Matej Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Want try Chipper are there another Chipmusic trackers, editors? Also what I need for replay on original Lynx? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miker Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) Some time ago I posted sources of Lynx Quest game music (done in Chipper): Here you are: Oh, you can download Chipper from here: http://bjoern.spruck.net/lynx/Chipper_1.7.6.0.zip Edited August 1, 2022 by miker update 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlidellMan Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Furnace Tracker also has Lynx support, and here's a little demo I made with it: https://www.bandlab.com/fighting_zenith/arkanoid-game-over-lynx-a3d0c1a4?revId=1f9aebfc-1811-ed11-b47a-281878315d59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miker Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Regarding Furcace Tracker, there's more (still no full Lynx supprt - no rom export): and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miker Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Out of cutiosity, @Matej anything done? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matej Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 Will try Furnace still learning. Its better Lynx2 or Lynx1 for music or same quality? And what flash cart? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) if tracker supports it,lynx 2 has stereo and attenuation (volumecontrol), which the lynx 1 doesnt have. any flash cards (Karri,Lynxman),SD card adaptors/romemulators, ramcard or any of the new rewriteable roms do work. Edited September 13, 2022 by sage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laoo Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Furnace does support stereo (i.e. separate volume for left/right per channel). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laoo Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Some News in the field. 1. Lynx support has been accepted to VGM. It will be in version 1.72: https://github.com/ValleyBell/libvgm/pull/105 2. Furnace tracker has now VGM export for Lynx music: https://github.com/tildearrow/furnace/pull/936 (There has been no release yet, but there is nigtly build: https://nightly.link/tildearrow/furnace/workflows/build/master) 3. I've published a tool to convert VGM files (with Lynx music exported from Furnace) to LNX images: https://github.com/laoo/VGM2LNX Caveats Generated player does not work with Handy or any other Lynx emulator known at the time of writing. Please use only real hardware. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+karri Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 3 hours ago, laoo said: Some News in the field. 1. Lynx support has been accepted to VGM. It will be in version 1.72: https://github.com/ValleyBell/libvgm/pull/105 2. Furnace tracker has now VGM export for Lynx music: https://github.com/tildearrow/furnace/pull/936 (There has been no release yet, but there is nigtly build: https://nightly.link/tildearrow/furnace/workflows/build/master) 3. I've published a tool to convert VGM files (with Lynx music exported from Furnace) to LNX images: https://github.com/laoo/VGM2LNX Caveats Generated player does not work with Handy or any other Lynx emulator known at the time of writing. Please use only real hardware. The timing could not have been better for me. I am just sitting by my computer to compose some fight music for Wizzy on the 7800 with the SN76489AN chip. And I would love to create same kind of music for the Wizzy version for the Lynx. Yesterday I got my toolpath to work with VGM for the 7800. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 i like the way you prevent it running in emulation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laoo Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 @sage Did not do it on purpose. It just came out that way I might try to fiddle with player to make it run on emulators... or... just fix my emulator. It could help with abandoning obsolete Handy with its offsprings 😈 Funny thing. I asked CJ Reboot to run some music on MiSTer (which is claimed to be cycle exact) and.... it does not work there either. Now I'm curious what's going on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+karri Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 I suppose you are streaming register values like in vgm players. Most games use Chipper or Handy music which is much more predictable. And slower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laoo Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 I've looked at the issue with @42bs and it seems that the player is correct, but the converter was faulty and generated bad data. Accidentally there must be some undocumented feature of Lynx that allowed it to work. I'll verify my hypotheses later. Now it plays on good emulators Updated converter is in the repository. I'm attaching updated VGM pack. VGMPack.zip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 ... still not working for me 😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laoo Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, sage said: ... still not working for me 😕 Added a workaround for a Handy bug that we were talking about I was talking about with 42bs. So short lived release 1.1 is now obsoleted by new and shiny v1.2 Here's updated VGMPack that should work everywhere VGMPack1.2.zip Edited January 26, 2023 by laoo 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 good. now works with libretro and sdl2handy et.al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+karri Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 I assume that this could be combined with huffmunch to just extract the stuff you need during one interrupt and feed it to Mikey? The example songs were very nice and the row speed is quite low thanks to the self running oscillators in Mikey. Thanks for sharing! It is very interesting to see the development of music for the Lynx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laoo Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 On 2/8/2023 at 10:17 AM, karri said: I assume that this could be combined with huffmunch to just extract the stuff you need during one interrupt and feed it to Mikey? I have too many ongoing projects and too little time. I have plans to implement some compression / realtime streaming decompression scheme that could be used while reading data from the cart. There already are such solusions, e.g. LZSS for POKEY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+karri Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 I know the feeling. As I try to develop Wizzy at the same time for Atari 7800 and Atari Lynx I might try to develop similar sounding instruments on both platforms in order to use similar music on them. Perhaps the Huffmunch solution that works on the 7800 could be adapted to work on the Lynx also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 On 1/21/2023 at 5:54 AM, laoo said: Some News in the field. 1. Lynx support has been accepted to VGM. It will be in version 1.72: https://github.com/ValleyBell/libvgm/pull/105 2. Furnace tracker has now VGM export for Lynx music: https://github.com/tildearrow/furnace/pull/936 (There has been no release yet, but there is nigtly build: https://nightly.link/tildearrow/furnace/workflows/build/master) 3. I've published a tool to convert VGM files (with Lynx music exported from Furnace) to LNX images: https://github.com/laoo/VGM2LNX Caveats Generated player does not work with Handy or any other Lynx emulator known at the time of writing. Please use only real hardware. I see that Furnace Tracker supports both Mikey and Pokey. Is there a way to get music from a Lynx game into the tracker? I've searched for something similar to ASMA for the Lynx. Basically, I'd like to try to get a conversion of Lynx BasketBrawl title music on the 8-bit computers. I have absolutely zero experience with trackers or music coding of any kind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+karri Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 32 minutes ago, Stephen said: Is there a way to get music from a Lynx game into the tracker? Short answer - no. There was some guy interested in chip music preservation who was working on an ASMA driver for the Lynx. I have no idea if it became reality or not. Even if you have the chip music you need to define the used instruments in the tracker. @miker amd @laoo have created some wonderful sets of instruments in Furnace tracker for the Lynx. Just browse the examples. But to create the melodies and rhythms you are pretty much on your own. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 5 hours ago, karri said: Short answer - no. There was some guy interested in chip music preservation who was working on an ASMA driver for the Lynx. I have no idea if it became reality or not. Even if you have the chip music you need to define the used instruments in the tracker. @miker amd @laoo have created some wonderful sets of instruments in Furnace tracker for the Lynx. Just browse the examples. But to create the melodies and rhythms you are pretty much on your own. Thanks. Far outside my skillset but I guess if you don't try, you don't learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laoo Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) There has been finally a release of VGMPlay 0.51.1 with Mikey support: https://vgmrips.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=17287#p17287 If someone would be interested with dumping music from Lynx games Felix already can do this from the level of lua script but I can make a small release with dumping exposed in UI Edited December 31, 2023 by laoo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+karri Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 4 hours ago, laoo said: There has been finally a release of VGMPlay 0.51.1 with Mikey support: https://vgmrips.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=17287#p17287 If someone would be interested with dumping music from Lynx games Felix already can do this from the level of lua script but I can make a small release with dumping exposed in UI Great news. There is a few instruments like the flute in "Shadow of the Beast" that I would love to understand how they coded it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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