Atari St Monitor

[Shift838]

On 12/7/2021 at 12:24 AM, vkcpolice said:

Hi All

Im new to the forum i have moved here across from vogons as someone said that i may get more support here with my new atari st computer.

I have recently purchased an Atari St 520 and need a vga monitor for it. i have the vga adapter that the computer uses but i am looking for anyone that can recommend a lcd monitor

that is readily available to purchase in Australia.

i am also looking to replace the original floppy drive with a gotek but my atari has a strange floppy drive and i am not sure what gotek or 3d printed case i would need to buy.

please see the pics of my computer to help with this.

 

 

 

 

Here is the monitor that I use on my A500 and Atari ST via VGA.  This monitor supports 15kHz in VGA natively.

 

Dell 22 Monitor - P2222H 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B096W3MV83?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

[Chri O.]

14 hours ago, Shift838 said:

This monitor supports 15kHz in VGA natively

Are you sure about that❓

I think you need this: Dell SE2722H 27" Full HD (1920 x 1080) 75Hz LED Monitor

A new 27 inch monitor that is available and works 100%!

[+DarkLord]

I think he means he can do hi-res with the 22" monitor on the ST.

 

At least that's my understanding of how it works - the 27" is required

for all 3 ST resolutions...

 

[Chri O.]

mono – black and white – 640×400 resolution, 35KHz horizontal frequency, 71Hz vertical frequency – which is available on most VGA monitors.

Color 320×200, horizontal frequency 15KHz, vertical frequency 50 or 60Hz, which is a bit of a problem these days.

[Shift838]

2 hours ago, Chri O. said:

Are you sure about that❓

I think you need this: Dell SE2722H 27" Full HD (1920 x 1080) 75Hz LED Monitor

A new 27 inch monitor that is available and works 100%!

I am positive the DELL 22 inch P2222H supports VGA at 15kHz, that is what I am using on both my Atari Mega ST4 and Amiga 500.  Here is a photo of the Atari Mega ST4.  I am using my Atari ST2VGA adapter that I designed HERE:

 

5:4 ratio

 

16:9 Ratio

 

[+DarkLord]

Are these the same 2 monitors? Maybe there's a difference...

 

That's from this thread:

 

 

 

[Jfcatari]

There must be a difference.... I have the Dell P2222H and it does NOT work in all resolutions on my ST.

 

I have two of the 27" models and they do work in ALL resolutions

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/225852248295?epid=16048194503&hash=item3495d7d0e7:g:zFEAAOSwiFZky4Zc&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwKt4fFH639O7liwqzTkWt4%2Fgdw2S5We3wc%2BG%2BO%2BMxSifwm9wfpSBc5vb%2BxSxYeyB0zDdZJTc4hS4chSDkdcvwtEfM%2FOSh40XDrkNNJU9kvVRkKhUX0kjW6ZEDD5hJxPQgINGXZHdQdsqypSs2IMQsSeTo%2BM6DklmEGCYlfme9bX4SM2SoeJVR4yujP6Nhr5KnISbEneXbM0T40B90LfN3NMAgFq0W%2Fh2KvmXDChjGzIKYNvWGu8MXbce3FXrYpblSg%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR86o1OaKYw

 

 

[Shift838]

4 minutes ago, Jfcatari said:

There must be a difference.... I have the Dell P2222H and it does NOT work in all resolutions on my ST.

 

I have two of the 27" models and they do work in ALL resolutions

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/225852248295?epid=16048194503&hash=item3495d7d0e7:g:zFEAAOSwiFZky4Zc&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwKt4fFH639O7liwqzTkWt4%2Fgdw2S5We3wc%2BG%2BO%2BMxSifwm9wfpSBc5vb%2BxSxYeyB0zDdZJTc4hS4chSDkdcvwtEfM%2FOSh40XDrkNNJU9kvVRkKhUX0kjW6ZEDD5hJxPQgINGXZHdQdsqypSs2IMQsSeTo%2BM6DklmEGCYlfme9bX4SM2SoeJVR4yujP6Nhr5KnISbEneXbM0T40B90LfN3NMAgFq0W%2Fh2KvmXDChjGzIKYNvWGu8MXbce3FXrYpblSg%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR86o1OaKYw

 

 

My P2222H works in all resolutions, low, medium and HIGH.  I purchased mine about 2 months ago.

[Jfcatari]

Here is the full model number on the 22" that I have.

    Dell P2222H 21.5" Monitor 1920x1080 60Hz 8ms IPS LED DELL-P2222HTAA

 

What is on your 22" monitor?

