Rowsdower70 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 4 hours ago, roots.genoa said: Have Amico games become the fruitcake of video games? 😔 They strive to become that, because at the end of the day....while nobody WANTS to eat fruitcake, they could if they wanted to. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 7 hours ago, roots.genoa said: Have Amico games become the fruitcake of video games? 😔 People pretending that its good? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots.genoa Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 5 hours ago, Rev said: People pretending that its good? No, people giving them to other people to get rid of them. Except they're selling them on eBay rather than offering them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy the Atarian Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 On 1/17/2023 at 7:26 PM, Rev said: Seeing how the games are still not completed, we can see that covid excuse for games not complete was not entirely factual. Cloudy Mountain was a launch game. 2 years later and not done. I do have to feel bad for some of the SLC staff (not sure if any of them were devs or just QA) - some of them came from another tech gaming flop called The Void. Guess they just couldn't catch a break when it came to gaming start-ups. I was surprised when I played Moon Patrol and it had "filler text" from Starfox in there. It should not have been hard to already have come up with a paragraph for a story and wedge that in there prior to going public but I guess they figured no one would notice. The game was playable at least but lots did not add up in general when it came to what they did show vs. how long it had supposedly been in development for. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPilz Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) On 1/17/2023 at 8:26 PM, Rev said: Cloudy Mountain was a launch game. 2 years later and not done. I miss the Amico board as there were a lot of interesting conversations well beyond the main Q&A thread, and a lot of missed conversations about a lot of these titles. But within that Q&A thread the release for Cloudy Mountain went from expected launch title, to "will know for sure by February 2021 and "worst case scenario they would be a month or so after launch, so it's not like they will be delayed for a long time." He stated this in November 2020 after committing to the April 2021 launch date. And in May 2021 he said Night Stalker and Cloudy Mountain would definitely be released on physical media as well. I would had sacrificed Brain Duel and Biplanes for those if that had happened. Edited January 22, 2023 by MattPilz 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBeefy Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 16 hours ago, Shaggy the Atarian said: I do have to feel bad for some of the SLC staff (not sure if any of them were devs or just QA) - some of them came from another tech gaming flop called The Void. Guess they just couldn't catch a break when it came to gaming start-ups. I was surprised when I played Moon Patrol and it had "filler text" from Starfox in there. It should not have been hard to already have come up with a paragraph for a story and wedge that in there prior to going public but I guess they figured no one would notice. The game was playable at least but lots did not add up in general when it came to what they did show vs. how long it had supposedly been in development for. I think they had the same philosophy with Battle Tanks. They thought no one would notice the stolen art that they tried to hide. I think that's why they killed the Deep Dives. They realized people were going to call out their shady actions. Cornhole was shown with some artwork from PngWing just like Tanks. 6 hours ago, MattPilz said: I miss the Amico board as there were a lot of interesting conversations well beyond the main Q&A thread, and a lot of missed conversations about a lot of these titles. But within that Q&A thread the release for Cloudy Mountain went from expected launch title, to "will know for sure by February 2021 and "worst case scenario they would be a month or so after launch, so it's not like they will be delayed for a long time." He stated this in November 2020 after committing to the April 2021 launch date. And in May 2021 he said Night Stalker and Cloudy Mountain would definitely be released on physical media as well. I would had sacrificed Brain Duel and Biplanes for those if that had happened. Are you suggesting that Tommy struggled with his company hitting dates? Surely not. It was funny when CNET seemed perturbed they couldn't even make their own special event date. 600 years experience!!!!! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Cnet were gaming racist haters and gatekeepers the whole time! 😡 https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/intellivision-amico-vs-atari-vcs-comparing-two-baffling-retro-consoles/ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Even after the Oof being removed, Roblox has amazing numbers. 56 million in a month. The doomed Amico? Im shocked they say that, we are on the launchpad. https://techraptor.net/gaming/news/roblox-had-over-56-million-daily-players-last-month 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy the Atarian Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Hmm, what mysterious reason could that possibly be? Oh, right 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 On 1/21/2023 at 3:58 PM, roots.genoa said: No, people giving them to other people to get rid of them. Except they're selling them on eBay rather than offering them. That was one of Johnny Carson's gags, that there was only one fruitcake that keeps getting passed around because nobody wants it. I suppose that's like those 2 youtube guys with their 'trial' units. Speaking of old jokes, do you see any similarities between this 1989 sketch and Tallarico's goofy video? It's exactly the same joke, lab coats and all, just less funny when Ferrari Boomer does it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayik Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Posted on reddit r/Intellivision-Amico 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheColecoDude Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 This defense of Tommy's lies is just pathetic. "He can lie if he wants!!!" 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Here is a reaction from a pretty popular guy with a large following. Watching the Amico E3 video. https://youtu.be/tFqFUi8j2ns 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+H454 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 "What an interestingly awful idea!" - Moist Critikal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarifan88 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 21 hours ago, Rev said: Even after the Oof being removed, Roblox has amazing numbers. 56 million in a month. The doomed Amico? Im shocked they say that, we are on the launchpad. https://techraptor.net/gaming/news/roblox-had-over-56-million-daily-players-last-month It's funny that TT got into a dispute for someone using his sound effect when he in turn stole other people's artwork for his games! 😲 Mind boggling! 🤣 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayler Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 One should probably use the most biggest air quotes ever to be gestured when talking about "his sound effect". Get the Guinness people on it too so Tommy can have a shiny new plaque. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBeefy Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 15 hours ago, SteveTheColecoDude said: This defense of Tommy's lies is just pathetic. "He can lie if he wants!!!" And everyone can call him out on it. Which ironically they don't approve of. 