+thanatos Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Wow, now Micro Center has them down to $129.99. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Guessing that means clearance... it may not be available much longer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Great that this monitor syncs down to 15khz, but is a native non-buffered output always going to exhibit the vertical stripes on an Amiga, ST, etc. though? While a buffered output eliminates the stripes? Didn't catch a definitive answer to that yet... probably not real noticeable when gaming anyway, or... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNameOfTheGame Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 20 minutes ago, Tillek said: Guessing that means clearance... it may not be available much longer. Yeah, you may be right. Or perhaps a sale since it is getting around the holidays. In any case, I need to pick up 1 or 2 more while they are so cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajacocks Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 I know the ST/TT doesn't need 24 KHz, but has anyone tried this Dell LCD with EGA or similar? It might be great with my x68000, if so. - Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 On 11/17/2022 at 5:11 PM, save2600 said: Great that this monitor syncs down to 15khz, but is a native non-buffered output always going to exhibit the vertical stripes on an Amiga, ST, etc. though? While a buffered output eliminates the stripes? Didn't catch a definitive answer to that yet... probably not real noticeable when gaming anyway, or... ? Buffering seems to do the trick for the Amiga, I'm hoping it does for the ST as well. And that someone makes a cable/interface/board that accommodates this, but I'm not seeing much so far... On my selection of STs here the vertical stripe noise on LCD ranges from 'still visible but I can live with it' to 'yeah this is really unusable' on my 520STm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DarkLord Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Here, on my Mega STe, it's really most noticeable on a fully dark (black background) screen. Then I can barely see the vertical stripes. I have noticed a couple of times software from the demo scene will show it a bit more. Other than that, I don't even notice it at all. Which is a good thing. Still not as sharp as my JVC brand SC1224 but man, I do really like the real estate! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chri O. Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Quote really like the real estate! 😁 me 2. Just so you know this noise changes with CPU frequency. I've got the ICD AdSpeed ST/e (8 - 16MHzi) installed with the on the fly frequency switch on my 1040ST/e puter. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DarkLord Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Huh,, well that's interesting. Next time I've got my Mega STe fired up (won't be long), I'll have to drop it from 16 to 8mhz and see what it does. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chri O. Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Interesting I am actually curious about the results 😀. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DarkLord Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Sorry for taking so long to get back. I did actually try this the next day. So...on my setup (Mega STe), the vertical lines are normally most noticeable when the screensaver is on and the background is black. I used the GENERAL.CPX to switch speeds back and forth between 8 and 16mhz cache and no cache, then waited the 5 minutes for the screensaver to kick in. I also watched for any differences from the desktop as well. From the perspective of these tired 'ole eyes, I could not tell any difference. If there was a difference, it was so slight that I could not discern it. Maybe someone younger, with better eyesight could? Maybe someone else with this same setup can try it and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNameOfTheGame Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 On 11/19/2022 at 10:20 AM, remowilliams said: Buffering seems to do the trick for the Amiga, I'm hoping it does for the ST as well. And that someone makes a cable/interface/board that accommodates this, but I'm not seeing much so far... On my selection of STs here the vertical stripe noise on LCD ranges from 'still visible but I can live with it' to 'yeah this is really unusable' on my 520STm. I think part of the problem is that there is no 5V on the ST video port. The Amiga adapter uses its 5V on the video port to power the buffer chips in the adapter so any Atari solution would require a power source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atariry Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Hello, I'm late to this thread... I just googled for this monitor in the UK. Firstly I note that a model SE2722HX appears (note the 'X'). Has anyone tested this version? Scan dot co dot uk who is my usual goto supplier, has the monitor listed at £220. Visiting the Dell UK website, the price is £115. There are various other sites with prices between the above two. The Dell price is very tempting, I must say 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesWD Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 18 hours ago, atariry said: Hello, I'm late to this thread... I