Atari SA releasing limited run 2600 cartridges.

[Gunther]

1 hour ago, jgkspsx said:

This is kind of the “No True Scotsman” fallacy. Well, the REAL Atari ended when Warner bought it. Well, the REAL Atari ended when Nolan was fired. Well, the REAL Atari ended when Al Alcorn left, or David Crane, or HSW, or so on. Well, the REAL Atari ended when Tramiel took over Atari Inc. Well, the REAL Atari ended when Infogrames bought them. And so on.

 

Me, I don’t really care what is “real”. The prices they are charging for these are in line with homebrew from anybody else. They seem to be trying hard to present these in a historically relevant way, and doing so with a humility and an openness to improvement that is rare in the videogame industry (after admittedly a HORRIBLE announcement window for this line). I really like the Recharged series and the NuVCS controllers, I think they’ve done about as well with the NuVCS as was possible for a fairly confusing concept, and I’m excited about the new games they’re publishing.

 

There are a lot of people whose reach exceeds their grasp in the “retro reboot” arena, and Atari SA seems to have a better reach/grasp ratio than most if you ignore the crypto and hotel and speakerhat stuff and just focus on the games.

The added developer tools are exciting.

[Gunther]

9 hours ago, MrMaddog said:

If this is how the new Atari fans that just came here are going to act, then I want nothing to do with this French "brand squatter" that only bought the name of the original company... ?

 

And the same goes to so-called retrogamers who are only into collecting and hoarding...

grow-up.

[Hydro Thunder]

11 hours ago, Gunther said:

grow-up.

Are you TRYING to get banned now? AA isn’t a place that puts up with this nonsense.

Just take a deep breath before you post, and try to be constructive/ informative.

[+jgkspsx]

1 hour ago, Hydro Thunder said:

Are you TRYING to get banned now? AA isn’t a place that puts up with this nonsense.

Just take a deep breath before you post, and try to be constructive/ informative.

AA seems to be put up with a lot of incredibly harsh attacks on people who like having physical copies of games from the “you’re a hoarder!!!!” contingent (and while @MrMaddog was being really negative there too I mean even more abusive stuff).
 

Funnily enough I don’t see any of these people who hate people having physical collections posting times in the game tracker or participating in high score challenges or the high score threads or generally acting like they actually even play video games themselves ?‍♂️ 
 

Generally the world would be a better place if people just let people live their own lives in peace unless they’re actually hurting somebody else. Why y’all get so angry and obsessed with how other people spend their free money is really beyond me.

[Albert]

9 minutes ago, jgkspsx said:

AA seems to be put up with a lot of incredibly harsh attacks on people who like having physical copies of games from the “you’re a hoarder!!!!” contingent (and while @MrMaddog was being really negative there too I mean even more abusive stuff).

That's not true, we don't "put up" with "incredibly harsh attacks on people", I feel you are greatly exaggerating there.  If you see things that you feel warrant the attention of a moderator, please use the report function, otherwise we may miss it.  And, you know, I run a store where virtually everything I sell is physical copies of games, so I personally have no interest in seeing people being attacked for buying and/or owning them, regardless of why someone may want to own physical copies of games (which is really nobody's business).

11 minutes ago, jgkspsx said:

Generally the world would be a better place if people just let people live their own lives in peace unless they’re actually hurting somebody else. Why y’all get so angry and obsessed with how other people spend their free money is really beyond me.

Yes, I wholeheartedly agree with this.

 

 ..Al

[Leonard Smith]

34 minutes ago, Albert said:

That's not true, we don't "put up" with "incredibly harsh attacks on people", I feel you are greatly exaggerating there.  If you see things that you feel warrant the attention of a moderator, please use the report function, otherwise we may miss it.

You may want to take an occasional stroll into the Jaguar Forum...  ?

[+jgkspsx]

I think you do a good job generally. But I did report @Leonard Smith’s post spuriously and maliciously calling a long-time poster he thought had too much stuff a pedophile, and his extremely negative personal attack of a post is still up albeit with the incredibly serious libel removed, so I don’t know what to make of that.

[Leonard Smith]

1 minute ago, jgkspsx said:

I think you do a good job generally. But I did report @Leonard Smith’s post spuriously and maliciously calling a long-time poster he thought had too much stuff a pedophile, and his extremely negative personal attack of a post is still up albeit with the incredibly serious libel removed, so I don’t know what to make of that.

Maybe you should practice what you preach and stop worrying about what others post.  

[Albert]

5 minutes ago, Leonard Smith said:

You may want to take an occasional stroll into the Jaguar Forum...  ?

