tuf Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 On 1/16/2022 at 8:01 PM, calimero said: Hi, what is the exact model of that NEC CRT monitor? Thanks! It's not a 15k compatible monitor - I'm using an Indivision Mk2 in the A500. If you're still interested I'll look at the front of it for you when I get home. It does work well with the Amiga 15k (non-interlaced) modes using the Amiga's RGB to OSSC/Retrotink too. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/329388-a-new-27-inch-monitor-that-is-available-and-works-100/page/5/#findComment-4989547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuf Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 On 1/8/2022 at 9:56 PM, eightbit said: I sent him a message and asked. Those lines are precisely what I get on the ST so I bet whatever fix he has in place with this adapter would solve the problem for this. Curious if you heard back. Buffered adapters aren't that common for STs, I don't think.. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/329388-a-new-27-inch-monitor-that-is-available-and-works-100/page/5/#findComment-4989558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightbit Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 Just now, tuf said: Curious if you heard back. Buffered adapters aren't that common for STs, I don't think.. Silence unfortunately. I am sure an adapter of this type would solve that problem. Maybe if more people send him messages it may sway him into producing one. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/329388-a-new-27-inch-monitor-that-is-available-and-works-100/page/5/#findComment-4989561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calimero Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 4 hours ago, tuf said: It's not a 15k compatible monitor - I'm using an Indivision Mk2 in the A500. If you're still interested I'll look at the front of it for you when I get home. It does work well with the Amiga 15k (non-interlaced) modes using the Amiga's RGB to OSSC/Retrotink too. No. If it was 15Khz monitor, then I would be interested. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/329388-a-new-27-inch-monitor-that-is-available-and-works-100/page/5/#findComment-4989714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 5 hours ago, Ripdubski said: anyone else get one and have the same positive experience? I bought one, but haven't had a chance to play with it yet. Got a few things going on Saturday morning, so once that's out of the way, I'll be setting it up and giving it a try. Now the one I got off Amazon is the SE2722HX, but everything I've read says the X just means the VGA cable is included in the box (and I at least confirmed it does have the VGA cable). So.... we shall see. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/329388-a-new-27-inch-monitor-that-is-available-and-works-100/page/5/#findComment-4989768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Works well for me. It's good to be off the tiny CRT. Absolutely worth it. Thank you 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/329388-a-new-27-inch-monitor-that-is-available-and-works-100/page/5/#findComment-4990299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightbit Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 I want to add that I have tested this monitor with a MiST FPGA today with the scandoubler turned off....so pure 15kHz signal using the Atari ST and Amiga cores. Of course it works fine, just like how it is working on real hardware as reported previously. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/329388-a-new-27-inch-monitor-that-is-available-and-works-100/page/5/#findComment-4990665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickster Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 On 1/22/2022 at 1:35 PM, Bee said: Works well for me. It's good to be off the tiny CRT. Absolutely worth it. Thank you off topic, but any chance you know of anyone who wants to sell a supercharger. I would love to buy one. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/329388-a-new-27-inch-monitor-that-is-available-and-works-100/page/5/#findComment-4991219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNameOfTheGame Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 On 1/14/2022 at 4:24 PM, Ripdubski said: I received the Dell SE2422H today. It doesn't work in color, only in mono, and the image is shifted and stretched up off the right top corner. Boo... FWIW, the monitor also does not have a height adjustment. Just throwing that out there. The image in mono isn't as good as with my older 4:3 Dell 2001FP. Yeah, got my SE2422H also and can confirm. Not working in color and mono is shifted. The aspect ration can be changed to 4:3 and that centers the mono image, but the desktop letters are unreadable on mine so I'll use this one for BeePi and Hades. Gonna try the SE2722H next. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/329388-a-new-27-inch-monitor-that-is-available-and-works-100/page/5/#findComment-4991824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chri O. Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Dell SE2722H in monochrome mode on Atari ST/e. BAD APPLE DEMO in monochrome. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/329388-a-new-27-inch-monitor-that-is-available-and-works-100/page/5/#findComment-4991941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParanoidLittleMan Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Medium res. Desktop on Philips 24 inch TV, connected to Scart RGB . AR is set to 4:3 . Of course not perfect, but better than on CRT monitor/TV . Here to add that size of display is not really relevant. Resolution is more relevant, and all this lower price monitors, TVs have full HD res (1920x1080 px) . Since analog signal is not synced with pixels on LCD display there will be some smaller errors in any case. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/329388-a-new-27-inch-monitor-that-is-available-and-works-100/page/5/#findComment-4992337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuf Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 hours ago, ParanoidLittleMan said: Medium res. Desktop on Philips 24 inch TV, connected to Scart RGB . AR is set to 4:3 . Of course not perfect, but better than on CRT monitor/TV . Here to add that size of display is not really relevant. Resolution is more relevant, and all this lower price monitors, TVs have full HD res (1920x1080 px) . Since analog signal is not synced with pixels on LCD display there will be some smaller errors in any case. If only we had RGB/SCART in the states 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/329388-a-new-27-inch-monitor-that-is-available-and-works-100/page/5/#findComment-4992408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParanoidLittleMan Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I made Atari ST(E) to VGA cable - using R,G,B lines directly, H and V sync lines too. On same 24 inch Philips TV: Not good, some vertical lines are not visible, or pale. And contrast is too high, what is better visible when start some game, for instance. Yes, it is known that is good to add serial resistors in such case. Which are added to Scart cable too (3x100 Ohm). So, I added 3x 100 Ohm resistors in serial to R,G,B lines. Indeed much better. So, overdrive may causing not only too high contrast, but errors in A/D conversion too. This reminds me that I added 18 Ohm serial resistor to monochrome cable to VGA too, and it helped, so recommended. Only 18 Ohms because ST monochrome signal goes parallel to R & G & B inputs of monitor. And that's the only flaw of this Philips monitor - monochrome works not with (supports not >60 Hz ) . But on usual LCD computer monitors works for sure. