably sitting on some rotting digital camera SD card that I've long forgotten in a drawer somewhere lol. I do have these 2 pics of when I switched to boxed stuff (This was around the peak of how far I got CIB) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) Okay, got my first LOT of games in the mail (thank you forum member cobra kai!) This box of 50 games ended up running me $131 shipped. Not a bad deal at all, especially since mario and xeno aren't $5 games anymore. Also included quite a few instruction manuals! This lot was really more about the quantity though, needed a good "jump start" on the pile...at 105 games now I'd say I'm moving along nicely ? Current collection - 105 games $208 invested to date Edited November 4, 2021 by Crazy Climber 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) Do'h, looks like I bought Haunted house and Empire stikes back TWICE...I was being so careful not to do that too haha Trade pile (yeah, pretty weak now but just wait) Edited November 4, 2021 by Crazy Climber picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 350. Tanks But No Tanks / Tank Brigade by Panda / Phantom Tank by Bit Corp 355. Cruise Missile / Exocet by Panda 357. Sea Hawk / Sea Hawk by Panda 090. Sky Diver / Dare Diver 092. Space War / Space Combat 002. Air Sea Battle / Target Fun 006. Atari Video Cube / Rubik's Cube 010. Basic Math / Fun with Numbers 046. Hangman / Spelling 047. Human Cannonball / Cannon Man 050. Home Run / Baseball 054. Indy 500 / Race 058. Maze Craze / Maze Mania 062. Miniature Golf / Arcade Golf I count these as different carts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari_Bill Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 6 hours ago, Crazy Climber said: Unfortunately no real topics about it, etc.. Some of it was pretty interesting stories though, I should write it up "short story" style one of these days haha Since smart phones weren't really a thing yet I didn't take many pictures either, the ones I did are probably sitting on some rotting digital camera SD card that I've long forgotten in a drawer somewhere lol. I do have these 2 pics of when I switched to boxed stuff (This was around the peak of how far I got CIB) Wow, were those Commavid boxes real? Those are some heavyweights! As an aside, I’m in the middle of selling off my extra stock compiled over 25+ years. I haven’t got to post the 2600 stuff yet, but I will have some pretty decent pieces in there. No 9 rarities, but there could be some 7-8. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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