Quite a few of your posts have been reported, but I haven't dug into them yet.  So I'd tread lightly with statements like this.

 

 ..Al

[Leonard Smith]

1 minute ago, Albert said:

Quite a few of your posts have been reported, but I haven't dug into them yet.  So I'd tread lightly with statements like this.

 

 ..Al

Lol, I had no idea.  

[Gunther]

https://atarixp.com/blogs/discover/saboteurs-place-in-the-yarniverse-and-what-it-tells-us

[nadir]

1 hour ago, Gunther said:

https://atarixp.com/blogs/discover/saboteurs-place-in-the-yarniverse-and-what-it-tells-us

I am enjoying those "Discover" blog posts as they come up!

[Gunther]

They are excellent.

[+Neon Wraith]

1 hour ago, Gunther said:

https://atarixp.com/blogs/discover/saboteurs-place-in-the-yarniverse-and-what-it-tells-us

Well, this is interesting.  It seems that Atari and HSW are establishing a series, creating a character universe if you will.  Next thing you know, Bentley Bear will be donning a space suit and flying in to save the Yar!

[Gunther]

On 3/25/2022 at 5:05 PM, Hydro Thunder said:

Are you TRYING to get banned now? AA isn’t a place that puts up with this nonsense.

Just take a deep breath before you post, and try to be constructive/ informative.

Apologies.

Again, I'm wasn't trying to offend or disrespect anybody in any way.

I should've tread a little more carefully.

 

I like the way that ATARI XP has made great efforts to correct and credit all the people involved in these games creation.

 

I hope that the ATARI XP Discover blog will publish an article about Curt Vendall; that would be excellent reading.

 

 

Edited March 26, 2022 by Gunther

[Mayhem]

Bit late coming back to the party here (that's what life, work, looking for a new place, my daughter, and writing for Zzap do)... but to echo the previous sentiment, the "current" brand of "Atari" is just a label, and has nothing to do with the original company. That ended in 1998 when the name and assets got sold to Hasbro. In the same way the original Activision ended when Mediagenic bought it (ironically later renaming itself back to Activision). No different to the plethora of Commodore branded items out there, it's a name only. Considering Curt and Roman's contribution to the 2600 scene in general, them doing something is way more official in my eyes than anything Atari SA does.

[+Andrew Davie]

In my view, it is our community and the people who have contributed to it who define "the brand" and what is has been over the last 25 years or so. There's an enormous amount of history, work and passion that you don't get to own when you buy the rights to a name. Owners of the company/name have come and gone over the years, and will continue to do so. But the brand name and the brand "essence" are two different things. You can own the name; you can't own the love. I'd rather see people support those in the community who are making new stuff, those whose love and passion contribute to our community. Really, @Albert you should have put in a bid to buy the brand when Hasbro was selling it.

 

[+Nathan Strum]

2 hours ago, Andrew Davie said:

Really, @Albert you should have put in a bid to buy the brand when Hasbro was selling it.

He may yet get the chance again.

 

[Tempest]

Ouch!  I actually hope this incarnation of Atari works out as they seem to be interfacing with the community rather than being adversarial.  If another company decides to buy the Atari assets and decides that they're going pull a Nintendo and clamp down hard on IP then lots of fan sites could be in trouble.

[+wongojack]

On 3/20/2022 at 11:13 PM, groundtrooper said:

The FB2 titles were a VERY limited offering a long time ago. Curt Vendel and CPUWIZ collaborated on the set from what I understand. I have read and heard that there were only 5-6 sets offered.

There were 11 games in the set.


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I remember this . . . were the roms ever shared publicly for these?

 

Edit:  https://atariage.com/forums/topic/281640-atari-flashback-2-games/

 

[+groundtrooper]

To my knowledge the have never been “Officially” released.


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[Gunther]

13 hours ago, groundtrooper said:

To my knowledge the have never been “Officially” released.


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Don't state the obvious; they'll threaten banning.

The 'COMPANY' known as ATARI have never officially released these games on cartridge before, ever!

This isn't a dig at anyone that was involved in them (as they're being credited on these very releases), it's just a fact!

[Tempest]

7 hours ago, Gunther said:

Don't state the obvious; they'll threaten banning.

Huh?  What the heck are you talking about?

[hizzy]

I would buy Yars' Return if it is an improvement over the FB version. I don't know if I have the same rom as everyone else, but it plays badly on emulation. I will try it on a harmony.

 

Saboteur from the AA store has a great box!

[Tempest]

27 minutes ago, hizzy said:

Saboteur from the AA store has a great box!

And a nice manual, but I may be a little biased...