just googled for this monitor in the UK. Firstly I note that a model SE2722HX appears (note the 'X'). Has anyone tested this version? Scan dot co dot uk who is my usual goto supplier, has the monitor listed at £220. Visiting the Dell UK website, the price is £115. There are various other sites with prices between the above two. The Dell price is very tempting, I must say 😁 This is the one from Dell UK : https://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/dell-27-monitor-se2722h/apd/210-azks/monitors-monitor-accessories this one I have and works in ALL ST resolutions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfcatari Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Has anyone tested the 24" version of this Dell monitor with the ST? https://www.microcenter.com/product/638579/dell-se2422h-238-quot-full-hd-(1920-x-1080)-75hz-led-monitor?rf=PDP_altSell+>+Cross_Sell+>+Cross+Sell+LED+LCD+Monitors+Broad The specs on the 24" appear to be the same as the 27" 27" which is known to work: https://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/dell-27-monitor-se2722h/apd/210-azks/monitors-monitor-accessories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNameOfTheGame Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Yep, earlier in the thread I wrote about how I bought one to try and it didn't work unfortunately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfcatari Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 22 minutes ago, TheNameOfTheGame said: Yep, earlier in the thread I wrote about how I bought one to try and it didn't work unfortunately. Thanks for the information. It is odd that the 27" works but the 24" does not. I think 27" is a little on the big side for 1920 x 1080, that is why I was looking at the 24" Edited January 27 by Jfcatari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNameOfTheGame Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Right, I felt the same way so that's the reason I bought one to try out. It even uses a different control board for the display panel so it can't be swapped with one of the 27"ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nurmix Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I just ordered two of the 27" model from my local (1+ hour away) Micro Center. They were $159.99 each. I'll pick them up in-store today or tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 5 hours ago, nurmix said: I just ordered two of the 27" model from my local (1+ hour away) Micro Center. They were $159.99 each. I'll pick them up in-store today or tomorrow. Really irritates me that microcenter doesn't ship some things, and that there aren't any in Utah... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DarkLord Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Okay, just for the fun of it, literally on a whim, I hooked my Dell 27" to the color output of my STacy. Now, I've had it hooked up to my Mega STe where it's performed admirably. I've been well pleased with it. However, on the STacy, it's less than stellar. I've hooked the STacy's color output to my JVC brand SC1224 and it's beautiful there. Here's a couple of pictures (and it looks a lot worse "live"). Before I go changing everything that works fine with the Mega STe, has anyone seen the blurriness and out-of-focus look before and what did they do about it? Thanks all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 hour ago, DarkLord said: Okay, just for the fun of it, literally on a whim, I hooked my Dell 27" to the color output of my STacy. Now, I've had it hooked up to my Mega STe where it's performed admirably. I've been well pleased with it. However, on the STacy, it's less than stellar. I've hooked the STacy's color output to my JVC brand SC1224 and it's beautiful there. Here's a couple of pictures (and it looks a lot worse "live"). Before I go changing everything that works fine with the Mega STe, has anyone seen the blurriness and out-of-focus look before and what did they do about it? Thanks all. Clearly your STacy is faulty, you should give it to me. 😜 Do they typically have poor output via the vga adapters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightbit Posted February 11 Author Share Posted February 11 Did you try making any adjustments on the monitor in regard to the sharpness, phase and pixel clock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DarkLord Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 16 minutes ago, leech said: Clearly your STacy is faulty, you should give it to me. 😜 Right... Keep dreamin' buddy. 16 minutes ago, leech said: Do they typically have poor output via the vga adapters? Well, honestly I'd never tried them with the STacy before. This is the Exxos one, BTW. I'd only ever used my STacy with the SC1224 and with the JVC brand, the picture is just downright gorgeous. Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DarkLord Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 9 minutes ago, eightbit said: Did you try making any adjustments on the monitor in regard to the sharpness, phase and pixel clock? I did not. I've got it working great with my Mega STe and I just wanted to touch base here and see if anyone else had experienced this first. It's probably just a matter of fine tuning and tweaking. Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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