twh/f2 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Hi *, In Sundog I'm having "glitches" when walking around in the city . The blocks are randomly changing and I see broken ships here and there. Walking around in the city simply doesn't make sense it seems to be broken. I'm having it using an STX image from Atarimania in emulation and also using PPs version on Real HW. I wonder what I'm doing wrong. Any advice? twh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParanoidLittleMan Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Some screenshot(s) would be useful . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twh/f2 Posted July 7, 2022 Author Share Posted July 7, 2022 I think what is supposed to be can be seen in this video i.e. 8:28 But what I see is a "single pixel" for character and when I walk around the city map is not "scrolling" (switching) accordingly. The results is a broken map / city view. also the ship appears multiple times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twh/f2 Posted July 7, 2022 Author Share Posted July 7, 2022 ok the pixel was "walk" vs. "car" mode. This was a misunderstanding. But still, either with "walk" or "car" the map does not behave correctly. Sorry for this confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Long ago, when I tried playing this (and winning) in the early 2k's with Hatari, I found that the newer TOS's did this. Try the emulator with the original TOS and see how it goes. I never really bothered trying all the tos versions to see which had problems, but I do remember having the same issue with my Mega STE but not my original 520. Also I should note, that when I did this, these were from the original disks, and an image made from my original disk... so this likely isn't anything to do with the conversion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParanoidLittleMan Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 It makes sense for game from 1985. Other one, with mouse control too is Tracker (Rainbird, 1987 - only TOS 1.00 with org. game) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twh/f2 Posted July 7, 2022 Author Share Posted July 7, 2022 yep. can confirm this to work now with TOS 1.02 in STEEM. So how can it be run on my real HW with TOS 2.06 then? Is it possible to load TOS1.02 to "downgrade" via SW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParanoidLittleMan Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 If works with 1.02 most likely works with 1.04 too. I did not see those errors, and I run/test games mostly with 1.04 in Steem 3.2 Debugger. Dealt with Sundog some 14 years ago TOS loader - with it can load 1.04 in RAM . Please test with it, or with 1.04 as regular TOS in Steem. If it is OK then I can make new adaptation with TOS 1.04 in RAM, what will run on all machines from ST to TT, will have state saves, simple exit to Desktop . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Actually, I could be wrong.. (It was long ago) but I think I tried 1.04 in the emulator and it didn't work..... But I had the same issue... that's why I played it in the emulator instead of my Mega STE with TOS 2.05 (at the time) and by that point my 520 was burried somewhere in storage (but it had worked, since Sundog was my first ST game). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParanoidLittleMan Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Actually I made Sundog HAGA v. already, years ago. Get it here: Sundog with TOS 1.04 in RAM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfollowell Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 8 hours ago, ParanoidLittleMan said: Actually I made Sundog HAGA v. already, years ago. Get it here: Sundog with TOS 1.04 in RAM Would this version work with an STE/MSTE? I'm assuming yes, but curious, since this is an earlier version of TOS than the STE/MSTE models ever shipped with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParanoidLittleMan Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Of course will work with STE and Mega STE. Little modded TOS runs in high-RAM, specific HW in them is initialized by built in TOS . YT videos of game adaptations were done in most cases with Mega STE . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twh/f2 Posted July 17, 2022 Author Share Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/8/2022 at 8:18 AM, ParanoidLittleMan said: Actually I made Sundog HAGA v. already, years ago. Get it here: Sundog with TOS 1.04 in RAM excellent. this works well. Didn't find this one on the first place. But it does HAGA version does the job just perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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