+x=usr(1536) Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 6 hours ago, AlecRob said: Fingers crossed. It will be nice to finally see how the VCS performs in the real world. Spoiler Poorly. 1 7 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/327296-the-atari-vcs-controversies-thread/page/84/#findComment-4692105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCAT Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, AtariLeaf said: The Atari VCS is the rise of Skywalker of consoles. You know it's going to suck but you still have to see how it ends Yes, I have invested too much time following the console trainwreck I must know how it ends. I mean going into ? ?♂️Batman & Robin you knew it was going to be Hot garbage but batman fans had to see it, they did not even try to make it seem like it had any potential, at the start of the movie you knew.... you knew... ? Edited December 5, 2020 by OCAT 1 4 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/327296-the-atari-vcs-controversies-thread/page/84/#findComment-4692167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 hour ago, OCAT said: Yes, I have invested too much time following the console trainwreck I must know how it ends. I mean going into ? ?♂️Batman & Robin you knew it was going to be Hot garbage but batman fans had to see it, they did not even try to make it seem like it had any potential, at the start of the movie you knew.... you knew... ? I contend that "no news is good news" is the Atari's ass-zipper moment 5 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/327296-the-atari-vcs-controversies-thread/page/84/#findComment-4692234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCAT Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) No-Effort-November has been over for 5 days now, Atari cannot give any more half baked lame reasons why the console is not shipping. Con permiso, Atari. The hall is rented, the orchestra engaged. It's now time to see if you can dance. ??? Edited December 5, 2020 by OCAT 3 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/327296-the-atari-vcs-controversies-thread/page/84/#findComment-4692425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 36 minutes ago, OCAT said: No-Effort-November has been over for 5 days now, Atari cannot give any more half baked lame reasons why the console is not shipping. Con permiso, Atari. The hall is rented, the orchestra engaged. It's now time to see if you can dance. ??? That's not a dance, it's a full blown seizure. 5 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/327296-the-atari-vcs-controversies-thread/page/84/#findComment-4692447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_B Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 16 hours ago, AlecRob said: Fingers crossed. It will be nice to finally see how the VCS performs in the real world. Is there really much doubt? It's got the specs of a $200 laptop and we already know how well they perform. About the only way it could surprise us is if it's somehow even worse than that. Perhaps there's some bottleneck in the architecture somewhere that'll make it even slower than expected? Maybe they've stuffed up the cooling and it throttles? Maybe the power supplies are too fragile and you can't leave it on for any length of time without them overheating? When they've had an eighteen month overrun just to get the thing made, there's probably not been too much of that time dedicated to making sure that the engineering is rock solid, so I'd guess that anything is possible. 5 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/327296-the-atari-vcs-controversies-thread/page/84/#findComment-4692500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy the Atarian Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 I can't wait to see someone attempt to run Cyberpunk 2077 at 4k on it. Then they'll see their console do something it's never done before! 1 8 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/327296-the-atari-vcs-controversies-thread/page/84/#findComment-4692539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 No, that will never happen. It can't run games from 2012 in 720p let alone this fancy new stuff. but hey - Netflix, remember. Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/327296-the-atari-vcs-controversies-thread/page/84/#findComment-4692568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACODON Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 So I'm just thinking out loud here... but what if even Netflix doesn't work? Like what if streaming online videos is overkill? Will Atari be able overcome that loss of the all important mom market? 2 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/327296-the-atari-vcs-controversies-thread/page/84/#findComment-4692613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy the Atarian Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Stephen said: No, that will never happen. It can't run games from 2012 in 720p let alone this fancy new stuff. but hey - Netflix, remember. My bad, I forget that Atari's former statements and implications from 2017, along with those from the VCS FB fanboard about it coming in to "kill the PS5" don't count. I can't wait to see what happens when people attempt to run Cyberpunk 2077 at 320p, lowest settings! 2 4 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/327296-the-atari-vcs-controversies-thread/page/84/#findComment-4692640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_B Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 It'll be more like Cyberpunk 1977. 11 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/327296-the-atari-vcs-controversies-thread/page/84/#findComment-4692736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamm Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Good news! I was able to get an early screenshot of Cyberpunk 1977 (CP77) running on the new VCS! Note that this is an early development shot -- the final version may lose a little detail here and there in order to maintain acceptable performance on release hardware. 1 12 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/327296-the-atari-vcs-controversies-thread/page/84/#findComment-4692862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCAT Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 " Danger Scavenger a fast-paced action, cyberpunk-themed..."... Yup, use the word "Cyberpunk" to get some interest in a cartoony game, This is what Atari VCS gets, a flash game I played many years ago, and at the bottom is what people expected. They got Cyber Punk'd out of $ 2 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/327296-the-atari-vcs-controversies-thread/page/84/#findComment-4692869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 I love how the VCS can't even get watered-down mobile games. 