magnusfalkirk Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 I did follow the directions on the wiki. What I sent in my last message was EXACTLY what the FujiApple output was while it was still connected to the GS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnusfalkirk Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 4:09 PM, mozzwald said: Clearly there is a communication problem here. The entire point of everything done up to now has been to capture debug output from FujiNet WHILE you are using it on the APPLE II. Every command sent to and from FujiNet is spit out on the serial debug monitor. This is the information we need to troubleshoot your issue. Please follow the directions on the wiki, exactly, notably the bold text below: Connect FujiNet to a computer with a MicroUSB cable Run Fujinet-Flasher and select the the correct port used by Fujinet (ie, COM3 on Windows, /dev/ttyUSB0 on linux) Click the Serial Debug Output button in Fujinet-Flasher Press the RESET button on the FujiNet device (Button C, far right) Debug information will appear in the Fujinet-Flasher window Reproduce your problem with FujiNet then select all (CTRL-A) text in the box and copy it (CTRL-C) Paste the debug output to the developer requesting this information If using AtariAge forum, paste the information into a Spoiler box so the debug output does not fill up the thread Optionally, use a paste site such as Pastebin Perhaps the bold line needs reworded. Suggestions welcome. Yeah there definitely seems to be a communications problem. I responded to you THREE days ago and neither of you has decided to respond to me yet. At this point I'm seriously thinking about contacting Masteries and asking him for an address to send the FujiApple back to and then send me a refund of my money. I'll replace this non-functional hunk of junk with a Floppy EMU, since I know those work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 Just now, magnusfalkirk said: Yeah there definitely seems to be a communications problem. I responded to you THREE days ago and neither of you has decided to respond to me yet. At this point I'm seriously thinking about contacting Masteries and asking him for an address to send the FujiApple back to and then send me a refund of my money. I'll replace this non-functional hunk of junk with a Floppy EMU, since I know those work! Please, let's stay calm. we're honestly confused, because the debug information you've sent looks like you've disconnected the device, after flashing it. There are approximately three dozen units in active use at the moment, and they're working as intended, so we're trying to get to the bottom of what the problem might be. -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnusfalkirk Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 hour ago, tschak909 said: Please, let's stay calm. we're honestly confused, because the debug information you've sent looks like you've disconnected the device, after flashing it. There are approximately three dozen units in active use at the moment, and they're working as intended, so we're trying to get to the bottom of what the problem might be. -Thom Beleive me when I say that the unit has been plugged into the back of my ROM 01 GS since mozzwald told me that it neede to be plugged in when I did the debug information, and still is. It's just getting really frustrating that I've had it for a little over a week and haven't been able to use it to even play a game from the SD card. In fact speaking about that I have a question. Why is that after you mount the image, in which ever of the four drive slots you want, your only choices when you tab down to those slots are (E)ject, (R)ead or (W)rite? Why not an option to run the image? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 Because these drive slots are like physical drives. The Apple will always boot the first enumerated SmartPort device, so whatever you want to boot, should be in slot 1. -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masteries Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 7 hours ago, magnusfalkirk said: In fact speaking about that I have a question. Why is that after you mount the image, in which ever of the four drive slots you want, your only choices when you tab down to those slots are (E)ject, (R)ead or (W)rite? Why not an option to run the image? Greetings and Happy New Year mates! Regarding your previous actions, its clear you managed to read from SD card and place the Total Replay.HDV into drive slot 1 " I added SD in in #5 in host list, then selected it. It shows the Total Replay hdv. I select mount and it shows it mounted. How am I able to run the image? Any key I press. ESC, Return, etc takes me back to the host list/drive slots page. In fact now it shows Total Replay in drive slot 1 but pressing w or r and the system locks up. " The problem here appears to be that pressing ESC again, instead of reboot your machine, does nothing and you can´t run images, The reason of this behaviour needs to be researched, due to SmartPort communication is working well, the FujiApple interface can be used and SmartPort device list are detected, At the hardware side there are nothing more, SmartPort interface, SD card interface... at the software side your machine is not rebooted when you press ESC at the most high level Fujinet screen interface, Are there other ways to perform a reboot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 3 hours ago, masteries said: Greetings and Happy New Year mates! Regarding your previous actions, its clear you managed to read from SD card and place the Total Replay.HDV into drive slot 1 " I added SD in in #5 in host list, then selected it. It shows the Total Replay hdv. I select mount and it shows it mounted. How am I able to run the image? Any key I press. ESC, Return, etc takes me back to the host list/drive slots page. In fact now it shows Total Replay in drive slot 1 but pressing w or r and the system locks up. " The problem here appears to be that pressing ESC again, instead of reboot your machine, does nothing and you can´t run images, The reason of this behaviour needs to be researched, due to SmartPort communication is working well, the FujiApple interface can be used and SmartPort device list are detected, At the hardware side there are nothing more, SmartPort interface, SD card interface... at the software side your machine is not rebooted when you press ESC at the most high level Fujinet screen interface, Are there other ways to perform a reboot? The TAB key switches between drive and host slots, ESC is only available in the host slots section currently. Will put on list to add to drive slots section too. The only way to mount and boot currently is via ESC, as the mount all command must be issued by CONFIG, then the system reboots. (otherwise, it just boots right back into CONFIG) -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnusfalkirk Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 12 hours ago, tschak909 said: Because these drive slots are like physical drives. The Apple will always boot the first enumerated SmartPort device, so whatever you want to boot, should be in slot 1. -Thom I've tried the Total replay image in Drive 1 slot and still can't get the FujiApple to boot it. