Albert Posted August 3, 2022 Author Share Posted August 3, 2022 Just now, Mathy said: "Middle of the night" in the US would be during the morning and afternoon in Europe I guess. That's when a lot of us overhere are working. Damn, now I have to think of something else to do at work... Yep, unfortunately no matter when the upgrade/migration takes place, it's going to be offline for a lot of people who are awake. I'm hoping the process will go relatively quickly, but realistically I expect it to take most of Tuesday! ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Hello Albert Don't worry, we'll survive. Sincerely Mathy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 When will the 'I survived the 2022 Atariage forum upgrade.' t-shirts and bumper stickers be available and will they come in multiple colors? 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, Allan said: When will the 'I survived the 2022 Atariage forum upgrade.' t-shirts and bumper stickers be available and will they come in multiple colors? It will be one of the "achievements" you have to earn. 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+frankodragon Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 I'm guessing that someone out there will fail to read the memo about it going offline and complaining about it on other social media. It never fails. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 4, 2022 Author Share Posted August 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, frankodragon said: I'm guessing that someone out there will fail to read the memo about it going offline and complaining about it on other social media. It never fails. There will be a message that the forum is temporarily down, with relevant links to social media, and I'll also update that page periodically with updates. So anybody visiting the forum will see that, and that's all they'll be able to see on the forum until the migration is complete and the forum comes online at its new home. ..Al 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Spear Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Boss man Albert, thank you for continuing to make this resource available to all of us. Going to a cloud provider is a great move, hope it really custs down on overhead it takes to manage things. Good luck! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+thanatos Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 My company went from selling on-premise software, to hosting on owned hardware in a local datacenter, and then after that we moved everything to AWS. I certainly don't miss managing all the physical hardware! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 I'm kind of getting a pang of bad conscience now. I am co-administering three websites of which two forums (one active, one dormant). Our host simply decided to drop all VPS customers last fall, so I had to find another provider and planned to do the move at the end of October 2021. Work has commenced, but I'm not nearly halfway done yet so all three sites have been down ever since. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 53 minutes ago, thanatos said: My company went from selling on-premise software, to hosting on owned hardware in a local datacenter, and then after that we moved everything to AWS. I certainly don't miss managing all the physical hardware! Our move to AWS has been the best thing we ever did. Auto-scaling, backup servers on both coasts, etc. Lot of stuff to learn but it's been worth it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 If the boss upgrading forum software I might as well conduct my own upgrades (and deprecations). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corby Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Can I get like..a billion trillion achievements for being bald annnnd Canadian!? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosystemsearch Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 On 8/3/2022 at 1:12 PM, ZeroPage Homebrew said: I've actually scheduled that for 2026 in celebration of the 40th Anniversary of the retail release of the 7800! No... seriously... I just added it to the list the other day. ? What I'll be doing during the AtariAge Forum transition is a run to regain my title for the world record on Wall Jump Ninja, wish me luck!!! - James How about every Atari 8-bit computer game ever made, including not just the cartridge games, but also the titles on cassette and floppy disk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosystemsearch Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 3 hours ago, thanatos said: My company went from selling on-premise software, to hosting on owned hardware in a local datacenter, and then after that we moved everything to AWS. I certainly don't miss managing all the physical hardware! I can't really blame you on the part about not wanting to deal with fully physical hardware management day in and day out. However, nothing says it has to either completely one way or the other! Cloud-based technology, along with e-books, come with their own set of drawbacks. Why not a 50-50 split between both, or maybe alternatively, 75% physical/25% cloud-based? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ZeroPage Homebrew Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Prosystemsearch said: How about every Atari 8-bit computer game ever made, including not just the cartridge games, but also the titles on cassette and floppy disk? I think the heat death of the universe would come first before I would be able to go through all those games, hahah. - James 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosystemsearch Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 (edited) LOL ok then. Though, fyi, its not a fully established fact that the universe, if it does for whatever reason, end up in a heat death. Even if something causes an end to the universe, it could end up being more of a Big Freeze instead of a Big Crunch. ? Edited August 4, 2022 by Prosystemsearch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhataKowinkydink Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 I've got several tabs open and several bookmarked... will a simple edit of the URL suffice for these topics on the new server? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clh333 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Thank you for the update; to the forum, and to the forum users. Good luck. -CH- 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian W. Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Migration is never easy. It's a lot of pressure to succeed. I know You can do it, and the nay sayers can keep ? quiet. A little design tweak, improved experience and less maintenance work for you server side support is significantly more important than the where's my "who moved my cheese." complaint crowds needs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 5, 2022 Author Share Posted August 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Brian W. said: Migration is never easy. It's a lot of pressure to succeed. I know You can do it, and the nay sayers can keep ? quiet. Have their been any naysayers? ..Al 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 5, 2022 Author Share Posted August 5, 2022 17 hours ago, WhataKowinkydink said: I've got several tabs open and several bookmarked... will a simple edit of the URL suffice for these topics on the new server? The old bookmarks should still work after the transition, but, yes, you can simply update the URLs. ..Al 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Albert said: Have their been any naysayers? ..Al Nay. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+thanatos Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 18 hours ago, Prosystemsearch said: I can't really blame you on the part about not wanting to deal with fully physical hardware management day in and day out. However, nothing says it has to either completely one way or the other! Cloud-based technology, along with e-books, come with their own set of drawbacks. Why not a 50-50 split between both, or maybe alternatively, 75% physical/25% cloud-based? Well that would all depend on the environment, where in our case having things in 2 places would be pointless and not work. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 5, 2022 Author Share Posted August 5, 2022 Just now, thanatos said: Well that would all depend on the environment, where in our case having things in 2 places would be pointless and not work. Yeah, that's not something I could do, either. I mean, for a short while the forum will be on its own up in the cloud, but the store will join it later (although with a different company), and I'll do the same with the main site, which has minimal requirements versus the store and forum. That I might just put in AWS, as I'd like to be able to spool off snapshots for development purposes (as the main site needs a lot of development!) I have used AWS a fair bit in the past professionally, but as it's been a while I know I'll need to relearn quite a bit. ..Al 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jgkspsx Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 19 hours ago, Prosystemsearch said: LOL ok then. Though, fyi, its not a fully established fact that the universe, if it does for whatever reason, end up in a heat death. Even if something causes an end to the universe, it could end up being more of a Big Freeze instead of a Big Crunch. ? Wait wait wait, heat death IS the Big Freeze. A Big Crunch (or, for that matter, a Big Rip) do not seem possible given the observed parameters of the universe. However false vacuum collapse is a very real and painful possibility… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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