2 5 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/327296-the-atari-vcs-controversies-thread/page/84/#findComment-4692903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCAT Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 3 hours ago, godslabrat said: I love how the VCS can't even get watered-down mobile games. Well, Amico intellivision has those covered already ? 2 11 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/327296-the-atari-vcs-controversies-thread/page/84/#findComment-4692910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlecRob Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/5/2020 at 6:57 PM, Matt_B said: Is there really much doubt? It's got the specs of a $200 laptop and we already know how well they perform. About the only way it could surprise us is if it's somehow even worse than that. Perhaps there's some bottleneck in the architecture somewhere that'll make it even slower than expected? Maybe they've stuffed up the cooling and it throttles? Maybe the power supplies are too fragile and you can't leave it on for any length of time without them overheating? When they've had an eighteen month overrun just to get the thing made, there's probably not been too much of that time dedicated to making sure that the engineering is rock solid, so I'd guess that anything is possible. They've literally had years to make the engineering rock solid lol 1 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/327296-the-atari-vcs-controversies-thread/page/84/#findComment-4693330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, AlecRob said: They've literally had years to make the engineering rock solid lol I'll take 'thermal issues' for $200, Alex. 2 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/327296-the-atari-vcs-controversies-thread/page/84/#findComment-4693352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, x=usr(1536) said: I'll take 'thermal issues' for $200, Alex. My money is on the PSU, nobody has seen it yet, coincidence? Maybe a C64 PSU, those are reliable. 1 4 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/327296-the-atari-vcs-controversies-thread/page/84/#findComment-4693368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlecRob Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 So, in light of everything up till now... what would be the best case scenario? XD Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/327296-the-atari-vcs-controversies-thread/page/84/#findComment-4693413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, AlecRob said: So, in light of everything up till now... what would be the best case scenario? XD Refunds for all. 4 5 9 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/327296-the-atari-vcs-controversies-thread/page/84/#findComment-4693429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsus Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 28 minutes ago, Shawn said: Refunds for all. This wins the Internet today! 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/327296-the-atari-vcs-controversies-thread/page/84/#findComment-4693436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotterpop Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/5/2020 at 11:47 PM, Shaggy the Atarian said: My bad, I forget that Atari's former statements and implications from 2017, along with those from the VCS FB fanboard about it coming in to "kill the PS5" don't count. I can't wait to see what happens when people attempt to run Cyberpunk 2077 at 320p, lowest settings! Haha, excellent Chopping Mall reference ? Get ready to lower your expectations, backers! 5 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/327296-the-atari-vcs-controversies-thread/page/84/#findComment-4693608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 7 hours ago, Shawn said: Refunds for all. Aside from that, which is truly the Best Answer(TM), I would say: 1- Device is released, everyone who bought one gets it. 2- YouTube goes nuts for two weeks while every shill talks about how cool it is, and creates "hacking" videos that are indistinguishable from Raspberry Pi projects. 3- Atari almost immediately stops acknowledging the project, claims the shipped units are "a special gift for the true fans" or some garbage, and casts doubt that there will be a second run. 4- Five diehard fans continue to tinker with it endlessly. No one else cares. 5- A year later, Atari announces another cash grab. The cycle begins anew. 10 1 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/327296-the-atari-vcs-controversies-thread/page/84/#findComment-4693614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolRetroGamer Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 25 minutes ago, godslabrat said: Aside from that, which is truly the Best Answer(TM), I would say: 1- Device is released, everyone who bought one gets it. 2- YouTube goes nuts for two weeks while every shill talks about how cool it is, and creates "hacking" videos that are indistinguishable from Raspberry Pi projects. 3- Atari almost immediately stops acknowledging the project, claims the shipped units are "a special gift for the true fans" or some garbage, and casts doubt that there will be a second run. 4- Five diehard fans continue to tinker with it endlessly. No one else cares. 5- A year later, Atari announces another cash grab. The cycle begins anew. 2 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/327296-the-atari-vcs-controversies-thread/page/84/#findComment-4693634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aramis Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, CPUWIZ said: My money is on the PSU, nobody has seen it yet, coincidence? Maybe a C64 PSU, those are reliable. I wonder if pesky things like regulatory compliance are holding it up, especially for the PSU...you know, since the barrel jack on the VCS was labeled "AC" in the last photos we saw (without even a voltage stated, and we know it must be DC), and (for the EU) the EN 60950-1 standard ceases to exist on Dec 20th and EN 62368-1 takes over. Oh, and REACH for the EU has a new regulation in effect come Jan 5th. I would bet a couple of bucks that Atari forgot regulatory compliance is even a thing, let alone understanding it means different things in different countries. Edited December 7, 2020 by aramis 4 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/327296-the-atari-vcs-controversies-thread/page/84/#findComment-4693653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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