+dhe Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Anyone have any experience at hooking an mt32-pi to an ST? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarkdluG Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Yes, works great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+dhe Posted November 15, 2022 Author Share Posted November 15, 2022 Which pi hat did you buy? What cable did you use? What software did you test with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryleffaovell Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 5 hours ago, dhe said: Which pi hat did you buy? What cable did you use? What software did you test with? Same for me: mt32-pi "just works". I'm using standard DIN 41524 5-pin cables (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIN_connector) and did some tests with Cubase and some Sierra games. MIDI capable games must be configured to use MT32 or General MIDI - have a look for "other executables" in games folder, i.e. MUSIC.PRG for Sierra games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarkdluG Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 I think any of these will work, but I soldered my own mt32-pi-midi-hat. As stated above, standard MIDI cables can be found in a lot of places. No Atari specific is needed. I have tested with Scumm-vm lite and some general midi player program. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 What sort of prices for a complete mt32-pi system...? The Roland MT32 devices are about £250+ on eBay (all seem to be in Japan). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari8guy Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Cheapest I've seen. https://www.serdashop.com/MP32L 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 This is all a bit 'foreign' to me.....😬 Is that all you need (in the link) connected to Atari MIDI port...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari8guy Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 You need the PI... (you don't actually need the hat, if you're willing to buy a MIDI to USB cable (get a good one, the cheap ones don't work)). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+dhe Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 12 hours ago, Atari8guy said: Cheapest I've seen. https://www.serdashop.com/MP32L Compared to some of the case mods I've seen, that's a VERY nice hat+case. Thanks for pointing it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 8 hours ago, Atari8guy said: You need the PI... (you don't actually need the hat, if you're willing to buy a MIDI to USB cable (get a good one, the cheap ones don't work)). Again sorry for STUPID question....but, with a rasp-pi does it need to be connected and set up like a regular computer, with mouse, keyboard, display etc. Looking online for the cost of a rasp-pi and mt32-pi, I could get a used Roland MT32. I have only used real PC's/Macs....😬.....not had any experience with pi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarkdluG Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, MarkC said: Again sorry for STUPID question....but, with a rasp-pi does it need to be connected and set up like a regular computer, with mouse, keyboard, display etc. Looking online for the cost of a rasp-pi and mt32-pi, I could get a used Roland MT32. I have only used real PC's/Macs....😬.....not had any experience with pi. No, no need to connect all that to set up the RPi. You format a micro-SD card. Extract a zip on to it. Configure a *cfg file for your need. For MT32 you need ROM images (control rom and pcm rom). They are not included for copyright reason, but can be found pretty easy on the net. For other systems you can emulate you can download other SoundFonts. All of this is written on the wiki page of the github of this project: https://github.com/dwhinham/mt32-pi/wiki 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, MarkC said: Again sorry for STUPID question....but, with a rasp-pi does it need to be connected and set up like a regular computer, with mouse, keyboard, display etc. Looking online for the cost of a rasp-pi and mt32-pi, I could get a used Roland MT32. I have only used real PC's/Macs....😬.....not had any experience with pi. typically you can just download an SD card image and copy it to a real microSD card and pop it into the pi and boot. A lot of times these are reasonably configured out of the box. If you need further configurations, you could plug into a monitor/keyboard/mouse.. but a lot of Pi OSes will allow remote configuration through ssh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 34 minutes ago, snarkdluG said: All of this is written on the wiki page of the github of this project: https://github.com/dwhinham/mt32-pi/wiki This says it needs a pi3, I thought I saw someone running it on a pi zero in another thread? just curious because I have a spare pi2 laying around and this would be a perfect use for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari8guy Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 37 minutes ago, snarkdluG said: No, no need to connect all that to set up the RPi. You format a micro-SD card. Extract a zip on to it. Configure a *cfg file for your need. For MT32 you need ROM images (control rom and pcm rom). They are not included for copyright reason, but can be found pretty easy on the net. For other systems you can emulate you can download other SoundFonts. All of this is written on the wiki page of the github of this project: https://github.com/dwhinham/mt32-pi/wiki snarkdluG has it right. It will run headless (meaning no keyboard, mouse or display)...sometimes I have to pop the card out to change the .cfg file for MT32 or General Midi, but if you're just gaming, just pick one and leave it at that.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+poobah Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 7 hours ago, zzip said: This says it needs a pi3, I thought I saw someone running it on a pi zero in another thread? just curious because I have a spare pi2 laying around and this would be a perfect use for it. A pi 2 won't do it. You need a pi3 or 4 (a or b) or a pi Zero 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 18 hours ago, poobah said: A pi 2 won't do it. You need a pi3 or 4 (a or b) or a pi Zero 2 The FAQ says a 2 might work but hasn't been extensively tested. The Pi2's aren't that much weaker than Pi3's, so I'd be shocked if it really wasn't able to handle the task. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 On 11/17/2022 at 12:14 AM, Atari8guy said: You need the PI... (you don't actually need the hat, if you're willing to buy a MIDI to USB cable (get a good one, the cheap ones don't work)). True, but if you don't use a hat with a DAC you'll have to use the Pis PWM audio output, which is low quality. 30 minutes ago, zzip said: The Pi2's aren't that much weaker than Pi3's, so I'd be shocked if it really wasn't able to handle the task. Pi2 would struggle and probably require overclocking/sound quality compromises. Munt requires a non trivial amount of CPU power (in the SOC realm at least) to perform well. On 11/17/2022 at 5:26 AM, dhe said: Compared to some of the case mods I've seen, that's a VERY nice hat+case. Thanks for pointing it out. I have this hat/case, it's quite nice : ) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+poobah Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 8 hours ago, zzip said: The FAQ says a 2 might work but hasn't been extensively tested. The Pi2's aren't that much weaker than Pi3's, so I'd be shocked if it really wasn't able to handle the task. A later model 2 might be OK overclocked (they switched to the 64 bit SoC for later 2's) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 On 11/18/2022 at 8:27 PM, poobah said: A later model 2 might be OK overclocked (they switched to the 64 bit SoC for later 2's) They came out a year apart and the specs aren't that different, the Pi3 only has about a 33% faster clock than the Pi2 B models. Supposedly it does work with some configurations tweaks according to the author: https://github.com/dwhinham/mt32-pi/issues/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 3 hours ago, zzip said: Supposedly it does work with some configurations tweaks according to the author: Yes, with: On 11/18/2022 at 12:53 PM, remowilliams said: Pi2 would struggle and probably require overclocking/sound quality compromises 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Success! I bought MP32L https://www.serdashop.com/MP32L (+ MIDI cable), added Raspberry PI 3 model B and printed the case. Old and new games (SCUMM-ST) work. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggn Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 And for the people who want to try out more things on their MT32/MT32-pis, we released a small intro near Christmas: https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=93111 Apologies for not mentioning this sooner here, I simply forgot! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 36 minutes ago, ggn said: And for the people who want to try out more things on their MT32/MT32-pis, we released a small intro near Christmas: https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=93111 Apologies for not mentioning this sooner here, I simply forgot! I mentioned your demo on twitter, Mastodon and Facebook but back then I didn't have mp32-pi and I completely forgot about it... Now I will run your demo on real hardware, thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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