.mad. Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 classic99 has a special feature CALL FILES(0) to free up a little more memory. so (i think) a few tape games can run from a disk. i am wondering if it's possible that MAME can be edited in source, bios, rom. to have the same/similar feature as classic99. *i guess not, but i have to ask. :) i can get the games working with minimem, but it's a very long winded process. Run_Emulator_Send_Keys([4]{enter}1[2]call init{enter}[1]call files(1){enter}[1]old dsk1.%minimem_value%{enter}[22]save expmem2{enter}[2]call load(-31888,63,255){enter}[1]new{enter}[1]old expmem2{enter}[21]run{enter}{pause}||50) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ti99iuc Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 If you can use RXB it will work with CALL FILES (0) on the real TI99 too. very useful! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tursi Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 3 hours ago, .mad. said: classic99 has a special feature CALL FILES(0) to free up a little more memory. so (i think) a few tape games can run from a disk. i am wondering if it's possible that MAME can be edited in source, bios, rom. to have the same/similar feature as classic99. *i guess not, but i have to ask. i can get the games working with minimem, but it's a very long winded process. Run_Emulator_Send_Keys([4]{enter}1[2]call init{enter}[1]call files(1){enter}[1]old dsk1.%minimem_value%{enter}[22]save expmem2{enter}[2]call load(-31888,63,255){enter}[1]new{enter}[1]old expmem2{enter}[21]run{enter}{pause}||50) Mizapf will speak up I'm sure, but the reason Classic99 has CALL FILES(0) is its custom disk DSR does not require video RAM buffers. Since MAME runs only original TI code and doesn't create new devices that don't exist, I wouldn't expect it to happen. I'm not entirely sure how Rich got CALL FILES(0) to work in RXB, but RXB is a pretty good compatibility upgrade for TI BASIC and tapes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.mad. Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 Thanks for the info. This looks very promising and is going to work!. do any of you have an RPK version of RXB 2022D. i can only get the older versions of RBX to run in MAME. which doesn't have CALL FILES(0). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 6 hours ago, .mad. said: i am wondering if it's possible that MAME can be edited in source, bios, rom. to have the same/similar feature as classic99. The limitation is not enforced by MAME, but by the TI ROM. You'll have to patch the ROMs/GROMs; MAME cannot do anything about that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrax27407 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Here is RXB2022D. rxb2022d.rpk 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RXB Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 4 hours ago, Tursi said: Mizapf will speak up I'm sure, but the reason Classic99 has CALL FILES(0) is its custom disk DSR does not require video RAM buffers. Since MAME runs only original TI code and doesn't create new devices that don't exist, I wouldn't expect it to happen. I'm not entirely sure how Rich got CALL FILES(0) to work in RXB, but RXB is a pretty good compatibility upgrade for TI BASIC and tapes. I kinda cheated. This is the code I wrote in GPL that overrides the normal CALL FILES(#) so it that # is 0 (zero) it uses a routine I wrote. *********************************************************** * CALL FILES(number) 0 to 15 * *********************************************************** SFILES DATA SSIZE STRI 'FILES' * FILES DATA $+2 CALL COMB * ( CALL CLSALL * Close all open files CALL RXBFIL * Set files BR RXBNEW * Go do a NEW RXBFIL CALL SUBLP3 * Get Files value DCZ @FAC * Zero? BS RXBF0 * Yes, RXB CALL FILES(0) DCHE 16,@FAC * 16 or more to high BS ERRBV * Yes, BAD VALUE error CEQ RPARZ,@CHAT * )? BR ERRSYN * SYNTAX ERROR XML PGMCHR * Skip ) DCLR @FAC2 * Clear ST @FAC1,@FAC2 * Load file value DST >0116,V@VROAZ * Set files buffer space DCHE 256,@PAD * BR DSRDSS * ADD >10,@VROAZ+1 * DSRDSS DST VROAZ,@FAC12 * CALL LINK * BYTE >0A * ST @ERCODE,@PAD2 * SRL 4,@FAC6 * CZ @FAC6 * BR ERRFE * CEQ >20,@PAD2 * BS ERRFE * RTN * RXBF0 CEQ RPARZ,@CHAT * )? BR ERRSYN * SYNTAX ERROR XML PGMCHR * Skip ) DST >3CEF,@>8370 * Set FILE(0) VDP Highest address RTN * Return ************************************************************ Look at RXBF0 in the code. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RXB Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, .mad. said: Thanks for the info. This looks very promising and is going to work!. do any of you have an RPK version of RXB 2022D. i can only get the older versions of RBX to run in MAME. which doesn't have CALL FILES(0). I am close to release of RXB 2022G, then will work on RXB 2023. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.mad. Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 2 hours ago, mizapf said: The limitation is not enforced by MAME, but by the TI ROM. You'll have to patch the ROMs/GROMs. that's what i was originally thinking of... i can hex edit the rom files and rebuild the source, but have no idea what to change myself. I don't have any hang-ups about using hacked ROMs. ;) Thanks!, the above RPK file doesn't work for me. it starts up with a garbled screen. the "C" file is 24kb. i am sure it needs to be split into x3 8kb for RPK or x4 6kb for internal MAME cart (which i have done). *had similar problem before, but forgot exactly what it was. but need to know correct layout xml. the old working 2012 version is in 3 files like this... with C and D being 8kb each. <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> <romset version="1.0" listname="rxb2012"> <resources> <rom id="gromimage" file="rxbg.bin"/> <rom id="romimage" file="rxbc.bin"/> <rom id="rom2image" file="rxbd.bin"/> </resources> <configuration> <pcb type="gromemu"> <socket id="grom_socket" uses="gromimage"/> <socket id="rom_socket" uses="romimage"/> <socket id="rom2_socket" uses="rom2image"/> </pcb> </configuration> </romset> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RXB Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 So MESS/MAME cannot use FINALGROM? That means we can not use RXB 2021 or RXB 2022? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Please read my explanations at https://github.com/mamedev/mame/blob/master/src/devices/bus/ti99/gromport/cartridges.cpp#L1326 for the "gromemu" type. In particular, you can only use rom2_socket for Extended Basic-like configurations (2 ROMs with 8K each). The rom2_socket was included to simplify such an Extended Basic setting. If you want to use multi-banked ROMs, you have to pack all banks into one ROM file, i.e. the first 8K is bank 0, then 8K for bank 1, and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RXB Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 20 minutes ago, mizapf said: Please read my explanations at https://github.com/mamedev/mame/blob/master/src/devices/bus/ti99/gromport/cartridges.cpp#L1326 for the "gromemu" type. In particular, you can only use rom2_socket for Extended Basic-like configurations (2 ROMs with 8K each). The rom2_socket was included to simplify such an Extended Basic setting. If you want to use multi-banked ROMs, you have to pack all banks into one ROM file, i.e. the first 8K is bank 0, then 8K for bank 1, and so on. RXB 2021 and RXB 2022 have 3 in total 8K banks in one ROM file and one GROM file. Just like in Classic99 or FINALGROM there are only 2 files for RXB 2021 or RXB 2022 i.e. RXBC.bin and RXBG.bin RXBC has 8K ROMs of 3 banks of 8K. RXBG has 8K GROMs of 5 banks of 8K. As your post says only 2 banks of ROM are allowed this means FINALGROM or carts like it will never work in MAME. FINALGROM works fine in my TI99/4A with console only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Read again. I said if you use "rom2_socket" you can only use two banks. If you don't use "rom2_socket" you can use more banks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RXB Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, mizapf said: Read again. I said if you use "rom2_socket" you can only use two banks. If you don't use "rom2_socket" you can use more banks. And can you use FINALGROM on MAME? YES OR NO? It is a cartridge like many other Cartridges. Simple question of yes or no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Simple questions need not be simple to answer. I'm not sure about the features of the Finalgrom. The gromemu type is the most flexible one; if its banking scheme suffices to cover the Finalgrom, yes, if not, no. The scheme is described at the linked location in my posting above. I don't have a type "finalgrom" in MAME. From that point you might judge the finalgrom is not supported, but it could well be that a program stored on the finalgrom just works perfectly with the gromemu or some other type. I seem to remember that some feature of the finalgrom is not supported yet, while the others are supported, so that is why the type is not included explicitly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 4 hours ago, .mad. said: Thanks!, the above RPK file doesn't work for me. it starts up with a garbled screen. Works well for me. There is something else wrong with your configuration. I suppose you are using a sufficiently recent MAME? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.mad. Posted December 10, 2022 Author Share Posted December 10, 2022 9 hours ago, mizapf said: Works well for me. There is something else wrong with your configuration. I suppose you are using a sufficiently recent MAME? Thankyou everyone, for all your help and info. i am using a custom (texas only) build of 220 for x86. i will rebuild with latest source code... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 We have pre-builds on our server, ftp.whtech.com. See the links in the MAME thread. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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