🤣 3 hours ago, atarifan88 said: It's funny that TT got into a dispute for someone using his sound effect when he in turn stole other people's artwork for his games! 😲 Mind boggling! 🤣 Tommy perpetually plays the victim when he is the aggressor or perpetrator. He's kind of a coward who can't take accountability for his mess ups. He didn't even admit that he was pushed out as opposed to "stepped down". 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPilz Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 22 hours ago, Rev said: Here is a reaction from a pretty popular guy with a large following. Watching the Amico E3 video. I hadn't watched the E3 for a long time. Quote "I can take my controller, I can go over to your house, dock it in your system and because it recognizes that it's my controller we can now play all of my games that I own on your system at your house. As long as my controller is there, my games are there as well." Not entirely accurate if you read their late-2021 updated FAQs: Quote "Simply dock your controller on your friend’s Amico to establish communication. Your games can now be downloaded and played for up to 24 hours while your controller is connected. After the sharing time expires, your controller must reconnect with your home Amico to re-enable its ability to share your games." So if you're going to spend a weekend at a friend's place you'll want to take your entire Amico along, to reactivate the sharing every 24 hours. That idea feels like another afterthought of adding in some unnecessarily complicated form of software protection. Just like deciding physical media owners would have to physically scan their RFID card every time they wanted to play any of the games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_B Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 33 minutes ago, MattPilz said: That idea feels like another afterthought of adding in some unnecessarily complicated form of software protection. Just like deciding physical media owners would have to physically scan their RFID card every time they wanted to play any of the games. ... and certain people wonder where we get the impression from that they were always winging it and nothing was ever properly finished? 😀 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots.genoa Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 The way I understood it at first was simpler and more elegant imho: Games are linked to the controllers, so if you bring one of them to a friend, you can play your games on their Amico indefinitely, as long as you keep using your controller. It's exactly like lending a game, but you lend the controller instead. To prevent people from illegally copying games this way (you could give your controller to someone else and buy a new one to bind it to your games again), as soon as the games are played on another Amico (whether it's yours or not), they become unplayable on another Amico (including the original one) at the same time, like how it works on Steam and streaming services. Of course this requires an Internet connection, but: You need an Internet connection to download the games on the second Amico system anyway You can indeed keep the games forever on both consoles if you break the connection after you downloaded the games, but that means you won't be able to download a new game, ever. Of course I didn't think about it that much and there may be a caveat I missed. I'm no industry legend with over 600 years of experience after all. 😔 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBeefy Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 3 hours ago, roots.genoa said: The way I understood it at first was simpler and more elegant imho: Games are linked to the controllers, so if you bring one of them to a friend, you can play your games on their Amico indefinitely, as long as you keep using your controller. It's exactly like lending a game, but you lend the controller instead. To prevent people from illegally copying games this way (you could give your controller to someone else and buy a new one to bind it to your games again), as soon as the games are played on another Amico (whether it's yours or not), they become unplayable on another Amico (including the original one) at the same time, like how it works on Steam and streaming services. Of course this requires an Internet connection, but: You need an Internet connection to download the games on the second Amico system anyway You can indeed keep the games forever on both consoles if you break the connection after you downloaded the games, but that means you won't be able to download a new game, ever. Of course I didn't think about it that much and there may be a caveat I missed. I'm no industry legend with over 600 years of experience after all. 😔 Let us be real for a minute. Even if they launch a console, no one is going to have any friends nearby with a console. We may not get to see if they botched that feature or not. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots.genoa Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Obviously! Also my point about "you won't be able to download a new game, ever" would not be a problem is there are no new games to download. 😅 And even if the Amico had been released for the backers, they would probably have released a few more games after launch then stopped. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 10 hours ago, MattPilz said: I hadn't watched the E3 for a long time. Not entirely accurate if you read their late-2021 updated FAQs: So if you're going to spend a weekend at a friend's place you'll want to take your entire Amico along, to reactivate the sharing every 24 hours. That idea feels like another afterthought of adding in some unnecessarily complicated form of software protection. Just like deciding physical media owners would have to physically scan their RFID card every time they wanted to play any of the games. Internally they likely debated how to best protect against piracy. So things like this can change prior to release. It could have even changed after release based on user feedback. On 1/22/2023 at 9:32 PM, SteveTheColecoDude said: This defense of Tommy's lies is just pathetic. "He can lie if he wants!!!" Didn't hear anyone in the video clip say that. Plus, they were talking about a youtuber. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Razzie.P Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 hour ago, mr_me said: Internally they likely debated how to best protect against piracy. So things like this can change prior to release. It could have even changed after release based on user feedback. Yeah, likely. And I guess they settled on the best way to prevent piracy is to just take everyone's money, go on a shitload of vacations (which they flaunted well, as I understand it) and never release anything. Gotta admit, it seems to have worked. We're years past the original intended launch and they haven't been pirated yet. 1 hour ago, mr_me said: Didn't hear anyone in the video clip say that. Seems the quote was "he can say whatever he wants, man." And if we wanna get all literal about it, that's way worse, since that means not only can he "lie if he wants," but they're also giving him a free pass for racism, hate speech, slander, threats, etc. Whatever he wants, man... 1 hour ago, mr_me said: Plus, they were talking about a youtuber. Really? You could be right as I didn't watch (and have no intention of watching) the original, but in this one, they're talking about Tommy's record and the dude says "it was given to him, he can say whatever he wants." So they gave Tommy's records to a youtuber? That's just mean... 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Shills are a dime a dozen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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