Frozone212 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Nintendo has moved on with the Switch so is it still worth it to own a wii? What do the games go for nowadays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_B Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Yeah, I'd think so. Although a lot of the more high profile Wii and Wii U games have been ported to the Switch there are still a heck of a lot that haven't. Game prices are all over the place. You can pick up most of the library for under $10 - sometimes in job lots - but expect to be spending 10-20x that for something rare and collectable like Radiant Dawn or The Last Story. They're very hackable machines too. A soft-modded Wii U not only plays Wii/Wii U games natively but also GameCube ones and can be used as an emulator box for all their prior home systems and the handhelds up to the DS. The Wii is a fair bit less capable but you still get GameCube compatibility for free, at least with the early models. There's also a bit of a scene for turning Wii units into handhelds. Kits were being sold at one point even, although they're sold out now and you'd have to source the parts yourself if you wanted to go down that route. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaki Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 If you don't mind the lack of HD resolutions/HDMI, the Wii is a pretty versatile machine. The eShop is dead now, but when it was still around, you had a lot of additional options there. I've been able to grab a lot of titles at cheap prices (<$10), but some are worth a bit more. I've still got some gaps in my library that need filling. And like Matt_B said, the Wii makes an awesome emulation box, especially if you have a CRT, a lot of emulators support 240p. And it's really easy to soft mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 You can kill a week of evenings with just a Wii & Wii Sports Resort alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youxia Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) It's the best Gamecube "emulator" (practically the real thing), also a very decent and cheap emu box in general (runs everything well but MAME). As an added bonus it connects to CRTs with ease and delivers perfect RGB 240p without need for expensive cables. Edited November 16, 2021 by youxia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Pendleton Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 The last Just Dance for the Wii was released in 2019, so it's dead now. Consider that the Gamecube has better video output for Gamecube games and the Wii U can give you Wii games over HDMI before you actually buy a Wii. It is extremely easy to hack the Wii, though, and you can run games from its SD card. The Wii runs Gamecube games natively instead of emulating them from what I understand, and I believe that hacked Wii Us do as well. I am not certain if Wii + OSSC or whatever gives better quality video than Wii U's native HDMI because I'm too lazy to test it to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youxia Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 32 minutes ago, Steven Pendleton said: Consider that the Gamecube has better video output for Gamecube games You'd need to spend fortune on cables for a minuscule improvement in quality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Pendleton Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 41 minutes ago, youxia said: You'd need to spend fortune on cables for a minuscule improvement in quality. If you have a PAL Gamecube, why do that when you can use the HD Retrovision SNES cable on your PAL Gamecube instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejay Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 It’s an outdated console. But like anything, the user base is still active. The Wii is hacked wide open, so homebrew and piracy is trivial. However, if you can afford it, you should just get a Wii U instead. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Pendleton Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, bluejay said: It’s an outdated console. But like anything, the user base is still active. The Wii is hacked wide open, so homebrew and piracy is trivial. However, if you can afford it, you should just get a Wii U instead. ^ correct answer 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youxia Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Steven Pendleton said: If you have a PAL Gamecube, why do that when you can use the HD Retrovision SNES cable on your PAL Gamecube instead? if you don't happen to already have a PAL Gamecube, why jump through hoops and spend extra money for minuscule improvement in IQ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Pendleton Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, youxia said: if you don't happen to already have a PAL Gamecube, why jump through hoops and spend extra money for minuscule improvement in IQ? That's why I said "if" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 I packed mine away, but dumped all my discs and WiiWare games and now run them under Dolphin when I need a fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_B Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Dolphin is certainly an option. It's now at the stage where it'll emulate all the Wii and GameCube games that anyone gives a damn about. There'll be a few glitches here and there, so it's perhaps not the best way to experience new games, but almost all of them are playable end to end on it. It's also not terribly demanding, to the extent that a lot of handheld devices can run it. Wii U emulation has a long way to go though, as you'll only get about half the library with Cemu, albeit skewed heavily towards the better exclusives. Breath of the Wild is pretty much flawless on it now though, and I'd even say that it's the best way to play the game with mods; they're quite fiddly to install on the real hardware and often too demanding