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/329388-a-new-27-inch-monitor-that-is-available-and-works-100/page/5/#findComment-4992756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNameOfTheGame Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/8/2022 at 9:56 PM, eightbit said: I sent him a message and asked. Those lines are precisely what I get on the ST so I bet whatever fix he has in place with this adapter would solve the problem for this. Did you ever hear back from him? Also, received the SE2722H today and it works perfectly with my STE in all modes. I set the aspect ratio to 4:3 and adjusted the horizontal position to center it, set the sharpness all the way up and changed the color mode to "movie" and it looks great. Ordering another to use with the Falcon. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/329388-a-new-27-inch-monitor-that-is-available-and-works-100/page/5/#findComment-4996105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightbit Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, TheNameOfTheGame said: Did you ever hear back from him? Also, received the SE2722H today and it works perfectly with my STE in all modes. I set the aspect ratio to 4:3 and adjusted the horizontal position to center it, set the sharpness all the way up and changed the color mode to "movie" and it looks great. Ordering another to use with the Falcon. Nope, never received a response from him. Glad the monitor worked out for you though! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/329388-a-new-27-inch-monitor-that-is-available-and-works-100/page/5/#findComment-4996113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chri O. Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, TheNameOfTheGame said: Also, received the SE2722H today and it works perfectly with my STE in all modes. I set the aspect ratio to 4:3 and adjusted the horizontal position to center it, set the sharpness all the way up and changed the color mode to "movie" and it looks great. I am running monochrome in 16:9, I didn't play with the color setiings. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/329388-a-new-27-inch-monitor-that-is-available-and-works-100/page/5/#findComment-4996174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNameOfTheGame Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Yes, it works in both 16:9 and 4:3 modes. The changes I made were just personal preferences, not requirements for operation. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/329388-a-new-27-inch-monitor-that-is-available-and-works-100/page/5/#findComment-4996184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chri O. Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 @TheNameOfTheGame I see ?. @ParanoidLittleMan Well you got me thinking with those resistors and I look up the schematics (in my case Atari ST/e) there is few resistors on motherboard for red green and blue, looks like we could just replace them with higher value 120ohms Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/329388-a-new-27-inch-monitor-that-is-available-and-works-100/page/5/#findComment-4996198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calimero Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 1/9/2022 at 9:57 PM, Chri O. said: Atari Falcon 030 HMMM Demo & RGB Dell SE2722H TEST.......... ? Can you test Dell with e.g. Joint Venture or Lost Blub? This demos will output some stranger resolutions... so it is a good test to see how monitor handle non standard resolutions that quite some Falcon specific software use please read description of video. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/329388-a-new-27-inch-monitor-that-is-available-and-works-100/page/5/#findComment-4996295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParanoidLittleMan Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 16 hours ago, Chri O. said: @ParanoidLittleMan Well you got me thinking with those resistors and I look up the schematics (in my case Atari ST/e) there is few resistors on motherboard for red green and blue, looks like we could just replace them with higher value 120ohms Resistors on RGB lines have different values at different models - Mega ST: 27 Ohms, Mega STE: 75 Ohms ... And it is easier to place extra resistors in Scart or VGA connector. 1/8 Watt ones take very little place. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/329388-a-new-27-inch-monitor-that-is-available-and-works-100/page/5/#findComment-4996356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 1/7/2022 at 12:58 AM, ParanoidLittleMan said: Nice. So, AMD free sync technology is multi sync. In some way better buy than those not cheap converters to HDMI, VGA .. Little more money, but you have monitor too. Ha, so I have this giant (77" is considered giant, isn't it?) TV that supports FreeSync and G-Sync. I should test out the ST on it, but then again I have to use some sort of adapter anyhow, as analog was not included with this model at all! Apparently LG's last model from 2020 did have a little 3.5mm jack where you could get an adapter for it. My C1 apparently only has a 'debug' port that is 3.5mm... so is a full HDMI TV. Kind of makes me sad... On the flip side, it does work with the Vampire 4 Stand Alone... so I can run EmuTOS on it Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/329388-a-new-27-inch-monitor-that-is-available-and-works-100/page/5/#findComment-4996748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+H454 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Heads up - Office Max / Office Depot Has this as the deal of the day for $169.99. It looked like free shipping when I added to my cart. Dell™ SE2722H 27" FHD LED Monitor, AMD FreeSync 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/329388-a-new-27-inch-monitor-that-is-available-and-works-100/page/5/#findComment-4996792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chri O. Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Interesting I just end up paying US $179.42 for Atari SLM804 and SLMC804 Laser Printer on eBay (only needed for reverse engineer) ? 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/329388-a-new-27-inch-monitor-that-is-available-and-works-100/page/5/#findComment-4996860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chri O. Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 @calimero. I will try but you need to give me at least two more days currently too busy. ? 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/329388-a-new-27-inch-monitor-that-is-available-and-works-100/page/5/#findComment-4996861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calimero Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Chri O. said: @calimero. I will try but you need to give me at least two more days currently too busy. ? No pressure I just saying that these two demos are good for testing monitor compatibility with Falcon. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/329388-a-new-27-inch-monitor-that-is-available-and-works-100/page/5/#findComment-4996913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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