TheDash Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 A friend of mine gave me this recently, because apparently it didn't work. I cleaned the pins and *bing*, it did work. So I'll be giving it back to them 😊  But I've never seen a Vic 20 cartridge quite like this before - a printed paper label on the usual aluminium front of early Commodore cartridges on the Vic 20, but nothing printed on the aluminium itself. A little look inside shows an unusual looking ROM chip, not the standard black ones as in every other Vic cartridge I've seen. And of course a brown case - no part numbers or 'Made in ....' tag moulded into it though.  The game seems just like any other version of Mole Attack I've seen, but I haven't done any byte for byte comparison though.  So my question is - is this some kind of pre-production demo or review version of a Commodore cartridge? Has anyone seen anything similar before?    Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supergun Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Well, the games IC is neither a mask rom nor an eprom. And the chip has gold trim and gold legs, so it certainly would not have been a mass production cart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Some of the last production of certain carts were blank shells with paper labels glued to them. Seems legit to me but not a proto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDash Posted November 6, 2022 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Mayhem said: Some of the last production of certain carts were blank shells with paper labels glued to them. Seems legit to me but not a proto. Are you suggesting it's actually the other way around then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmg Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/4/2022 at 7:07 PM, Supergun said: Well, the games IC is neither a mask rom nor an eprom. And the chip has gold trim and gold legs, so it certainly would not have been a mass production cart. Nah, it's definitely a mask ROM or EPROM (probably the latter and it has a window under the MOS cover). However, for whatever reason they've used ceramic packaging (CDIP) here instead of plastic (PDIP). The ROM label matches the known number for Mole Attack, FWIW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supergun Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 11 hours ago, TheDash said: Are you suggesting it's actually the other way around then? The chip itself is from the 13th week of 1982. Hardly what I would call a later release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I've seen pictures of similar VIC-20 cartridges before. I believe those were review copies or used at trade shows before production cartridges were available. Definitely different than production grade, but not quite prototype either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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