Heaven/TQA Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 21 hours ago, Philsan said: That looks cool and sounds cool. Missed that one! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 On 2/11/2022 at 7:47 AM, Philsan said: [The Lady - Video] Philsan, how come you didn't go with something like this for the background instead? lady [NTSC].xex lady [PAL].xex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 it is a black and white spaghetti western... right on down to the music. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, _The Doctor__ said: it is a black and white spaghetti western... right on down to the music. Not that there's anything wrong with doing it in black and white; but spaghetti westerns were color films (with maybe a few exceptions); and the music played is the theme from "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly", which is a color film. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) Spaghetti Westerns started in 1913, they certainly did not start in color... also consider that "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly" built on that style and sound, Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo became one of the top rated of the genre.. Please don't tell us they were all color films as you are 'DEAD' wrong. There is a history to Italian film and Westerns, and it's quite and enjoyable journey. I'd say even wikipedia might get this correct, there were many sites dedicated to Spaghetti Westerns and we have a number of channels/streams dedicated to them today. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Spaghetti_Western_films Edited February 12, 2022 by _The Doctor__ heh, added wiki link 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 1 hour ago, _The Doctor__ said: Spaghetti Westerns started in 1913, they certainly did not start in color... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Spaghetti_Western_films As I said, with possibly a few exceptions. As you can see from that list, the vast majority (99%) are mid-sixties and onward, color films, which is the classic, defining era of the genre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) The Dollars Trilogy.... 1964,1965,1966 saying 'with a few exceptions'... when there are years of them in black and white including serial westerns on televisions would not be considered 'a few exceptions' for sure. though efforts to 'colorize' everything did occur. Also consider by the 70's the genre really suffered, declared over with a number of times. Edited February 12, 2022 by _The Doctor__ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 39 minutes ago, _The Doctor__ said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Spaghetti_Western_films Don't forget to read this page, if you want to quote Wiki: Spaghetti Western Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) I posted the link so what's to forget? unless you fear people can't read and click on their own? The hope being to get people started so they can read the whole of it and then since wiki is usually not all that reliable, like subs on a forum, they can actually get some ideas on doing a real search into the subject. I highly suggest it ! Euro Westerns aren't quite the same however... Death isn't normally a colorful thing, but I guess it could be... maybe day of the dead Spanish stuff? Time for death to shake off his dark robes and wear a rainbow! Edited February 12, 2022 by _The Doctor__ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Nice colors, I tested them too when I designed background. But my idea was to make a cinemascope black and white movie thanks to A8 strenghts (overscan, 16 shades of grey, tall sprites) without being a good coder. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, _The Doctor__ said: I posted the link so what's to forget? unless you fear people can't read and click on their own? The hope being to get people started so they can read the whole of it and then since wiki is usually not all that reliable, like subs on a forum, they can actually get some ideas on doing a real search into the subject. I highly suggest it ! Have some spaghetti and chill out Doc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 That's some colorful spaghetti!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Philsan said: Nice colors, I tested them too when I designed background. Admittedly, they don't look quite as dialed-in on PAL compared with NTSC. With PAL, it's either more brown or more red than the NTSC color, which hits the New Mexico landscape colors pretty good. 3 minutes ago, Philsan said: But my idea was to make a cinemascope black and white movie thanks to A8 strenghts (overscan, 16 shades of grey, tall sprites) without being a good coder. OK... artistic decision... I noticed you used widescreen mode, and 170 scanline height. Nice production, either way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Thanks. Unfortunately nowadays youtubers wrong video settings do not let people appreciate A8 games with overscan. But The Lady's video is ok, if seen on youtube (not embedded and not fullscreen). Players enter the screen from the sides. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Philsan said: Unfortunately nowadays youtubers wrong video settings do not let people appreciate A8 games with overscan. I didn't realise that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, _The Doctor__ said: [Shatner, Nemoy Youtube video] I'm pretty sure Shatner prefers tacos (although I'm not sure exactly why). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Quick conversion and comparison between Mode 9 & E for some images. Mode 9 actually does quite favorably, considering the amount of detail needed. goodbadugly 160 bw.xex goodbadugly 160 color (ntsc).xex goodbadugly 160 color (pal).xex goodbadugly gtia bw.xex goodbadugly gtia color (ntsc).xex goodbadugly gtia color (pal).xex 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irgendwer Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 20 hours ago, MrFish said: Quick conversion Another quick one: gbau.xex 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 45 minutes ago, Irgendwer said: Another quick one: gbau.xex 9.18 kB · 4 downloads Nice... those interleaved modes (looks like 9 in gray, with 9 in another color, half-pixel shifted) work out good for complex images. What utility are you using for your conversions? I was messing around with some different colors; I like this combo. Unfortunately, these exact colors aren't possible on PAL. So, I'm just showing NTSC here. I also found an image better suited to using the whole screen. I'd like to see the mode you're using in full screen usage too. Should be possible, right? gbu alt.xex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 The flicker modes are really good for these types of images too (HIP, TIP, or whatever they call this mode...). Imagine.xex 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irgendwer Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 hour ago, MrFish said: What utility are you using for your conversions? Unfortunately browser compatibility got worse and even Firefox rejects now full operation. I have a long list of improvements for it, but time to touch it again is out of sight (also while other projects are more important/requested). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Irgendwer said: Unfortunately browser compatibility got worse and even Firefox rejects now full operation. I have a long list of improvements for it, but time to touch it again is out of sight (also while other projects are more important/requested). Yeah, I thought that might have been in the mode that you devised -- which of course I'd seen before. It has a little bit of a scanlined-look, but no flicker (not really an issue for NTSC machines), and the results are good overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 That mode would be HIP I think (fairly sure it was the first of the interleaved GTIA software modes) Whatever happened of that mode from a few years ago? I think it used PMs to mask pixels making them smaller to give perceived higher res? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGB1718 Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 Been playing with an old mode 9/11 drawing program I wrote in 1985, just for fun I loaded a picture from the BASIC XE extensions disk, just to see what it looked like even though it's produced for a different graphics mode. I think it's obvious who this is without any changes, was surprised it looked this good . mode 9-11.mp4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Murkwood by @ilmenit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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