Sealed Jaguar Full Set

[Senamental]

I’m just going for the games right now but thanks for sealed pro controller offer. I think some of these titles will be next to impossible but I’m gonna give it a shot 

[Machine]

13 hours ago, joeatari1 said:

One sealed and one open for me.  The boxes were never shrink wrapped were they?  I am only aware that the controller had a bag over it.  Was that even tied off with a wire tie?

 I have seen a few for sale that are shrink-wrapped. Mine is a well. I can not tell ya if they were like that new or not. I assumed they were, but I am not an expert.

 

[Songbird]

On 11/17/2023 at 6:08 AM, sirlynxalot said:

That's very interesting and I didn't know that.  I vaguely remember when telegames released Raiden for lynx several years after I had ever seen a lynx for sale in stores, and thought it was a mail order only item.  Were they sold at mainstream chain shops such as ebx/electronics boutique, babbages, funco land, kb toys, or was it more hole in the wall shops since the Jaguar and lynx were no longer officially supported by that time?

Definitely at EB, as that's where I saw them and pretty sure Telegames advertised that fact too. Not sure if other chains carried them.

[Songbird]

ProController boxes were definitely sealed with shrink-wrap. I still have one I ordered from Atari when they cleared out their warehouse.

 

Aircars was originally shrinkwrapped with the manual functioning as the "cover" for the box since it didn't come with an outer retail box; it only had the white insert for a box.

 

Fun fact: since I assembled the mailing list to show ICD that fans wanted Aircars released, as a reward I got the first two Aircars carts they built and the only ones with serial numbers on them. This was 1-2 years before I started Songbird.

[JaggingUK]

I did full sealed set collecting (many not in that picture) but found most Telegames titles in the UK weren’t sealed when I was getting them from Telegames UK but years later got quite a few of the Telegames titles sealed from USA (might have been Songbird popping a seal on them) these were IS2 and Breakout 2000s etc.… The Atari ones were all sealed with hangtags on them so those to me where the more official ones were the later Telegames titles were never really sold sealed until years later…. To try and collect a fully sealed set now will not be a cheap adventure to start on unlike back in 2015-2018 when I tried to do it - most original Atari titles I have 2 to 5 sealed copies of with the exception of a single sealed Rayman which was the hardest to find and bought from Germany for £160 and AVP which I got two of only as once you got around 2018 that would be on eBay for over £300 ($400) - I got one from Telegames at £90 and one from a guy in Libya who had a gaming shop with loads of sealed Jaguar games and it was £150 - he had stacks of sealed Jaguar games but I can’t remember the name of his shop but it was online… I know some people criticise sealed games collecting but for me I knew eventually something more widely available than a skunkboard would be released allowing me to play all the Jaguar games off an SD Card and all the Roms would be easy to source so I kept them all sealed - in hindsight it was a very wise financial decision to make as those sealed copies of Attack of the Mutant Penguins were £15 each and are now worth significantly more than I paid for them… I do wish you the best of luck if you want to start collecting a full sealed set nowadays but the days of sourcing them all relatively cheaply are probably gone as most of the old stock has been bought up by people like me who nearly ten years ago could not understand why sealed games from a historically relevant gaming brand like Atari were so cheap twenty years after the demise of their final machine.

[+Stephen]

On 11/18/2023 at 9:35 PM, davidcalgary29 said:

Okay, I overstated it: the manual just has some snark ("The End?"), rather than a rant. Still, I wonder what "yucks" Leonard T. gave to the good folks at ICD.

CatboxManual.pdf 356.1 kB · 23 downloads

Interesting.  Some of the codes for Battlesphere seem to reflect this:
Norad Launch Code 2-382587264357-F*CKTRAMIELS

Develop++-536627378257-LEONARDSUCKS

Box Flap Code-328635366273-EATMELEONARD

No Hurt I-522547736453-JACKISSENILE

[+cubanismo]

For people who collect games, sealed or not, is it really a better investment than real estate, gold, stocks, etc.? I know you get eye-popping numbers on certain games or maybe Jaguar CD drives, but certain stocks or metals could claim the same. I'm wondering if anyone has done the math for the overall annualized return of something like a full Jaguar set.

 

If course, if it makes you happy, have at it. I just question the opportunity cost of justifying it as an investment.

 

 

[JaggingUK]

You are right that some games have increased well in value and some not so… Attack of Mutant Penguins, Doom, Missile Command 3D, Defender 2000, Power Drive, AVP all sell for high amounts when they turn up on eBay sealed where others like Chequred Flag, Brutal Sports Football, Iron Soldier, Dragon, Busby maybe cost me £15 to £20.and only sell for £40 to £50 nearly a decade later so I guess some games are more readily available still and maybe the word investment on my behalf wasn’t quite right. To be honest it was also the sheer fun of collecting them all as well and sourcing them from either Peter at Telegames or getting the likes of a box of 6 Pitfalls from USA as that was a cheaper option then maybe selling three of them on eBay UK and the three I had left were basically for free… It was trying to build a collection as cheaply as possible that was the fun too, buying four of a game then selling two and the two you kept were basically free. I wish I could find something new to collect nowadays that would be as enjoyable as the Jaguar games were to collect but don’t think I will as the inherited love for the Atari brand from my 2600 days through to the Jaguar days can’t easily be replicated across to anything else - only maybe Tron and I collected all of that stuff over 20 years ago.

