johannesmutlu Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 In general many peoples will think that nintendo’s game & watch series from the 1980’s were the first single lcd game handheld systems ever made and that it inspired other companies such as tiger electronics,bandai,epoh among others to do the same thing,BUT as it turns out,it was mattel’s computer gim electronics handheld to be becamr the first single lcd game handheld ever,from 1979,thus predating nintendo’s first game & watch handheld from 1980 by month’s,wich is something remarkible since gompei yokoi (good spelling this time phew) was watching a boring business man during a train trip,who was playing with his calculator to kill some time with it,this brought gompei yokoi to the idea of using such technology for making games with it and so he eventually came up with the game & watch wich became a huge success,BUT as it turns out,it was NOT gompei yokoi coming with such ingenious idea (as what that story would many do believe) but mattel itself,and so with that said,am actually surprised that gompei yokoi never cought wind of mateel’s computer gim electronics handheld instead and just tout to redefine that concept futher and compeat against mattel instead that way, sure there were already single led and VFD based handheld games in the 70’s and yes there was the MB microvision wich was a cartride based lcd screen handheld (and yes there were also mechanical gaming handhelds back then),BUT mattel’s computer gim electronics handheld (weird name isn’t it) became the first single game lcd handheld,and whether that handheld was a success or not,it clearly deserves it’s place in histrory,if only that handheld was called ‘computer card game’ instead because that would,ve make more sense i guess, HOWEVER what i do found very interesting is that eventrough gompei yokoi did inspired his game & watch series from a calculator from a bored business man,BUT casio did eventually came up back in 1982 with a calculator with a builtin game called invaders in wich you have to kill incoming numbers by matching them and you will only have 3 lives,and whether it was primitive or not,i would be not surprised if casio took inspiration of the successful game & watch series to make such game for it’s calculators and in such case we are full circle🙏😁👍 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/351091-nintendo%E2%80%99s-game-watch-not-the-first-single-lcd-game-handheldbecause/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots.genoa Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 52 minutes ago, johannesmutlu said: gompei yokoi (good spelling this time phew) No, it's Gunpei Yokoi. 🙂 Btw, you do realize than even if you manage to change your username, everyone will be able to identify you in three seconds? 😅 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/351091-nintendo%E2%80%99s-game-watch-not-the-first-single-lcd-game-handheldbecause/#findComment-5251922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
johannesmutlu Posted May 9, 2023 Author Share Posted May 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, roots.genoa said: No, it's Gunpei Yokoi. 🙂 Btw, you do realize than even if you manage to change your username, everyone will be able to identify you in three seconds? 😅 Well that depends on what you’re writing,for instance if i use an old account and writting a comment with lot’s of spelling issues and you’re the only one doing that, but if you will use a new account ,write a comment with still all those spelling issues in it,well yeah then it is not so hard to know that you are the same person who use a different account previously, it also depends on wich subject you do respond with your previous account and your current one,BUT still trough, i rather will have a new account to feel myself more confident with it🤣 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/351091-nintendo%E2%80%99s-game-watch-not-the-first-single-lcd-game-handheldbecause/#findComment-5251936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayler Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 I'm amdazed that this topic was made to the correct forum. Also, there's so many descriptions for gim but none that has anything to do with a handheld console. I liked this one the best: Gim: Describes someone that is really creative, joyful, friendly, sociable, intelligent, and laid back. J-Mu, if you decide to change your name, here are a few suggestions: -ultumsennahoj -Droll Man (it's cool, sounds like a Mega Man boss, you'll get the Confusion Ray from it) -Thirst-4-First -tout machine 2000 These are free to use, but I'm gonna have to charge commission for any new ones. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/351091-nintendo%E2%80%99s-game-watch-not-the-first-single-lcd-game-handheldbecause/#findComment-5251952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 At least it wasn't spelled Gumby Yucky. Seriously though, again...why? You're not actually contributing to an argument that is under debate. Microvision was the first cartridge based handheld, that's that, and that was 1979 (10years before Gameboy.) Game & Watch I believe was the first segmented LCD game in 1980 to display active gaming, not a basic display of a static image (like that Gin game). Though your Gin says 1979 in the images so who knows for sure as this stuff is poorly documented that far back as often copyright dates don't align with store dates. Yet before Microvision Mattel was also doing red LED games with Hockey, Soccer 1+2, Baseball, etc. Not little dedicated tiny red lights, but actual little let up LED singular diodes, and those you used an array of arrows to direct and a button or two to do stuff based on the game. So even your first handheld argument sucks, you dismissed something that came out in 1976-77 another 2-3 years earlier. Casio had nothing to do with game and watch inspiration to do a calculator. They had been around for a few years going back into the 1970s predating even the handheld hockey etc from mattel. They were these little red lit up designs, almost like an old vacuum tube retro display analog clock (google it.) They work nice in shade, suck under direct or worse sunlight. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/351091-nintendo%E2%80%99s-game-watch-not-the-first-single-lcd-game-handheldbecause/#findComment-5251956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayler Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, Tanooki said: They work nice in shade, suck under direct or worse sunlight. I had a nice chuckle at this, at the thought of what kind of sunlight would be worse than the direct kind. Until a grim realization dawned on me. You are in for a rough time if the sunlight is curved or bent when it reaches you because there likely is a black hole somewhere close. Well played @Tanooki, well played. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/351091-nintendo%E2%80%99s-game-watch-not-the-first-single-lcd-game-handheldbecause/#findComment-5251965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
