Trebor Posted September 28, 2022 Author Share Posted September 28, 2022 2 hours ago, slx said: I browsed through all the "subchapters" and it is mentioned neither there nor in the youtube description where all the other games are listed....:( 1 hour ago, Greg2600 said: They haven't posted last night's video to YouTube yet. I cannot stand Twitch, as they constantly expire my password and resetting is the worst process ever. This link 'should' work to view the 1942 premiere video without a need to log into Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1603234817 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 I hate Twitch due to utterly garbage UX and site design. It’s just terrible in so many fundamental ways. tl;dr: I’ll wait for a short YouTube gameplay-only video. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Trebor said: This link 'should' work to view the 1942 premiere video without a need to log into Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1603234817 It does not. Login/Sign up screen and I dont remember my password ATM. 😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted September 28, 2022 Author Share Posted September 28, 2022 Odd, works for me - "Log In" and "Sign Up" prompts in the upper right corner and bar at the very bottom, though not preventing viewing. Using Chrome with Adblock Plus extension on a desktop (in case that makes a difference). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Dumb me. Yes in the browser it works! App no good. Watched it and yes the game looks great! Seems to play well too. Music and sound effects are kinda weird maybe WIP? Love the effort to bring this port out though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linndrum Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Damn! That's awesome 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ZeroPage Homebrew Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 11 hours ago, Silver Back said: Incredibly exciting. Unfortunately I couldn't catch the stream but hopefully the YouTube upload is coming soon. 9 hours ago, Greg2600 said: They haven't posted last night's video to YouTube yet. I cannot stand Twitch, as they constantly expire my password and resetting is the worst process ever. Here you go, it just went live on YouTube! Skip to 40m18s for the start of my playthrough to stage 20. - James (WATCH AT 1080P60 FOR BEST QUALITY) 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo930 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 16 hours ago, playsoft said: The music uses the YM2151 with a really simple player, just a list of delay (frames), channel and note. I was able to generate this data from the arcade/NES .vgm files and the C64 .mid file. The OPM instruments were taken from the fb1_factory collection, I only use 6 different instruments but really liked JOrgan1 so that gets used a lot! Are you going to implement an arcade-authentic music track? I think I recall someone saying this was a possibility on the stream. The game looks outstanding. It sounds great too. I just would like to be able to play with the original sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mksmith Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 @playsoft and @TIX Wow - this is an incredible port! gfx and scrolling, snd and playability looks brilliant. The 7800 is an untapped machine and Paul you have taken it to a new level my friend! Scrolling and shooters for mine are not represented enough on the platform - well done! Like James I played the c64 and arcade versions growing up and love this game. 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MarcoJ Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 Great work devs. Just saw this on ZPH. Well done. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Muddyfunster Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 This looks fantastic, nice work folks. Looking forward to playing this. I grew up with the ZX Spectrum version so this is a very welcome trip down memory lane. Thanks! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+playsoft Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 12 hours ago, christo930 said: Are you going to implement an arcade-authentic music track? I think I recall someone saying this was a possibility on the stream. The game looks outstanding. It sounds great too. I just would like to be able to play with the original sound. The original background music is present, but it is only used on the title screen and the % and point up stages. I don't want to add any new options, but I could extend the audio options to include this. The original background music is the weakest of the .vgm conversions. I tried so many different OPM instruments, but I couldn't find one with the raspy whistle of the arcade. All the whistles and pipes were too pure, making the music difficult to tolerate! We settled on one called "pan_flo" (some sort of pan pipe/flute?) which sounds more like morse code than a whistle, but it is a lot easier to listen to. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+playsoft Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 8 hours ago, mksmith said: Scrolling and shooters for mine are not represented enough on the platform - well done! Thanks a lot Matt. Back in the day I went from the A8 to the ST and missed out on the 7800, so I had no preconceptions. I mentioned to a programming friend that I was going to try and do something on the 7800 and his immediate reply was "oh, no scrolling then!". So, there is some sort of misconception out there, as I think the 7800 has great scrolling capabilities. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Back Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 The game looks fantastic and I can't wait to play it. However I only have the concerto and according to the stream it won't work on that currently and even if it does via patch the sound won't work ever. I understand there's a new multicart coming that I'm sure I'll invest in, but has there been any talks with Albert or Shawn about a limited cartridge release? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, Silver Back said: The game looks fantastic and I can't wait to play it. However I only have the concerto and according to the stream it won't work on that currently and even if it does via patch the sound won't work ever. I understand there's a new multicart coming that I'm sure I'll invest in, but has there been any talks with Albert or Shawn about a limited cartridge release? The sound effects would still work as that uses the TIA inside the 7800. But the music is only through the FM chip in the DF cart and yes, has been emulated in the upcoming 7800GD from SainT. So I imagine that if the concerto is patched to work and support the initial game at least, that you can still play it but SFX only for the time being. As for a cart release, this has been discussed and since the YM chips are really needed for the full game experience, I'm not sure how feasible that really is and I believe it has been discussed as being a ROM only release. If that plan has changed, then I'm sure I will be corrected post haste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desiv Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, -^CrossBow^- said: But the music is only through the FM chip in the DF cart and yes, has been emulated in the upcoming 7800GD from SainT. Wasn't someone possibly working on a passthru FM cart??? I thought I remember something about that... Edited September 29, 2022 by desiv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, desiv said: Wasn't someone possibly working on a passthru FM cart??? I thought I remember something about that... @rj1307 Was and I think he might have even released his schemes for it so that others could work on it and make it an actuality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 FM synthesis is oooooold tech and there are a ton of compatible, reverse-engineered chips that can do it. I can’t imagine there isn’t some kind of workable chip that could be found in suitable quantities with some effort. Of course, the question then becomes how much effort is it worth if a physical release isn’t planned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 19 minutes ago, DrVenkman said: FM synthesis is oooooold tech and there are a ton of compatible, reverse-engineered chips that can do it. I can’t imagine there isn’t some kind of workable chip that could be found in suitable quantities with some effort. Of course, the question then becomes how much effort is it worth if a physical release isn’t planned? I think the main issue is the design of a board just for this game to allow the use of a YM2151 to be used. And that is assuming you can find a reliable source for the chips that are fake badged and non working. Ran into this more than once with the YM3438s when I was offering synth chip swapouts in Genesis/MD systems some years back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevEng Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 I'm late to the party, but WOW! Super work @playsoft and @TIX!!! 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 30 minutes ago, -^CrossBow^- said: I think the main issue is the design of a board just for this game to allow the use of a YM2151 to be used. And that is assuming you can find a reliable source for the chips that are fake badged and non working. Ran into this more than once with the YM3438s when I was offering synth chip swapouts in Genesis/MD systems some years back. Why use a vintage YM chip at all? As I said, FM synthesis is old tech and has been implemented in a bazillion different chips. You could even do what the PenguinSoft guys did for Rikki & Vikki and just use a modern ARM or microcontroller to play a tracker tune for music. Lots of ways to skin the cat if you want to do a physical release. But if no physical release is intended, then of course it’s not worth the time and effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TwentySixHundred Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Watched on ZPH and the game looks amazing! Looks to play very much like the original. Very nice port, well done guys. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrekMD Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 My reaction at seeing this game... 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 I may try a POKEY or Yamaha rendition of the tune ... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+playsoft Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 15 hours ago, RevEng said: I'm late to the party, but WOW! Super work @playsoft and @TIX!!! You will recognise the sound effects! Also, the P38 loop sound effect was generated by sound2tia. Thanks! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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