What if atari also owned the right to bring nintendo’s ip’s to their atari lynx???

[johannesmutlu]

What if atari also owned the rights to bring portible versions of donkeykong,DKjr,mario bros,popeye(trough parkerbrothers) and sky skipper,and what if those games became part of those launch titles as well,would the atari lynx had been more successful against the gameboy or would the gameboy still would,ve been dominant???

also what if atari secured the rights to make a portible version of tetris and became a launch title either too as well,would the lynx had skyrocked in sales or would most people still had considered $179 waaay too much for a atari lynx????

would the gameboy still had sold well without tetris,remember once it launched in japan on april 1989 it had yet no tetris hame,

Now we all know that a gaming handheld is nothing without games but we also have learned that if a handheld is too expensive then again nobody would buy it either.

i personally think that the lynx could,ve sold 3 times to 7 times more then it actually did but it might have been still no match for the gameboy am mean even ms pac man couldn’t save the lynx,

But i still do really wonder about your troughs about it?

[sirlynxalot]

No none of those would have made a difference.  I remember downloading Mario Bros for dos and being pissed that it was the old Mario arcade game rather than the side scrolling platform Mario games on NES and SNES.  At least for kids such as myself, we wanted Gameboys because we all had NES or SNES and wanted portable versions of those games.  Stuff like the early 80s Nintendo arcade games would not have moved the dial for us at all.  

[Flojomojo]

If “ifs” and “buts” were candy and nuts, we’d all have a merry Christmas. 

[Leonard Smith]

I'm going to start calling johannes-whateverhisnameis the "WHAT IF MAN" or "Mister It's a Miracle!"

 

 

[+Stephen]

1 hour ago, Leonard Smith said:

I'm going to start calling johannes-whateverhisnameis the "WHAT IF MAN" or "Mister It's a Miracle!"

What if these Nintendo properties could be ported to the 5200?

[+x=usr(1536)]

13 minutes ago, Stephen said:

What if these Nintendo properties could be ported to the 5200?

And then back to the Lynx.

 

Think about it, man.  Just think about it.

[Leonard Smith]

Now THAT would be a miracle...

 

[+jgkspsx]

Then the Lynx library would be lame-o BORING and we would never have gotten Bubble Trouble and Kung Food. No thank you.

[sirlynxalot]

Would be sweet to have megamania on lynx. Love that game on 5200. 

[toiletunes]

What if the lynx was a Gameboy, had the same size and shape and library, but had a color screen, back-lit, and still had all the lynx games? Better yet, what if Atari WAS Nintendo?? Mind blown. Balls debuffed.

[Flojomojo]

Keep your balls on. It would still eat AA batteries and cost more than the market leader. 

[+x=usr(1536)]

36 minutes ago, toiletunes said:

Better yet, what if Atari WAS Nintendo?? Mind blown. Balls debuffed.

Then Sega came along and totally destroyed them with the Game Gear but it was really a Lynx in disguise just like that port on the bottom of the NES that could also play Master System games!

[DavidD]

Hmm. I wonder exactly how the Atari/Nintendo licensing contract was written for Donkey Kong, Mario Bros., and Donkey Kong Jr.

 

 

[+x=usr(1536)]

25 minutes ago, DavidD said:

Hmm. I wonder exactly how the Atari/Nintendo licensing contract was written for Donkey Kong, Mario Bros., and Donkey Kong Jr.

At a guess, for specifically-named existing machines or platforms.  Given the timeframe in which that contract was likely to have been written, it probably excluded the Lynx simply because it would be at least another two or three years before Atari and Epyx would start talking to each other.

[johannesmutlu]

On 7/27/2022 at 5:51 AM, x=usr(1536) said:

At a guess, for specifically-named existing machines or platforms.  Given the timeframe in which that contract was likely to have been written, it probably excluded the Lynx simply because it would be at least another two or three years before Atari and Epyx would start talking to each other.

But it also has to do with the fact that you need to secure both the rights to make a game console,a pc or a portible version of donkeykong,for what i do know ,atari was allowed to make a pc(home computer) version of donkeykong,coleco was allowed to make game console version of it and they made handheld version of it(wich may differ from owning the rights to make cartride versions for portible handhelds i suppose!!??)

now here it comes,once coleco died in 1988 from bankrupty,atari not only then owned the rights for the computer version but also the rights for the game console version,but they did not own rights to make portible versions of it for other handheld,NO,

but atari was allowed to make a version for their atari 7800 in 1988,but they didn’t bother making a version for their atari 5200 because by that time the atari 5200 was already 4 years dead and secondly they might,ve feared that even fewer peoples would ever buy a atari 7800.