johannesmutlu Posted May 9, 2023 Author Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Tanooki said: At least it wasn't spelled Gumby Yucky. Seriously though, again...why? You're not actually contributing to an argument that is under debate. Microvision was the first cartridge based handheld, that's that, and that was 1979 (10years before Gameboy.) Game & Watch I believe was the first segmented LCD game in 1980 to display active gaming, not a basic display of a static image (like that Gin game). Though your Gin says 1979 in the images so who knows for sure as this stuff is poorly documented that far back as often copyright dates don't align with store dates. Yet before Microvision Mattel was also doing red LED games with Hockey, Soccer 1+2, Baseball, etc. Not little dedicated tiny red lights, but actual little let up LED singular diodes, and those you used an array of arrows to direct and a button or two to do stuff based on the game. So even your first handheld argument sucks, you dismissed something that came out in 1976-77 another 2-3 years earlier. Casio had nothing to do with game and watch inspiration to do a calculator. They had been around for a few years going back into the 1970s predating even the handheld hockey etc from mattel. They were these little red lit up designs, almost like an old vacuum tube retro display analog clock (google it.) They work nice in shade, suck under direct or worse sunlight. Well i already did mention in de topic that before that single lcd game from 1979,there were already led amd fvd handheld games and yes i did mention the microvision being the first cartride based lcd handheld system and yes i did already mention about it in my gameboy topic being aware that it predates the gameboy by 10 years,but still,,, now what if the game & watch games from nintendo were the first onces using sigmented and/or animated lcd screens for it’s games,then nintendo could,ve put a pattent on it sothat other companies such as tiger toys,epoh and bandai etc,, couldn’t came up with their handheld systems based on such technology or atleast not for 25 years,but i geuss it they may couldn’t put a pattent on it sinch it was probably based on those calculator lcd screens,but again am not sure about that. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/351091-nintendo%E2%80%99s-game-watch-not-the-first-single-lcd-game-handheldbecause/#findComment-5252026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
johannesmutlu Posted May 9, 2023 Author Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Wayler said: I had a nice chuckle at this, at the thought of what kind of sunlight would be worse than the direct kind. Until a grim realization dawned on me. You are in for a rough time if the sunlight is curved or bent when it reaches you because there likely is a black hole somewhere close. Well played @Tanooki, well played. Hohoho hahaha very droll very droll🥲🙁 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/351091-nintendo%E2%80%99s-game-watch-not-the-first-single-lcd-game-handheldbecause/#findComment-5252028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
johannesmutlu Posted May 9, 2023 Author Share Posted May 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Wayler said: I'm amdazed that this topic was made to the correct forum. Also, there's so many descriptions for gim but none that has anything to do with a handheld console. I liked this one the best: Gim: Describes someone that is really creative, joyful, friendly, sociable, intelligent, and laid back. J-Mu, if you decide to change your name, here are a few suggestions: -ultumsennahoj -Droll Man (it's cool, sounds like a Mega Man boss, you'll get the Confusion Ray from it) -Thirst-4-First -tout machine 2000 These are free to use, but I'm gonna have to charge commission for any new ones. Does it really matter whether a topic will be put into general chat or general discusion category? personally i wish there were more categories in wich i could choose from such as portible handhelds like the gameboy,sega gamegear etc,,, but the category is limited so i cannot always put a subject to the category i feel like to want it there,so i guess that in such case the category generat discusions is the only way to go🙁🙁 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/351091-nintendo%E2%80%99s-game-watch-not-the-first-single-lcd-game-handheldbecause/#findComment-5252031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
johannesmutlu Posted May 9, 2023 Author Share Posted May 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Wayler said: I'm amdazed that this topic was made to the correct forum. Also, there's so many descriptions for gim but none that has anything to do with a handheld console. I liked this one the best: Gim: Describes someone that is really creative, joyful, friendly, sociable, intelligent, and laid back. J-Mu, if you decide to change your name, here are a few suggestions: -ultumsennahoj -Droll Man (it's cool, sounds like a Mega Man boss, you'll get the Confusion Ray from it) -Thirst-4-First -tout machine 2000 These are free to use, but I'm gonna have to charge commission for any new ones. Wow ,annout that mention about the meaning of gim,that’s an interesting note👍 now if only that mattel lcd handheld game was called ‘computer gim card game’ instead,it would,ve be perfect. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/351091-nintendo%E2%80%99s-game-watch-not-the-first-single-lcd-game-handheldbecause/#findComment-5252104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 2 hours ago, johannesmutlu said: Hohoho hahaha very droll very droll🥲🙁 Hey stop that. That was legible, and had no abuse of the comma. 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/351091-nintendo%E2%80%99s-game-watch-not-the-first-single-lcd-game-handheldbecause/#findComment-5252149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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