[Havok69]

Save money - buy them opened and then seal them yourself!

 

https://www.amazon.ca/Packagaing-Giftware-Candles-Homemade-Projects/dp/B085DQ4GDP/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=shrink+wrap&sr=8-9

 

[jhd]

On 12/8/2023 at 6:19 PM, cubanismo said:

For people who collect games, sealed or not, is it really a better investment than real estate, gold, stocks, etc.? I know you get eye-popping numbers on certain games or maybe Jaguar CD drives, but certain stocks or metals could claim the same. I'm wondering if anyone has done the math for the overall annualized return of something like a full Jaguar set.

 

Actually it would be interesting to see these numbers for video game collections more broadly. How do they perform as an investment overall?

 

One factor to be considered is liquidity. It is very easy to sell stocks quickly. Doing so with collectables (of any sort) is much harder if you want to realise the best price.

 

My Father had a large collection of coins. He needed to sell the collection to help finance a move. Selling the coins individually would have increased his return, but that would take far too long. He sold the whole lot at a significant discount from book value. This was a very illiquid asset.  

 

 

[doctorclu]

Get games in mint looking boxes (hard enough right there), get them shrink wrapped for protection.  Done!

[82-T/A]

On 11/13/2023 at 11:36 PM, Senamental said:

I started a sealed Jaguar set(North America/official release in the life of the system) about a year ago with 10 games and thought ..ah screw it.. there are other things I'd rather collect.  But the awful idea has returned and the last few weeks I've started up again and I'm going to commit to it.  Will it be impossible?  Aircars, Iron Soldier 2, Worms and Rayman seem very difficult.  Any words of wisdom?  For what its worth, I'm a pretty modest collector and more of a gamer.  I've never gone for a full set.  Just seems like fun and the time to do it while Jaguar product is still out there.

 

Let me be totally honest with you.

 

About 2 years ago, I actually HAD every single Jaguar game... every single ones including all the legitimate Homebrews, and even some of the half-assed homebrews, and even all of the random burned CDs that people put out now and then. I had every device, everything. The ONLY things I didn't have was Gorf 2000, a VR headset, and Lights Out. I ended up getting a bootleg copy of Lights Out! on Etsy, and a bootleg copy of Battlesphere Gold. Both looked and played as though they were the actual copy. But (appropriately) they said in small print below, "REPRODUCTION."

 

Keep in mind, I had ALL of these in the box... ALL of them. I had everything from @Songbird (even doubles in some cases where I bought "sets"), everything from @Orion_, everything from @PikoInteractive, everything from @Remo_Williams, like... absolutely everything.

 

 

So here I sat... it's 2020... I'm getting ready to move to another state for work, and I realized I had several boxes of Atari Jaguar stuff... I mean, TONS of stuff. Everything from a Jaguar banner, to pins, to shirts, to whatever. I'm not the kind of person that normally displays that stuff because I entertain a lot and my friends aren't really video game people. I came to realize that with all of these games, I never really played them. There were several of the games that I did actually really like, and I wanted to play those... but with all of this stuff I was collecting, it became a frustration for me and I never got around to even playing those games. So I decided to get rid of everything.

 

Long story short, I sold about 2/3rds to 3/4ths of all of my Atari Jaguar stuff on eBay. I can't really account for cost, but I made about $23 thousand dollars on everything.

 

You can read about everything here:

 

 

In the end... I have 33 games... which includes everything from Another World (I decided not to sell that one), to Defender 2000, to DOOM / Wolf 3D, to Impulse-X, Badlands, Downfall+... you name it. And these are all the games I actually, really, really like... and actually play.

 

$23k is what you can expect from everything I sold in that link during a good economy... when you already own it. OR... that's what you can expect to pay if you want to BUY it. This is what these games are going for. Keep that in mind. Is it worth it? What feeling will you get if / when you've collected all of them? You'll likely sit there and think... ok, what next? You could have saved that money...

 

What I WILL say though. It was NEVER a bad move to buy quality homebrews and re-releases. For a short while, I was buying two of everything so I could have one in the box and one that I played. I started to feel bad about this when I realized what the prices for these games were going for and people who wanted them couldn't get them, so I only ended up buying one. But just so you know, games that I typically paid ~$54 for, I ended up selling for $300-$500 on eBay. Like... all of the games that @Remo_Williams released... Atari ST ports... I bought every single one. I ended up keeping about 1/3rd of them to be clear, but when I purged... there were two or three people who were buying these games and paid over $500 per game in one case... which is mind-blowing. So... you'll ALWAYS, ALWAYS get your money back by supporting these homebrew developers.

 

I just recommend that you buy what you're interested in, and don't be fearful about buying the newest games that come out. But I really, really do not recommend trying to go back and buy all the games out there unless you really want to play them.