Keven Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Looking for guidance with connecting tipi with pi 4. Thanks all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOME AUTOMATION Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 ...A good place to start! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelpedant Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 And the wiring can be found here: https://github.com/jedimatt42/tipi/wiki/TIPI-to-PI-Wiring 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duewester Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Hmm, looks like you already have some good answers. I (just me and my OCD) gotta think that a Pi4 is a little overkill for the Tipi. But, if that's what you got you gotta work with it. I've squeezed in a Pi 02w into each of my Tipi setups. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDMike Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Duewester said: Hmm, looks like you already have some good answers. I (just me and my OCD) gotta think that a Pi4 is a little overkill for the Tipi. But, if that's what you got you gotta work with it. I've squeezed in a Pi 02w into each of my Tipi setups. Actually, I've got a pi3 and a 4 and even though my pi4 has 4mb, it's slow. I've reimaged both with bookshelf and OpenOffice, and what dog slow the 4 is. Both my pi's are relatively new, with the 4 just received a month ago, I'm having to add the gpu_ and CPU performance tweaks and I still don't see a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+dhe Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 When you get this sorted - I would appreciate a photo of what it looks like connected! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrhodes Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 I don't own a Pi 4, but i assumed the pin layout was the same for Pi 3b+ and 4. That way, different pi "hats" could be used on a Pi 3 or 4 interchangeably... That said, i googled "raspberry pi 4 pinout same as pi 3 pinout" and got this, hope it helps: https://electronicsmith.com/raspberry-pi-pinout-for-all-models/ Also, read the tipi wiki. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duewester Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 4 hours ago, GDMike said: Actually, I've got a pi3 and a 4 and even though my pi4 has 4mb, it's slow. I've reimaged both with bookshelf and OpenOffice, and what dog slow the 4 is. Both my pi's are relatively new, with the 4 just received a month ago, I'm having to add the gpu_ and CPU performance tweaks and I still don't see a difference. You might wanna look at the sd card on that Pi4. When I have to use the sd card on 4's (1,2,4,or 8gb) I go for the fastest cards available. I prefer to use SSD's (with appropriate adapter). You can get a cheap 120gb ssd these days and it will outrun any sd card (or usb drive). But, that's totally off topic. Whichever you decide to use, don't put anything other than the Tipi stuff on the card. Tipi doesn't require a lot of speed (thus the reason to use a Pi 0w or 02w if you have them). The 02w will be comparable to a Pi3b as far as speed goes and it's usually cheaper (if you can get on a waitlist and avoid the scalpers). EVEN MORE OFF TOPIC- I wonder if a Pico W could run the Tipi? The pic is my "Frankentipi" It's a Pi-02w in a Pi3 adapter board with a long set of jumpers. I don't know if it's alive yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDMike Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Yes, you are right about the SD card..I keep forgetting how much that plays..I need to figure out how to just use a damn HD on the USB port and throw out the SD card phenomenon junk.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duewester Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, GDMike said: Yes, you are right about the SD card..I keep forgetting how much that plays..I need to figure out how to just use a damn HD on the USB port and throw out the SD card phenomenon junk.. https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-240GB-Solid-SA400S37-240G/dp/B01N5IB20Q/ref=asc_df_B01N5IB20Q/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309807187084&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15681109794113173510&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9010623&hvtargid=pla-331198281812&psc=1 and https://www.amazon.com/Reletech-External-Enclosure-Tool-Free-Supports/dp/B08ZSDVMSP/ref=asc_df_B08ZSDVMSP/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=546144295672&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15059203107111795055&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9010623&hvtargid=pla-1486438265924&psc=1 Plug em together, plug into usb 3 port, open SD Card Copier on Pi (Accessories), select SD From and USB To. Probably less than 35USD and 35 minutes. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jedimatt42 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 PICO W doesn't run Linux. The TIPI software depends on a lot of the Linux stack. All the rest of the things in this thread that are related to TIPI have been covered in the TIPI support thread. It is long, but worth a read. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDMike Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Thx Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duewester Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 @jedimatt42 What about Fuzix? Is it too small of a Unix variant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jedimatt42 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 That wouldn't be a TIPI anymore. Do they have ghostscript on fuzix? Python3? Samba? I think it was a mistake of Raspberry PI org to carry the 'pi' moniker to the pico. The pico is a high end microcontroller, and the PI line are low end single board computers. If you add some peripherals and start from scratch with software, a pico could provide a percentage of what TIPI provides. But there are too many better things to do with time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duewester Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) On 8/16/2022 at 10:49 AM, jedimatt42 said: But there are too many better things to do with time. Not trying to step on toes or anything. Just exploring options to the Pi's With Pi0w being scalped for $200. I'm just trying to think of low cost (and available) alternatives. I really appreciate the work you've done on the Tipi and I hope I haven't stepped out of bounds. Edited August 17, 2022 by Duewester spelling and grammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+arcadeshopper Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Duewester said: Not trying to step on toes or anything. Just exploring options to the Pi's With Pi0w being scalped for $200. I'm just trying to think of low cost (and available) alternatives. I really appreciate the work you've done on the Tipi and I hope I haven't stepped out of bounds. I recently picked up pizero2w's for 45ea with power supply, case, cables and a 32g sandisk.. if you pay attention to the real vendors you can find them at a real price. ignore the scalpers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duewester Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 40 minutes ago, arcadeshopper said: I recently picked up pizero2w's for 45ea with power supply, case, cables and a 32g sandisk.. if you pay attention to the real vendors you can find them at a real price. ignore the scalpers @arcadeshopperWow, that's awesome. I do ignore the scalpers. Sometimes - just for kicks - I call out the scalper in their Amazon Questions. Some get pretty irate and some just roll with it. I got my two Pi02Ws free with my magazine subscriptions when that was their freebie. Now I think they give a Pico W. I primarily deal with Adafruit, Pimoroni and Canakit for my Pi filling. Today, just a few minutes ago I got a Pimoroni 10 Year anniversary email and in it was a link to their 4gb Pi4 "Essentials" kit (Power supply, Pi 4 4g, case and NOOBs on a card). for 66 pounds English. Didn't really need all the extras but man I was happy to find a Pi4 - anythingGB. And OBTW, love your shop for my TI needs. I should have looked deeper when I was Ordering 4164 chips. I found the adapter boards and didn't bother to scroll around and see that you had those too.🥲 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+dhe Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Hi @Keven did you get this setup and tested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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