[+x=usr(1536)]

9 minutes ago, johannesmutlu said:

But it also has to do with the fact that you need to secure both the rights to make a game console,a pc or a portible version of donkeykong,for what i do know ,atari was allowed to make a pc(home computer) version of donkeykong,coleco was allowed to make game console version of it and they made handheld version of it(wich may differ from owning the rights to make cartride versions for portible handhelds i suppose!!??)

Which is why I said the following:

On 7/26/2022 at 10:51 PM, x=usr(1536) said:

for specifically-named existing machines or platforms

Those machines / platofrms would have been specified in whatever contract with Nintendo laid down the terms regarding where their software could (and could not) be ported.

 

And, for the sake of removing any potential confusion on the following point:

On 7/26/2022 at 10:51 PM, x=usr(1536) said:

it probably excluded the Lynx simply because it would be at least another two or three years before Atari and Epyx would start talking to each other.

Since the Lynx didn't exist when Atari would've been entering into the contract with Nintendo, it couldn't have been specified - hence, no port to the Lynx.

 

Consider also that the Lynx came out in 1989.  Donkey Kong was 8 years old by then; Mario Bros. 6 years old.  Neither one has gameplay that would adapt well to the Lynx' form factor.  Even if there were no contractual stipulations preventing their release on the Lynx, it's hard to see how those two considerations would make doing a port an worthwhile endeavour.

[johannesmutlu]

On 7/26/2022 at 2:48 AM, Leonard Smith said:

I'm going to start calling johannes-whateverhisnameis the "WHAT IF MAN" or "Mister It's a Miracle!"

 

 

Well it’s true that i did come with many subjects with what if this and what if that BUT it’s in some cases interesting to look back at the past and look back at a mindset perspective from those peoples from the past and see how it might could,ve be different or just  be a minor difference had those tables in the gaming industry be turned around,

we know that good games could make a difference in selling or flopping a product,but also the price of a product play’s a big rule in whether people want it or not,

we all know that the lynx was too bulky,too power hungry ,too expensive but only had a small library of not sooo attracting games sadly,the gameboy was at the otherhand the opposite,it had lots of games,was cheap,power efficient and it was small,

BUT imagine this,what accepted to buy over the lynx from epix and brought mario land,zelda,tetris etc,, too it but still suffered the same problems,

and now imagine if atari brought the gameboy ,

Then what would nintendo and mario fans would have decided to do,still buying that bulky expensive lynx with mario,zelda etc,, on it,or would they had just still decided to buy the cheap gameboy with only a few non-attractive games for it???

However the virtual boy was a big flop despite it contained some mario games on it,so maybe even nintendo couldn’t have saved the lynx,but we might never know.

[johannesmutlu]

On 7/29/2022 at 7:15 PM, x=usr(1536) said:

Which is why I said the following:

Those machines / platofrms would have been specified in whatever contract with Nintendo laid down the terms regarding where their software could (and could not) be ported.

 

And, for the sake of removing any potential confusion on the following point:

Since the Lynx didn't exist when Atari would've been entering into the contract with Nintendo, it couldn't have been specified - hence, no port to the Lynx.

 

Consider also that the Lynx came out in 1989.  Donkey Kong was 8 years old by then; Mario Bros. 6 years old.  Neither one has gameplay that would adapt well to the Lynx' form factor.  Even if there were no contractual stipulations preventing their release on the Lynx, it's hard to see how those two considerations would make doing a port an worthwhile endeavour.

Well it’s true that by the time the lynx came out that donkeykong was already 8 years old,donkeykong junior 7 years  and mario bros 6 years old,but ms pac man was also 8 years old and it just didn’t stop nemco/atari to put ms pasman on the lynx,despite platform games were all the rage back then,

so i just hardly don’t see why those nintendo games couldn’t sold some more lynx system had they be released on the lynx,because since coleco died in 1988,atari did then also got the right to those console versions of certain nintendo games,but since coleco also contained the rights for those certain nintendo games on portible systems,you might think that once they died that atari also automatically would obtain those rights of those nintendo games to be on portible systems sothat they were allowed to bring those nintendo games on the lynx,right??? Unless am wrong and those portible rights from colleco were go to nintendo and/or nintendo didn’t allow those games to be on competitor’s portible systems once they released their gameboy ( knewing that it might could work against them),BUT still am curious how it would,ve went out to atari had they also obtained the rights for those specific nintendo games to be portible,just inagine donkeykong on the lynx with the atari lynx having to be put sideways in portret mode while both donkeykong and mariobros could be still played on the lynx horizontally in landscape mode,that would be cool😁

well let those homebrewers turn my imagination into reality🤣