 

I would love to get to the bottom of what is going on.

Edited December 11, 2023 by Jfcatari

[Chri O.]

1 hour ago, Jfcatari said:

I would love to get to the bottom of what is going on.

Me 2 !?

[Atari030]

The Gotek is easy sorted in Australia, Ray is a good guy;

 

Gotek Floppy Emulator, Oled,Rotary,Amiga,Atari ST,Amstrad etc $60.00 | Other Electronics & Computers | Gumtree Australia Hobsons Bay Area - Williamstown | 1319801528

 

Then get a mate to 3d print a cradle for it;

 

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5882098

 

Job done. For a monitor you can get this from JB, pretty sure this is the one that gets a solid mention here ? (correct me if I'm wrong). Its very much PAL land here;

 

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/dell-se2722h-27-full-hd-monitor

 

And grab an adapter from Kodak80 in Queensland;

 

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/143977350007

 

Then you should be in business.

[atarian1]

I think this is the same situation with my Dell U2412M. The earlier models seem to work with the ST/Amiga, but my later version does not.

 

Let's compare serial numbers, where it was made, manufacturing date, and other info on the box and the back of the monitor to get to the bottom of this mystery! I'm interested in a smaller monitor too.

 

[Jfcatari]

Here are the labels from my Dell P2222H that does NOT work in all resolutions:
 

Larger label:

 

Smaller label :

[vkcpolice]

Hi all i have the monitor issue sorted.

im just trying to figer out a way to get a goteck to fit in my long drive case thanks

does anyone know if this will fit in my case with the long button https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/266335097245?hash=item3e02cf119d:g:vsMAAOSww3VksZno&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4P62ppW2t4ycuPxTGs59n2mKNlE5XVOwcAfVMlMVMOdfCxRfPecSg%2BIDMb0ivhIbimihbq33ptTk9zWqb4p%2FBQzXwjNf2PoIwi3z4t%2FjYo4YHHes9xKr%2F6dRULWaPSQvujByzUmUV39Y6XsomfJsCeGCRYuoHDDRlDbZPsUZIptz%2BdtuAQKjFiaUjlk3Lw%2FOQRK1z69tX7DuuGydnCHzmnAdRlXUl0v95hREkXLnsZrK%2FndQHMm1mxNLPHMHiVzvtsA%2BPKsG0wAYozkaxAu%2Fyok6%2FEaPx%2FiyVHjYDBvY8KAs|tkp%3ABFBM7PDXpJxj

 

thankyou

Edited January 7 by vkcpolice

[Jfcatari]

1 hour ago, vkcpolice said:

Hi all i have the monitor issue sorted.

im just trying to figer out a way to get a goteck to fit in my long drive case thanks

does anyone know if this will fit in my case with the long button https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/266335097245?hash=item3e02cf119d:g:vsMAAOSww3VksZno&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4P62ppW2t4ycuPxTGs59n2mKNlE5XVOwcAfVMlMVMOdfCxRfPecSg%2BIDMb0ivhIbimihbq33ptTk9zWqb4p%2FBQzXwjNf2PoIwi3z4t%2FjYo4YHHes9xKr%2F6dRULWaPSQvujByzUmUV39Y6XsomfJsCeGCRYuoHDDRlDbZPsUZIptz%2BdtuAQKjFiaUjlk3Lw%2FOQRK1z69tX7DuuGydnCHzmnAdRlXUl0v95hREkXLnsZrK%2FndQHMm1mxNLPHMHiVzvtsA%2BPKsG0wAYozkaxAu%2Fyok6%2FEaPx%2FiyVHjYDBvY8KAs|tkp%3ABFBM7PDXpJxj

 

thankyou

What did you sort out with the monitor issue?

 

 

[vkcpolice]

Hey guys have not been on here for ages. The Monitor solution i got was running rgb scart out to a trans coder that converts the signal to component then i have that running into a retrotink 2x

or the more easily available retro scalier (Chinese retrotink)  the setup is a bit of a mess but it works on every single monitor i throw at it. hope that helps some people. cheers

[Chri O.]

Just my two cents: way too many converters and cables I prefer: Dell SE2722H 27"

$119.99 - available at Dell.

 

Edited August 1 by Chri O.

[vkcpolice]

On 8/1/2024 at 2:38 PM, Chri O. said:

Just my two cents: way too many converters and cables I prefer: Dell SE2722H 27"

$119.99 - available at Dell.

 

yes you are correct there are way too many cables but that dell monitor is way to big for what i need