Airshack Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) Tandy Assembly mind blowing demo. Enjoyable even for 99/4A folks! Start at 30min mark, second presenter, awesome Assembly dev tool: Would love to see this for our TI system. Skip ahead to 30:40 into the video. The longer you watch the cooler it gets! Edited October 1, 2022 by Airshack 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmusr Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Lots of cool ideas there. The ability to place breakpoints directly in my assembly source code is something I always wanted. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+retroclouds Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Think that the js99er emulator has a lot of potential forming the base of an IDE. If I'd to do something in that direction I'd probably use vscode as the editor part and integrate js99er into it. With vscode you could probably make a web rendition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Arno Puder! Can't believe it, he was scientific assistant in our research group at Frankfurt University while I did my Ph.D. there! (end of the 1990s) What a small world... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmusr Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 47 minutes ago, retroclouds said: Think that the js99er emulator has a lot of potential forming the base of an IDE. If I'd to do something in that direction I'd probably use vscode as the editor part and integrate js99er into it. With vscode you could probably make a web rendition. We already have a plugin for IntelliJ IDEA, so I would rather focus on that IDE. Using one of the embedded browser plugins I can run JS99er in a side panel inside the IDE. I haven't managed to make IntelliJ auto-build my project on changes, however. And you still need to open your TI file manually in JS99er. If the build script could talk to the embedded browser we could implement full integration. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbdigriz Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Can't hurt to have both, or more. Don't know enough about the Jet Brains product. I know there is a proprietary and a community edition. Does the latter have enough functionality to get things done without being feeling pressured to get the former? Question I've been meaning to ask somewhere, might as well be here. I like JS99er, and I like that it's open source, I don't care for the fact that my-trs-80.com uses cloud storage for your account, wants a 3rd party login, exclusively, and hides their whois info. (TBF, may not be their call.) I still have reservations about the stability and security of modern script ecosystems, but JS99er is well done. Way better use for js than tracking users and serving ads 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmusr Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, jbdigriz said: I know there is a proprietary and a community edition. Does the latter have enough functionality to get things done without being feeling pressured to get the former? I don't think there is anything in the Ultimate edition you need for assembly coding. https://www.jetbrains.com/products/compare/?product=idea&product=idea-ce 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airshack Posted October 2, 2022 Author Share Posted October 2, 2022 I was really impressed to see the assembler working in real time. Also very cool to see the graphics screen editor auto-load data into the source code as it was being modified in real time. The seamless integration between the editor, assembler, emulator, and even graphics editor was pretty amazing. A bit of a dream come true for the TRS-80 guys as the room erupted with applause mid-presentation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airshack Posted October 2, 2022 Author Share Posted October 2, 2022 8 hours ago, jbdigriz said: Don't know enough about the Jet Brains product. I know there is a proprietary and a community edition. I was advised by this AtariAge TI group to try the community edition a few years ago. Since then I haven’t looked back as the 99/4A plug-ins (for BASIC and Assembly) are especially helpful. The software does not badger you to upgrade at all. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+InsaneMultitasker Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 I like the instruction timing display, so that you could see how many clock cycles a particular routine requires. Granted, for the /4a that might require a lot of consideration for where you are read from/writing to, but it would be neat to see that dynamically displayed as you fiddle around with the instructions, memory addresses, rolled loops versus unrolled, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airshack Posted October 2, 2022 Author Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) On 10/1/2022 at 7:23 AM, mizapf said: Arno Puder! Can't believe it, he was scientific assistant in our research group at Frankfurt University while I did my Ph.D. there! (end of the 1990s) Arno was delighted that you were able to see his presentation. He would like to hear from you Micheal @mizapf. Arno’s info: arno@retrostore.org Edited October 2, 2022 by Airshack 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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