project7800 Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 So, back in the day, the first C compiler that I ever used for the ST was Haba Hippo-C. It's not perfect, and I am well aware of much better C compilers available nowadays, but I still like it. It's an easy to use compiler, assembler, linker and even a UNIX style operating system called HOS. Anyway, I was able to get a physical copy from eBay. But I noticed that there doesn't seem to be a disk image of it available online. I would like to share this software with everyone in the community. However, I have absolutely no idea how to do this. Weeks of searching the Internet has left me thoroughly confused! LOL. Can someone please give me a simple step-by-step guide to the best way to dump an ST image? I have the disk, a stock 1040 ST with TOS 1.0. My modern machine is a Mac, but I can get access to a Windows computer if necessary. Or, if anybody has this and is willing to dump and share it, could you do so here? Thanks as always! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/334231-need-help-to-dump-a-disk-image/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
351coug Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 well try using msa 1st if the disk isnt protected . you can use progem or proreb if it is . if the protection is too much for them to make an image, youll probably need a hardware copier. How did you plan on getting the image off the ST over to a mac or win box? unless you have a floppy on them , and that would make them old machines indeed. MSA141.PRG UTILITY.7z 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/334231-need-help-to-dump-a-disk-image/#findComment-5042659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParanoidLittleMan Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 On this page can DL floppy imaging SW for Windows and Atari ST: http://atari.8bitchip.info/floimgd.php Windows program works only with internal floppy drive, so with older PCs only. USB floppy drives are not supported, because they can handle usual Atari ST floppy formats (like 400 or 800 KB). At about 90% of page is TRACC, program for Atari . If it is copy protected, then you need to use Pasti . And without hard disk (or Flash card adapter) making image will be harder Actually, you need 1 MB version of it: TRACC1M.ZIP And will need to do imaging in 2 steps if it is 2 sided disk - because with 1 MB machine can image max about 700 KB only in one step. And you need to save image file to floppy, where fits not like 800 KB ... 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/334231-need-help-to-dump-a-disk-image/#findComment-5042668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
project7800 Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 Great! Thanks, gentlemen. I'll give this a go. Much appreciated! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/334231-need-help-to-dump-a-disk-image/#findComment-5042878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
project7800 Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 8 hours ago, 351coug said: well try using msa 1st if the disk isnt protected . you can use progem or proreb if it is . if the protection is too much for them to make an image, youll probably need a hardware copier. How did you plan on getting the image off the ST over to a mac or win box? unless you have a floppy on them , and that would make them old machines indeed. MSA141.PRG 13.87 kB · 2 downloads UTILITY.7z 69.73 kB · 1 download Well, at first I didn't know the process. Having read what PP has to say, I suppose I need to track down an old windows machine and follow his advice. I have a few other disks that I noticed aren't available. I might try and old laptop off of eBay. First time around doing this so it will be a learning experience for me. Thanks, again! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/334231-need-help-to-dump-a-disk-image/#findComment-5042881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
project7800 Posted May 28, 2022 Author Share Posted May 28, 2022 @ParanoidLittleManI was wondering if I could get some more help, please. So, I used Pasti and made a disk image . I saved it to my hard drive emulator, an SD4ST, which is like an UltraSatan. I saved it as an .STX file, which is a data file, not a PRG file. Now, the problem is I don't know how to open it up as it says it is I am only able to PRINT or SHOW it. Can you help me out with the next step, please? Thank you very much. I should also thank you because I used your Drive Image software, which worked very well. http://atari.8bitchip.info/drimus.php Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/334231-need-help-to-dump-a-disk-image/#findComment-5064706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParanoidLittleMan Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 You can not use STX image files with Atari. Only with emulators - Steem with help of pasti.dll, newer versions of Hatari .. Here to add that no need to make STX images of not copy protected floppies. ST or MSA format will be perfectly good for them. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/334231-need-help-to-dump-a-disk-image/#findComment-5064771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
project7800 Posted May 28, 2022 Author Share Posted May 28, 2022 I did it! Thanks to @ParanoidLittleMan and @351coug. The only issue is that it only seems to work with TOS 1.0. I guess that makes sense since it came out very early in the life of the ST. HIPPOC.STX Haba Hippo-C manual.pdf Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/334231-need-help-to-dump-a-disk-image/#findComment-5065030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodak80 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Thank you for getting the STX for this. The software is checking for the original disk and STX works fine. I have run the manual you uploaded through ScanTailor to rotate, and split into individual pages then re-combined them back into a PDF with text recognition. Haba Hippo-C manual (new).pdf 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/334231-need-help-to-dump-a-disk-image/#findComment-5065219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
project7800 Posted May 29, 2022 Author Share Posted May 29, 2022 @kodak80Thanks so much for improving the manual! It is much better, now. I truly appreciate it! Just in case anyone is interested, here are a few links related to this piece of software. As far as I am aware, there is not much else out there. This first is a review from Antic magazine. https://www.atarimagazines.com/v4n10/sthabahippoc.html The second, is a follow up article from Antic that provides XBIOS calls for a Random number and access to the sound chip. These were both missing in the original version of the software. https://www.atarimagazines.com/v4n11/Hipposound.html The next step is for me to submit this image to Atarimania and AtariUpToDate. Hopefully I can figure out how to do that soon and they can be more accessible. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/334231-need-help-to-dump-a-disk-image/#findComment-5065278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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