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 There seems to be a disconnect here. When you say "can't get it to boot" explain the exact process that you are using to select and attempt to boot it? The reason I am asking is, there may be an opportunity to improve the UI. -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnusfalkirk Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, tschak909 said: There seems to be a disconnect here. When you say "can't get it to boot" explain the exact process that you are using to select and attempt to boot it? The reason I am asking is, there may be an opportunity to improve the UI. -Thom Step 1) turn on the computer, Step 2) At the main screen press return, Step 3) On the Host Lists/Drive Slots page select my SD card, Step 4) Select Total Replay image and press return to mount it, Step 5) Here where I can only select (E)ject, (R)ead or (W)rite. Pressing anything but one of those three keys does nothing. Pressing E ejects the image, of course. Pressing either R or W it freezes. The other interesting thing now is after the main page it no longer gives me the option to choose a router to connect to the internet, it goes right to the Host lists/Drive slots page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 It's very interesting that you're winding up on the drive slot selection AFTER mounting an image. When you get back to the hosts page, it should be selecting a host slot again. Try tapping TAB to get back to the top (hosts), and then press ESC to boot. Once you've selected an SSID, it is stored in the fnconfig.ini file on the SD card (and the flash storage on the device too), and you do not have to select it again. -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnusfalkirk Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Okay let me clarify, after selecting the image to mount it goes back to the Host List/Drive Slots page. I guess I mistakenly thought you needed to go down to the Drive Slots and highlight the image you wanted to run. So I just went back to the GS, which was frozen, turned it off, waited a while, turned it on again and started over. After selecting the Total Replay image and mounting it it went back to the Host List/Drive Slots page. Instead of tabbing down to the Drive Slots I just used the arrow keys to go down to the SD card. Pressed ESC and the computer froze again. If you don't need to highlight the image you want to run why are the Drive Slots even selectable via the TAB key after you have mounted an image? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 So that you can eject a slot, or change its read/write mode after the fact. As I have explained before, the drive slots are literally analogous to smartport drives. The way the Apple ][ SmartPort protocol works, it will enumerate the devices, giving the lowest numbered one boot priority, so slot 1 is what gets booted. This is not my choice, it's Apple's. -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnusfalkirk Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Okay, that's fine. I still don't understand why the computer freezes after I have mounted the image in slot 1 and press ESC up in the Host List part of the page. Also It would have been nice to get some sort of written instructions on how to use the FujiApple instead of Masteries having to include a little bit of info in his email about it being on the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 We are working on Apple ][ documentation here, anyone can contribute: https://github.com/FujiNetWIFI/fujinet-platformio/wiki/AppleII-FujiNet-Quickstart-Guide Just to verify, you're able to boot into TR now? -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnusfalkirk Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 No I'm not. After I mount the image and it returns to the Host List/Drive Slots page I pressed ESC, in the Host List part of the page, and the computer froze again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnusfalkirk Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Could part of my problem be that I have the AppleSqueezer accelerator installed in my ROM 01 GS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 possibly? when it freezes, is the FujiNet busy light on? -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnusfalkirk Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Which tiny little led is the busy light? I have a tiny red led and a tiny blue led. I had to stand behind the computer and press keys on the keyboard to see the lights. Also my FujiApple board says Rev A on it. Anyway when I pressed the ESC key the tiny blue led flashed twice and the tiny red one, that had been on, turned off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, magnusfalkirk said: Which tiny little led is the busy light? I have a tiny red led and a tiny blue led. I had to stand behind the computer and press keys on the keyboard to see the lights. Also my FujiApple board says Rev A on it. Anyway when I pressed the ESC key the tiny blue led flashed twice and the tiny red one, that had been on, turned off. @masteries which one did you map to busy? @magnusfalkirk Try removing the accellerator and see if the problem persists? If so, we need to make a work-around in the code. -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnusfalkirk Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 It's going to take a little while to remove the AppleSqueezer, since it plugs int the CPU socket. I'll let you know how things go in a while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnusfalkirk Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Replaced the AppleSqueezer with the original CPU. Tried the FujiApple again and it still froze after I pressed the ESC key ont Host List part of the Host List/Drive Slots page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, magnusfalkirk said: Replaced the AppleSqueezer with the original CPU. Tried the FujiApple again and it still froze after I pressed the ESC key ont Host List part of the Host List/Drive Slots page. if you press CTRL-OA-RESET at this point, does it boot TR? -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnusfalkirk Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Nope, it just reboots the computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 The one missing piece of this puzzle, is debugging info from the flasher, when ESC is pressed. Seeing as the FujiNet reacts, it is being talked to, and it should emit debugging information, showing that it is mounting the image. -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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