for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozone212 Posted November 18, 2021 Author Share Posted November 18, 2021 so is the games shop on the wii dead? I can't buy any more games from the shop? well, that sucks. No mario or zelda for me then. that sucks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Pendleton Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 (edited) Yeah, the Wii's online store died some time ago. Just go buy physical copies. It's the Wii. They made a LOT of copies of all of the major Wii games and they should still be cheap. Wii U's online store is still alive for now, though, and I think you can get some Wii games there. Edited November 18, 2021 by Steven Pendleton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Steven Pendleton said: Yeah, the Wii's online store died some time ago. Just go buy physical copies. It's the Wii. They made a LOT of copies of all of the major Wii games and they should still be cheap. Wii U's online store is still alive for now, though, and I think you can get some Wii games there. The Wii didn't work that way. The games on physical disc were not in the Wii shop, the WiiWare games that were available there were never available on disc that I'm aware of. It was like they Wii had two completely separate game libraries, one physical only the other digital only. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dangerous Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 I mean what console is really dead these days? The Wii requires no updates. I'm sure we'll see some releases down the road a bit; from Limited Run games or the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PressureCooker2600 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 I still have my Wii. It’s fun. I also use it for my GameCube games since I don’t have the actual GameCube hooked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_B Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 4 hours ago, Rick Dangerous said: I mean what console is really dead these days? The Wii requires no updates. I'm sure we'll see some releases down the road a bit; from Limited Run games or the like. It's already happening. Shakedown Hawaii and Retro City Rampage got physical releases last year. They'll probably be few and far between though because disc releases require a fairly substantial production run just to break even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots.genoa Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 The Wii was released fifteen years ago. When you think about it, it's (almost) like complaining you couldn't find ColecoVision games easily anymore when the Dreamcast was released in 1998. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaki Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 10 hours ago, zzip said: The Wii didn't work that way. The games on physical disc were not in the Wii shop, the WiiWare games that were available there were never available on disc that I'm aware of. It was like they Wii had two completely separate game libraries, one physical only the other digital only. Right, but maybe Frozone was looking forward to Virtual Console? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 13 hours ago, Rick Dangerous said: I mean what console is really dead these days? The Wii requires no updates. I'm sure we'll see some releases down the road a bit; from Limited Run games or the like. Not in North America. Nintendo if America was unable to go through the certification process for Wii games when those releases happened in Europe, which is why we didn't get Retro City Rampage DX and Shakedown Hawaii on disc for Wii (And why the latter was ported to the Wii U for North America since NOA hadn't quite disassembled the infrastructure for Wii U physical releases; I assume they figured the WiiWare release of RCR would suffice for Wii U owners so didn't port that one). Very safe to say that we won't be seeing any more physical Wii releases. Maybe someday years down the road we'll see some company release something masquerading as one, but it would only play on a hacked Wii. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_B Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 15 hours ago, Atariboy said: Not in North America. Nintendo if America was unable to go through the certification process for Wii games when those releases happened in Europe, which is why we didn't get Retro City Rampage DX and Shakedown Hawaii on disc for Wii (And why the latter was ported to the Wii U for North America since NOA hadn't quite disassembled the infrastructure for Wii U physical releases; I assume they figured the WiiWare release of RCR would suffice for Wii U owners so didn't port that one). Very safe to say that we won't be seeing any more physical Wii releases. Maybe someday years down the road we'll see some company release something masquerading as one, but it would only play on a hacked Wii. Thanks. That was an interesting read. I'd rather assumed that the games were homebrew releases, but it makes it even better that they managed to squeak through the official process. I suppose that explains why they needed a production run of 3000 units too; it's an expensive business compared to homebrew carts where the economics tend to work better when you keep the numbers small. Any future releases would obviously have to run unsigned code but it's already possible to do this on a Wii that hasn't been hacked via various exploits. I'll be quietly optimistic that there will be releases to come that you can just pop in and play without having to Bluebomb your machine first. They'll just have to forego the logos and seal of quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozone212 Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 I was looking forward to the VC. My one chance to play PC engine, NES, GB or or Gamecube games without rental or emulation is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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